nobody at the moment, but EOS or MaxJet once weekly would be good for the local businesses in the area, JPMorgan could support a twice weekly flight alone!

Hi,

The digging opposite the entrance is not a new car park, its New Milton sand and Ballast getting gravel!

Does anyone know when Bournemouth is intending on publishing its Master Plan?

Flights now on sale,looks like flights start on 17 Dec.Times are:

PAD-BOH 0700 0720
BOH-PAD 0805 1030

TUE/THU/SAT

There where three guys looking at the Junction yesterday
the queue to exit the road ran back upto the terminal.

A roundabout is definatley required there. Also that piece of road doesn't appear to have any speed limit signs along it's whole length, making many drivers assume it's a national speed limit road. Does anyone actually know what the limit is along there? There's no sign at the beginning at the Hurn roundabout or at the other end at the APW roundabout. :confused:

T

It appear that Air Berlin are stopping flights at the end of October to sutton and yet they dont start the BOH til mid december??
The speed limit is a 50 along that road, the signs are just before the roundabout before the turn off to the Aviation Park.

Traffic lights would probably be better that a roundabout.

There is no speed limit on the road. The 30mph limit finishes just after the Hurn roundabout. A 40 limit starts just after the roundabout for the North West Area and West Parley.

I thought the limit on a single carriageway road was 60. I've never seen a 50 sign anywhere. Are they new?

AIR BERLIN AND PADERBORN AIRPORT HAVE ANNOUNCED BOURNEMOUTH FLIGHTS, GOT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE AND STARTING TO PROMOTE IT. WHY HASNT BOURNEMOUTH DONE THE SAME THING. ANYONE WOULD THINK THAT THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT ARE PART-TIME

BOURNEMOUTH WEBSITE HASNT EVEN GOT ANYTHING LISTED ABOUT WINTER FLIGHTS LET ALONE SUMMER 2006 DETAILS. WHATS GOING ON BOURNEMOUTH? IF YOU WANT TO GROW THEN MAKE SURE YOU CAN COPE WITH THE INCREASED WORK LOAD!

Bournemouth is attracting a good level of low cost business now:

Thomsonfly - 2 based aircraft
Ryanair - 3 daily routes
Jet2.com - until end of Oct!
easyJet - 1 daily route from Dec.
Air Berlin - 1 route, 3 weekly from Dec.

Bournemouth can now claim to offer services by Europe's 2 largest low cost airlines and 2 other major players (isn't Air Berlin Europe's 3rd largest?)

I would imagine growth will mainly come at BOH in the coming years, at the expense of SOU in the area.

What is next for Bournemouth?

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryanair launched a whole tranche of new routes - especially given the fact that agreement for expansion seems to have been made at Nottingham and Humberside. Anyone's guess as to where they'd fly though, probably Derry, Nimes, Nantes, Jerez, Poznan and other ridiculous places !!!

Possible airlines that could fit Bournemouth:

Air Southwest - Manchester, Cork, Newcastle
Flyglobespan - Edinburgh
Flybe - Jersey, Guernsey
Helvetic - Zurich
Wizz/Centralwings - Warsaw, Krakow
MaxJet - New York (3 or 4 times weekly)

Charter service - Orlando

Also expansion from existing operators:

easyJet to replace Jet2 on BFS, add Liverpool, Nice, Palma
Ryanair - Milan, Rome, Stockholm, Murcia, Pisa
Thomsonfly - Ibiza, Venice
Air Berlin - Berlin, Munich
Flyniki - Vienna, Salzbrug

BOH surely cant take a flight to new york or orlando, i just cant see the demand!i dont think itl be long before ryanair and easyjet launch new routes.Easyjet to palma wouldnt work with TOM and EAF already on the route though.

Continental does Bristol to New York with a 757 I beleive..

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Also another one for Bournemouth could be Balkan Holidays with a A320 thats operating from Southampton ..

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Re Advertise.
There is No mention of any Easyjet Flights in Bournemouth not easy a orange sign anywhere.

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Yes, CO does do BRS-EWR with a daily 172-seat 757 (started in May this year).

It has had a slowish start with the real problem apparently getting Americans to use it.

Things seem to be picking up with nearly 9,000 using the service in August (if that month had been poor eyebrows would be raised) giving a load factor in the low 80%, and signs for September appear good as well.

BRS has a throughput of 5 million pax annually compared to BOH's approaching 3/4 million, so on the face of things it would seem that BOH would struggle to successfully operate a daily 757.

I'm not sure of BOH's realistic catchment area. BRS is said to have 7 million in its own but there are other airports within and on the fringe of this as well.

Also bear in mind that Greater Bristol is the major economic force for the whole of the government's southwest region, which includes Bournemouth and Poole, so that is another reason to suspect that BOH might struggle even to emulate BRS's relatively modest, but improving, performance on the 'New York' route.

Unless of course there are specific circumstances in Bournemouth and district for
thinking a New York service would work.

Good luck anyway, the more routes the better, so long as they are sustainable.

Slightly off topic but I wasn't aware Ryanair had any deal with Humberside airport? They currently don't operate any services at HUY, not even a DUB.

Where did this info come from if you dont mind me asking?

Am I right to beleive that the the Bristol flight is once a week the demand for weekly would make more sence.

If your talking about the CO flights to BRS it's a daily 757 service. Will be reduced for the winter to 4 or 5x weekly I think

Shamrock,
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Possible airlines that could fit Bournemouth:

Air Southwest - Manchester, Cork, Newcastle
-Perhaps, but currently fleet limitations won't allow, routes flown regularly and successfully from SOU

Flyglobespan - Edinburgh
-737 bit big for such a thin route

Flybe - Jersey, Guernsey
-Why? SOU base is only 30 mins drive away, similar catchment area.

Helvetic - Zurich
- Very much a business route, would have to be on a small a/c to work in the week, BACX at SOU dropped the route due low loads. An A320-size a/c would work for a weekly ski service in the winter however.

Wizz/Centralwings - Warsaw, Krakow
-Again, very businessy, small a/c again.

MaxJet - New York (3 or 4 times weekly)
-Maybe once a week on a 757 would be realistic. This would be pricey and LHR has more appeal with more flights and lower fares.

Charter service - Orlando
-In the summer, once a week, definatley.

Also expansion from existing operators:

easyJet to replace Jet2 on BFS, add Liverpool, Nice, Palma
Ryanair - Milan, Rome, Stockholm, Murcia, Pisa
Thomsonfly - Ibiza, Venice
Air Berlin - Berlin, Munich
Flyniki - Vienna, Salzbrug

Let's not forget that to make it worthwhile flying from a local airport, there needs to be the ability to return same day (except on holiday routes). A 737 operator will struggle to fill 4 sectors-worth of pax on these routes.
The main thing airlines look at when opening new routes is
a) Where do the majority of people really want to go?
b) Does it fit our business structure?
c) Will it be profitable using our a/c type, will a day return be necessary?

There are obviously a lot more factors but these are the fundamentals and that's what I have based my replies above on.

Don't think I'm being harsh, I'm just being realistic.

eurostarbuilder

As I said in my above post on this page, the BRS-EWR has been daily since it began last May.

It will go to 5 rotations a week in for the winter period.

The 757 used is configured so that its 172 seats include 16 business/first and the rest (156) economy.

Some days a/c with winglets are used, often not. It was thought the short and high BRS runway (6,600 feet at an elevation of 600 feet) might be a problem. It has not been.

BOH with its longer runway should have no trouble at all.

Why is this topic been moved....