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foundation digger 17th Jun 2003 20:38

All this stuff about the destination Airport is complete rubbish.

Easy for example advertise flights from Newcastle in central scotland.
They obviously think people will travel to use that connection.

For years and to this day people have to travel to airports in the south of England to connect to thier final destination.

There are many factors which dictate why an individual chooses to fly a particular route and operator.


The CEO,s of both BA and Easy are way of the mark when they try to score points over Ryan over the airports they operate from.

Prestwick the airport nobody wanted. Now handling over 1.5 million pax from all over europe.


At the end of the day it is financial perfomance which matters.

The Low cost tag is Bull Droppings.

It is who manages the best Business.

The 2 recent resignations from Easy are unfortunate as both individuals are two of the more capable individuals in the flight ops department.

no sig 18th Jun 2003 01:45

ezysleazy

I (BB) will speak for myself, thank you. My reasons for going are of a personal nature,I have no doubt that easyJet does have a sound future and where there are problems as, we have discussed so many times on PPRUNE, It's simply the right time for me and not a reflection on my feeling for our future.

Oceanic 18th Jun 2003 02:04

For the first time ever I travelled eJ last week, and without entering into much of the vitriol written here this is an account of the journey......

Arrived Luton early for uneventful check in, proceed to gate, 20 minutes prior to ETD informed of 1 hr delay due 'operational reasons'. 1 hr later further announcement 30 minutes additional delay. Flight left 1hr 45 mins late. We were told on board by CC that delay was due to crewing and that they had not enough personnel to fill the flights. Some had been called out from other bases etc. Otherwise uneventful to Palma.....

Thursday evening return flight. Scheduled 23.50. 20 minutes prior, tannoy announcement of 2 hr delay due 'operational reasons'. Hmm ..... 2 hrs thereafter further announcement of 2 hr delay. No rep of eJ would speak to us and give any reason for the delay. The handling agents were fielding all enquiries of some very irate pax, but with no info could not help much. 40 minutes later a further announcement to say another announcement would be made shortly. 30 minutes later and we were told the inbound aircraft had arrived and would try for a 25 minute turnaround, but due 'operational reasons' we would go to Stansted, not Luton! Eventually left 5hrs 20 mins late to Stansted. Baggage took 45 minutes to come through (no ground agent) , then we were herded onto a bus and a further 1 hr 20 to Luton ( M25 traffic heavy at this time) to arrive 7 hrs after ETA. Apart from the skipper on the flight no apology ever made and it was impossible to actually talk to anyone representing eJ.

As I said it was the first (and last) trip I've made with eJ. With concessions I don't need to go low cost but we were travelling with (elderly) friends, and decided to try it. If this is the way pax are treated I'm not surprised that comments such as those elicited on this forum are provoked.

An amusing caveat is that on arriving home I was called within the hour by an agency looking for contract Captains for 4 months for their Geneva base. My response would probably be suitable only for JetBlast forum!

Woodpidgeon 18th Jun 2003 02:41

Interesting thread. I have a house in Malaga, live in Cheshire and use Ej regularly. A quick look over the last 12 mths reciepts shows an AVERAGE of £44 outbound, £32 inbound, 1 delay, 4 instances of the flight leavin up to 15 mins early. I also travel to London by train. Invariably late, over £100 return and journey time 1hr longer. They really don't do that bad a job, and yes I am a pilot of some 20yrs and seen and done most things in my aviation career, so I ain't too green.

DouglasDigby 18th Jun 2003 03:46

As easyJet isn’t (to the best of my knowledge) a “seasonal” or charter airline (hires in short-term contract cabin crew to cover the summer months), then why have they gone to Airline Appointments for “Urgent requirement for Cabin Crew” (6 month extendable contract)?? Must be REALLY short of crew for the bases listed on the website (LGW, STN & LTN). Still, might save a few of the taxis that go hither & thither to position crew!!:E

Spartacan 18th Jun 2003 04:08

They have advertised in Flight this week for type rated pilots. The ad says that, if you apply in the next 3 months then you can have the base of your choice.

Are they getting desperate? Supply vs demand?

electricblue 18th Jun 2003 04:21

Interesting to see the following additions to the easyjet recruitment website

Crew planning analyst
Crewing manager
Crewing shift managers
Crewing Team managers
Rostering officer
Rostering team manager

Talk about all at once :eek:

In trim 18th Jun 2003 19:33

electricblue,

There has been a change in the management of the whole crewing / rostering and resource-management......for the better, I believe.

The final structure for crewing / rostering appears to have been agreed, hence the sudden wave of positions available.

In trim

apioca 19th Jun 2003 03:34

5185 on monday?
 
As a pax flying EZY5185 LGWAGP on monday, I´m a getting slightly concerned.

will that flight operate at all? and by what equipment?

Jack The Lad 19th Jun 2003 03:38

Whatever happened to Max? You could always rely on him to give you a good laff about Easy. I used to enjoy his sparing with Hamrah. Maybe Max jumped ship too?

Ham moved on and up; maybe Max has too?

