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Bartek 1st June 2012 18:24

Dewar with a good deal more freedom to take the kinds of decisions he was evidently not at liberty to take when he was under BAA's thumb (see his very revealing quotes on the matter in the article). Sounds like a new era to me.

Joe Curry 3rd June 2012 07:34

Etihad rumoured again
 
High-end travel firm launched amid talk of Etihad link to Edinburgh - Management - Scotsman.com

OntimeexceptACARS 11th June 2012 21:55

Air France at EDI
 
Heard that AFR mainline have been subbing, using A319s, on the evning AF5052/3 service at EDI due to strike action at Cityjet. Anyone know what the dispute is about?

Joe Curry 12th June 2012 08:03

More route announcements

Edinburgh Airport:New Poland and North Africa Routes

CabinCrewe 12th June 2012 15:49

Weren't some of these announced ages ago ? I seem to remember being able to book SSH from EDI in the past, so im not sure its officially a "new route".

airhumberside 12th June 2012 15:59

Thomson dropped EDI-SSH following last year's uprising, and are re-instating it next year

Joe Curry 5th July 2012 11:36

Another airport rail link hits the buffers.
 
Key rail link hits the buffers after £1bn budget cut - News - Scotsman.com

Porrohman 6th July 2012 09:44

This is disappointing but there have had to be cutbacks in most public sector budgets so it's not surprising that EGIP has had to be scaled back too given the economic problems the country is currently suffering from.

The original plans for EGIP were perhaps over-ambitious in some respects. Four trains an hour between Edinburgh and Glasgow should be more than enough. The six trains per hour became necessary because of the restricted platform length at Glasgow Queen Street. The redesign of Glasgow Queen Street will allow longer trains so the increase in passenger numbers can now be accommodated by longer trains rather than more frequent ones. This, together with a 10 minute reduction in journey time (instead of a 15 minute reduction) substantially reduces the need for many other infrastructure changes along the route.

Although the Dalmeny chord that would have allowed trains from the west to access Edinburgh Gateway station, a cheaper solution is to stop some Edinburgh - Glasgow trains at Edinburgh Park which also has a tram link to the airport.

The extra £300m would have;
  • Saved 15 minutes off the journey time between the cities rather than 10 minutes.
  • Provided a train every ten minutes instead of every 15.
  • Dropped passengers from the west at Edinburgh Gateway instead of Edinburgh Park.
  • Electrified the routes to Dunblane and Alloa.
Given the budget cutbacks that have been imposed across the UK, it's necessary to make difficult choices and I can see the logic behind scaling back EGIP to avoid deeper cuts elsewhere. There is still scope to add the other improvements at a future date.

Joe Curry 7th July 2012 11:25

Edinburgh Airport has lost 3 major surface access projects since devolution, firstly the Barnton bypass, then EARL and now the Dalmeny Chord. These projects would have been delivered by the UK government if transport and railways had not been devolved. Transport priorities in Scotland have skewed toward tribal rather than logical?

SWBKCB 7th July 2012 13:10

Don't really know enough about Scottish politics to comment, but somewhat surprised that EDI had three major projects to lose in the first place - it's not exactly stuck in the middle of nowhere!

Joe Curry 7th July 2012 13:39


it's not exactly stuck in the middle of nowhere!
Conspiracy theories abound..would you believe the single carriageway access road has remained - apart from a few small roundabouts leading to car parks - unaltered, since the terminal was moved from the old Turnhouse
location well over 3 decades ago?

CabinCrewe 7th July 2012 16:05

Conspiracy theories....
Yawn.:rolleyes: The roads and roundabouts work fine when compared to similar, that is why they have been unchanged.

Joe Curry 7th July 2012 17:50

Cabin Crewe..

Airport suitors told to drive forward access road revamp - Edinburgh - Scotsman.com

He who yawns widest? :ok:

edi_local 8th July 2012 14:24


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 7283189)
Conspiracy theories....
Yawn.:rolleyes: The roads and roundabouts work fine when compared to similar, that is why they have been unchanged.

I highly object to that statement.

The access roads to EDI are horrendous at the best of times. I worked at EDI up until a few months ago and even on an average day (no highland show, no big even in central Edinburgh, no pandas, no road accidents) one could expect traffic to slow to a crawling pace and a journey time of 20 minutes to get from the long stay car park to the newbridge roundabout was not unheard of in some cases. The access to EDI is decades behind the traffic levels and something should have been done about it ages ago. Having separate, dedicated access to/from the M8 for the airport and a separate road for the showground is just one thing that they should have built by now.

Damian O'Leary 8th July 2012 14:34

Quite correct, edi_local. Unfortunately talk of investing in EDI often causes some commentators, invariably from certain geographic biases, to froth at the mouth in indignation. :rolleyes:

The good news is that rail access to EDI will still be possible from Edinburgh itself, plus Fife, Dundee, Perth, Aberdeen and Inverness, so the Gateway Station is not a wasted project. Access from West Lothian, Falkirk, Stirling, Glasgow is still possible via Edinburgh Park station, which will be connected to the tram network.

The recent tail-backs and chaos during the Royal Highland Show demonstrated how EDI's surface access strategy really does need to be urgently re-examined. It's simply not good enough for an airport of EDI's size and growing stature. Hopefully GIP will co-operate with the authorities as far as possible to rectify the situation.

LFT 8th July 2012 15:29

".....dedicated access to/from the M8 for the airport......."

It's a mile or thereabouts from the M8 to the roundabout at the Hilton, if GIP want an access let them pay for it, not the long suffering Scottish Taxpayer (EARL,Trams etc).

Damian O'Leary 8th July 2012 15:37

... M74, Commonwealth Games ...?

Point proven, I feel. :ugh:

CabinCrewe 8th July 2012 16:19

Unfortunately talk of investing in EDI often causes some commentators, invariably from certain geographic biases, to froth at the mouth in indignation.
I highly object to that statement. Its odd that these sort of comments are only ever made by the same commentators in this and only this thread. Funny that. The feelings in here of constantly being owed something is nauseating at most.

Damian O'Leary 8th July 2012 16:25

I highly object to that statement. It's odd that objections to suggestions of investment in EDI's infrastructure are only ever made by the same old characters, and only in this thread. The relentless negativity, nay paranoia, displayed by the same old 'contributors' towards EDI is beyond nauseating.

Bartek 8th July 2012 16:33

Time for LFT/Cabin Crewe to kindly put a sock in it, please .... nobody from any other postcode area of the UK seems to object to the idea that Edinburgh International Airport should be better than it currently is, so please dispense with the whingeing and whining.

At the very least EDI needs an access road from the Gogar roundabout. Ideally something to connect it to the Forth Bridge too. Only befitting the nation's premier international gateway, indeed.


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