The administration of FBE realisations is extended until 2024. Part of the deal for the sale was that new Flybe would make further contributions to EY depending on profitability
We will never know the potential amounts to be paid because' understandably that is confidential. It's all out in the public domain for pitys sake |
Originally Posted by JobsaGoodun
(Post 11215721)
Sorry but I simply don’t buy the fact that it’s the same staff. The CEO, COO, CCO and CTO are all new into the business. Sure there will be some operational staff who chose to seek new employment with the business but surely that’s no surprise, given the airports served. The board of Flybe is also new.
Old Fltbee was a basket case into which Cyrus Stobart and Virgin pumped £100,000,000 and still mega millions would have been needed to save it |
"Theres no question that the ATR is more economical but its also slower and at a curfewed airport like BHD that makes a difference. "
Really ? |
I really don't understand why some simply can't accept that; a) it was a totally legal buy out of administration, b) it is a new business, and c) because - for some strange reason, they just chose to use the same trading name for the new business. We're not gonna agree on this, an we're entitled to challenge questionable fanboy assertions. Let's see how they do. |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11215893)
Because you can do perfectly legal things which are in many people's views, unethical. For many people, the dishonesty of having it both ways is wrong. Being a "well loved brand returning" and a "whole new airline with no connection to the old"' is bending credulity so far as to break. I find the whole thing dishonest, they consciously chose this path, there were less controversial options. I mean no one really believes Glasgow Rangers FC dates from 2012 although that's the legal position 😉 If flybe2 succeed, the "whole new business" thing will be airbrushed away, however legally accurate it may be.
We're not gonna agree on this, an we're entitled to challenge questionable fanboy assertions. Let's see how they do. Nothing more needs to said on the subject. |
As far as I can see, both Emerald and Flybe are planning four rotations a day on their Belfast-based aircraft (ATRs and Q4s). If flying short routes like Glasgow, both could probably go to five but look to have the common sense with all of the trouble out there on airports and ground handlers not to do so right now!
Apart from some false sense of confidence that pitching a Q4 against a jet on BHD-LHR is a good idea - which I don't think anyone with an ATR would - then I can't see any difference beyond the fact the Q4 is a lot heavier, burns more fuel and only carries six more passengers (if full - which I doubt anyone will be with competition on most routes). |
Originally Posted by Albert Hall
(Post 11215919)
As far as I can see, both Emerald and Flybe are planning four rotations a day on their Belfast-based aircraft (ATRs and Q4s). If flying short routes like Glasgow, both could probably go to five but look to have the common sense with all of the trouble out there on airports and ground handlers not to do so right now!
Apart from some false sense of confidence that pitching a Q4 against a jet on BHD-LHR is a good idea - which I don't think anyone with an ATR would - then I can't see any difference beyond the fact the Q4 is a lot heavier, burns more fuel and only carries six more passengers (if full - which I doubt anyone will be with competition on most routes). |
It's hard to believe this new airline nonsense as it is more or less same crew same management same almost everything. There is just not enough difference for people to believe it is something new or even improved. Back to charging for bags at the gate. But Feddie Laker pulled the same stunt and relaunched Laker but based in US when relaunched
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
(Post 11215987)
It's hard to believe this new airline nonsense as it is more or less same crew same management same almost everything. There is just not enough difference for people to believe it is something new or even improved. Back to charging for bags at the gate. But Feddie Laker pulled the same stunt and relaunched Laker but based in US when relaunched
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
(Post 11215987)
It's hard to believe this new airline nonsense as it is more or less same crew same management same almost everything. There is just not enough difference for people to believe it is something new or even improved. Back to charging for bags at the gate. But Feddie Laker pulled the same stunt and relaunched Laker but based in US when relaunched
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There is one or two thats the same management.
But irrelevant of that, it is the same business model. But smaller and in more challenging times. I do wish it to succeed but the odds are against it. |
Good god this thread is both tedious and depressing!
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stewyb
Good god your statement is tedious and depressing.
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Originally Posted by stewyb
(Post 11216311)
Good god this thread is both tedious and depressing!
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Originally Posted by ZULUBOY
(Post 11216324)
Indeed. So, so tedious
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Maybe there should be a separate thread for people to argue about FlyBe 1 v Flybe 2 and the rest of us can discuss the here and now.
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Originally Posted by tigertanaka
(Post 11216469)
Maybe there should be a separate thread for people to argue about FlyBe 1 v Flybe 2 and the rest of us can discuss the here and now.
I try to fly as little as possible and we would normally take the train from Birmingham to Berlin, however, Eurostar is sold out for the convenient Saturday morning connection to Cologne via Brussels (May half-term weekend) so we're going to fly to Amsterdam and take the train from there. I found the Flybe website very easy to use and the prices were good. Decent flight times too |
That's the Flybe v1 thread.
Can those people go there. https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airp...-flybe-v1.html |
Originally Posted by airsouthwest
(Post 11217412)
It's very sad that the same old people keep nit picking the same old stuff over and over again like Brexit. Just get over yourself, move on and most importantly SHUT UP!
If Flybe had put new cabins like Porter etc they would have been attacked for wasting money or uncomfortable seats, the way I see it they can't win with these idiots. From the inaugural flight it appears to me Flybe are taking this comeback very seriously, most experienced captains, most experienced cabin crew on the very first day shows a serious statement of intent to make this business work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdIX-cPCe-I As for most experienced pilots etc meaning they take it seriously almost any carrier would do that and does do that. BA have a select group of crew just for media flights etc. Did anyone have such low expectations of Flybe2 that they expected something different? However it’s great to see things seem to have gone smoothly so far given the bad coverage other carriers have had in recent days it should certainly help them further. |
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