Capt.Paul Skinback 19th Jun 2003 04:59

Seems a bit mean that there is an embargo on Base Transfers due to the high workload involved,whilst at same time the Flight advert offers a choice of any Base to new recruits!

pitotheat 19th Jun 2003 05:03

I did n't realise there was an embargo on base changes. when did that come in?

Norman Stanley Fletcher 19th Jun 2003 07:07

All you lads and lasses flying to Malaga - get yourself on the BA website (ba.com) and you will find GB Airways offers great deals from Gatwick and Heathrow. On nearly all occasions when I have compared like with like, GB were cheaper. (I am biased but it is true - plus you get posh seats, more leg room and a meal thrown in!)

Apart from that, what is really the truth at easyJet? I am aware of a number of very experienced FOs and Captains who are looking at easyJet but are being scared off by all this negative PR. Are they about to go down the pan or is this just a little blip in life's rich tapestry? The impression given is that your man RW is so out of touch and unpopular that he has to go. Very similar to the situation that existed at BA with Bob Ayling before his departure. Rod Eddington has turned out to be very popular with the troops who see he is doing a good job in troubled times.

Time will tell, but they certainly will not be able to recruit the experienced pilots they require with publicity like this thread.

Hamrah 19th Jun 2003 07:17

Yes,

What ever happened to Max. I wonder how he'd feel if he learned that I flew a number of easyJet sectors recently ( subbed in!)

H

mischief afoot 19th Jun 2003 07:26

In a previous company I worked for they let a management pilot stay on to work his notice and having been denied access to email he used a fellow management pilot's email to wreak a little havoc - we did laugh ... Of course, presumably nowadays no-one at that level would leave their email unattended on account of the confidential aspects of their job.

MAX 19th Jun 2003 08:22

I wish 'Max' would change his name. Hes giving me a bad rep.:(

MAX:cool:

A different one that is.

stormin norman 19th Jun 2003 13:51

Heard a rumour that Fls (Who happen to do Easys maintenance)
is up for sale and in trouble.If thats so, they really are in the smelly stuff.

khasabman 19th Jun 2003 14:56

Mad Max is alive and well but struck dumb through pressure of work:ok: :ok:

Mad Max 19th Jun 2003 16:54

Still Crazy After All These Years!
 
What-Ho! Chaps, somebody mention my name? Eh?

Ah now, let's see what we have here. A couple of peeps doing the mischief-making, a few other disaffected souls spreading misinformation/scurrilous scuttle-butt along with a balance of replies from the customers. The customer replies range from "I'll never fly with you again", (the daft, cut off my nose to spite my face emotional type), to "great to see EZY giving the consumer the choice they didn't have for the last 30 years!" (much more realistic IMHO).

One of the amusing things about this thread, is that there are some pilots who obviously work for EZY and who whinge about everything to do with the operation of the airline and now they are dripping on about there being so many recent changes! Incredible!? Let's face facts, after the amalgamation of the two airlines, there were bound to be too many people employed to do all the necessary jobs so some would eventually have to go.

In respect of the departure of the two ex RFMs, well this is an interesting one - their positions were made redundant in a cabinet reshuffle which coincided almost exactly with their resignations. The fact that they are going to an airline with no aeroplanes (yet), that is starting up to operate from the HQ base of one of the most successful and aggressive low-cost operators in the world, is a brave move indeed! We wish them well, they are good blokes. The remaining RFM has now been appointed as temporary acting FOM and he's a good bloke too.

It is true that the rostering/crewing depts are undergoing metamorphosis the like of which we have not seen before, but how overdue is that? Thank God somebody considers the whole thing important enough to get the adverts out in Flight Int for some really good hired help to come in. As for giving new entry pilots the base of their choice - well you've gotta put it in perspective. What we do need is plenty of type-rated boys 'n girls and also some DECs. We must get these pilots in so that the expansion may continue and the roster dept can build rosters that work well. 120 plus pilots moved base in the first few months of this year and the majority of new joiners get their first choice of base on arrival, hence the waiting lists for the bases are very small.

Atm EZY are doing CMD Courses with 8 guys per month and shortly these will increase methinks to get the left-hand seats filled - name an airline that is doing more internal Commands?

There are now 70+ lines of flying, sequenced quite closely together and when you look at the Ops Board it is a chuffing miracle that it works at all. Tens of aircraft, hundreds of sectors, thousands of employees and tens of thousands of passengers, nearly all getting to where they want to go ontime and cheaply - amazing! Oh!......and all run from a tin shed at LTN.

No, not "struck dumb" Khasabman thankyou and yes I am still here. I work with some brilliant people on the line and I love every minute of it. We have all "considered our position" over the past few years and if you are unhappy don't stay - move. I'm happy and I'm staying, end of story.

Toodle pip playmates! Max (Zero Fuel Weight) :D :D :D

Celloistic 19th Jun 2003 16:57

I'm not 100% sure but I believed that EZY a/c were maintained by easyTech, which admittedly is a joint venture between FLS and EZY - however, FLS only owns 25% of this venture.

If this is the case then perhaps any matter regarding FLS is less significant?


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