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Porrohman 23rd June 2013 01:47


A motorway link from the M8 has been mooted many times
I can't see such a link being much help. If it were to be built, then during busy periods, the M8 in that area would end up being grid-locked even more often than at present. Outside peak periods, there's not much delay going via the A8 to the City Bypass / M8. IMHO there are many more deserving uses for scarce public finances than building a direct link between the M8 and Edinburgh airport.

Sionnach 23rd June 2013 11:17

Citylink bus
 
The new citylink bus will take very few pax away from GLA, it may actually take more away from PIK!

EDI has the problem that Glasgow's wealthy tend in the majority live on the west of the city where GLA is much more convenient i.e. Milngavie, Bearsden, Helensburgh, Giffnock & Newton Mearns. GLA problem was the Kingston bridge which in part has been solved! The problem for both EDI & GLA is the M8/A8.

I've read this forum as someone who live's in GLA and works at EDI & I'm disgusted by the petty my airport is better than yours arguments!

EDI has developed a mix of Full Service Euro KL/AF/LH, LCC in U2/LS and ULCC in FR plus the United & freight so the airport is profitable.
GLA has developed smaller Full Service Euro with only really KL, but has developed it's North American & ME routes with US/UA/VS/Air Transat plus of course EK. It also has LCC in U2/LS and of course charter with TCX/TOM. It doesn't do much with freight but has it BAMG & RR. So it's profitable. Do we really want them to destroy each other. Is it so hard for people from EDI to go to GLA to fly to DXB or from GLA to go to EDI to fly to FRA.

So whoever gets Eithad or Air China well done support the route, as I'm example the airports support the economy in both cities.

farci 23rd June 2013 12:10


A motorway link from the M8 has been mooted many times
as has the now abandoned Edinburgh Airport Rail Link. EARL is the obvious solution for direct access for passengers from across the Central Belt.

But it appears Scottish Govt transport policy accountants are down the back of the couch looking for more bawbees to pay for existing rail improvements never mind the obvious ones like this.

New unnecessary bridges and Commonwealth Games to pay for, don'cha know!

Joe Curry 23rd June 2013 12:58


IMHO there are many more deserving uses for scarce public finances than building a direct link between the M8 and Edinburgh airport.
Certainly scarce where Scotland's east coast is concerned. BAA to their credit
wanted to build an access road from the City bypass at Gogar, direct to the airport. Seems where Edinburgh Airport is concerned even private funded
projects are turned down. If you look at the EDI master plan diagrams, there is a link envisaged from the A8 just east of Ratho Station, will that too
bite the serial Edinburgh Airport transport access dust.?

As for funding, it seems no expense is being spared for a 2 week sporting event in Glasgow. An event that will be under-sold ticket-wise by the Edinburgh Festival. Funding it seems is only scarce in the east of Scotland.
(Rant over)

Joe Curry 23rd June 2013 13:03


EARL is the obvious solution for direct access for passengers from across the Central Belt.
As was the promised EARL replacement, The Dalmeny Chord. And it looks
suspiciously like the Edinburgh Gateway station at Gogar, is being either abandoned or scaled done. EARL btw would have given direct access from all over Scotland and the North of England.

VickersVicount 23rd June 2013 17:19

I am not sure you have basis for any of that. Perhaps you should spare us any more of your "rants". Perhaps you should remind us of the Edinburgh Commonwealth debacle.
Just for the record Joe, are you hoping the 2014 Commonwealth Games are a success for Glasgow ?

Joe Curry 23rd June 2013 17:46

Hoping the CG are a success for Scotland? Yes... it's Scotland's taxpayers who are paying the bills.

Joe Curry 23rd June 2013 17:51


EDI has the problem that Glasgow's wealthy tend in the majority live on the west of the city where GLA is much more convenient
I would imagine public transport to EDI is the least concern of Glasgow's wealthy.? Think of the millions of visitors who fly annually into EDI, they will be the main beneficiaries of direct public transport into Glasgow City.

edinv 23rd June 2013 18:02

Games airport spin-off (1970 version!)
 
Keeping on the Commonwealth Games theme, the then BoT as airport owners in those days installed RADAR at EDI in time for the 1970 commonwealth Games. From Hansard:- 'It is planned to have the radar in operation before the Commonwealth Games begin on 15th July, 1970.'

LFT 23rd June 2013 18:09

"Think of the millions of visitors who fly annually into EDI, they will be the main beneficiaries of direct public transport into Glasgow City."

So, to paraphrase you -

".....highlighting their need to ponce West Coasters to fill their
empty seats.?"

And as for Emirates, yield is the factor here, and yield they'll get from Scotland's only true 1st Class operation.

Skipness One Echo 23rd June 2013 18:36


Yes... it's Scotland's taxpayers who are paying the bills.
Actually it's the British taxpayer I think you'll find.
Is the airport planning anything special for the launch of Air Canada Rouge?

farci 24th June 2013 10:14


Quote:
Yes... it's Scotland's taxpayers who are paying the bills.
Actually it's the British taxpayer I think you'll find.
Och! I like a good punch-up. Round 1:ok:

Joe Curry 24th June 2013 17:46


".....highlighting their need to ponce West Coasters to fill their
empty seats.?"
Where in this relevant forum did I say that?

Joe Curry 24th June 2013 17:50


Is the airport planning anything special for the launch of Air Canada Rouge?
Water Cannons? A knees-up in a local hostelry?

VickersVicount 24th June 2013 20:35

how many weeks is it actually operating..they might be as well to save it for next year ;)

Skipness One Echo 24th June 2013 22:00


how many weeks is it actually operating..they might be as well to save it for next year
Traditional high season Canadian travel, school holidays plus a few weeks was the usual. Good luck to them :)

Exasperated 24th June 2013 22:42


how many weeks is it actually operating..they might be as well to save it for next year
The service will operate three times a week from July 3 until October 18

That makes just under 15 weeks

Ex

GrahamK 24th June 2013 22:45

Believe it restarts in May next year

figgi_gsm 25th June 2013 19:36

Next WED will have 3, (maybe 4 if theres delays) 767 on the ground at one time.

Air Canada Rouge
Thomson Airways
Mearsk Cargo (Star Air)
Maybe British Airways if the Thomson is delayed around 10 mins and the BA is on time.

VickersVicount 25th June 2013 21:29

...how will EDI ever cope :hmm:


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