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Danny54d2 16th Nov 2022 14:29


Originally Posted by toon22 (Post 11331802)
Another good sign. Humberside gains a Thursday rotation from May.Reported elsewhere that NQY-FAO has the highest operating margins of all Ryanair routes to the UK from Faro. Hence the third rotation when the route resumes next summer.

The Humberside route is doubling in frequency from 2x Weekly Seasonally this year to 4x Weekly Seasonally in 2023 (Mon, Thu, Fri & Sun)

cornishsimon 16th Nov 2022 19:36

Could do with LBA and BHX back now but all being told of loganair return the airport is looking pretty well set for summer 23 IMO.

has anyone done a day by day list of what NQY is getting ?


cs

BACsuperVC10 17th Nov 2022 08:08


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 11331993)
Could do with LBA and BHX back now but all being told of loganair return the airport is looking pretty well set for summer 23 IMO.

has anyone done a day by day list of what NQY is getting ?


cs

NQY - LPL is also missing.

GayFriendly 17th Nov 2022 09:15

Interesting news about NQY - EMA. According to the ACL summer 23 slot report , Eastern had applied for daily slots BHX - NQY rumoured with the based ATR but I guess this won't happen now. Shame, it's a long drive from where I live in Warwickshire and the train service is awful. Loads on Flybe were always very good. I really wish BHX - NQY would return but think we've run out of airline options!

globetrotter79 17th Nov 2022 09:29


Originally Posted by GayFriendly (Post 11332251)
I really wish BHX - NQY would return but think we've run out of airline options!

Surely flybe would be the obvious; considering they've now re-established an operation at NQY and have an base at BHX. Even if low frequency, surely they could easily shake out a handful ot BHX-NQY-BHX rotations per week in summer?
You'd think the potential threat of flybe doing just this could be one reason why Eastern went for NQY-EMA iso BHX

cornishsimon 17th Nov 2022 09:46

LPL is a difficult one.

been tried on flybe and easyjet over last few years.

harsh competition to Manchester especially if Logan returns which would see
logan, flybe and flybe operating to MAN, saturdays would see x2 Logan, x1 flybe then daily logan, flybe and easy x5 weekly


cs

BA318 17th Nov 2022 10:00


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 11332274)
LPL is a difficult one.

been tried on flybe and easyjet over last few years.

harsh competition to Manchester especially if Logan returns which would see
logan, flybe and flybe operating to MAN, saturdays would see x2 Logan, x1 flybe then daily logan, flybe and easy x5 weekly


cs

are Loganair returning?

aapeters 17th Nov 2022 10:03

LBA is a no brainer for any airline - still unsure why it remains unserved.

ATNotts 17th Nov 2022 11:22


Originally Posted by globetrotter79 (Post 11332266)
Surely flybe would be the obvious; considering they've now re-established an operation at NQY and have an base at BHX. Even if low frequency, surely they could easily shake out a handful ot BHX-NQY-BHX rotations per week in summer?
You'd think the potential threat of flybe doing just this could be one reason why Eastern went for NQY-EMA iso BHX

I think BHX/NQY by Flybe is very likely, even if only 2/3 days per week.

It has got to be questionable as to whether a daily service between NQY and EMA is really justified. As for going for the full schedule from February? That is surely going to be challenging from a demand standpoint. But I guess Eastern has done their homework.

cornishsimon 17th Nov 2022 11:26


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 11332283)
are Loganair returning?


good question

they still have the routes being sold

cs

Asturias56 17th Nov 2022 11:31

"LBA is a no brainer for any airline - still unsure why it remains unserved."

because they've done their research and realise it's a no-brainer?

BACsuperVC10 17th Nov 2022 11:39


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 11332274)
LPL is a difficult one.

been tried on flybe and easyjet over last few years.

harsh competition to Manchester especially if Logan returns which would see
logan, flybe and flybe operating to MAN, saturdays would see x2 Logan, x1 flybe then daily logan, flybe and easy x5 weekly


cs

Its too much from MAN really, but its the same for LBA to NQY as it is for LPL. Easyjet did LPL-NQY carried over 5K in summer months, so there is a demand.

SWBKCB 17th Nov 2022 11:54


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 11332326)
good question

they still have the routes being sold

cs

Loganair statement when they pulled out for Winter made it quitew clear they would be back in the summer on all routes except Teesside, and as stated above flights are on sale.

aapeters 17th Nov 2022 12:00

Looking at BE at the moment and their questionable decisions/ route operations.. yes they clearly haven't done any homework :)

BA318 18th Nov 2022 09:55

Loganair will restart NQY-MAN from Feb 10th with a daily flight.

BA318 8th Dec 2022 14:03

SAS returning with their CPH service for next year.


toon22 11th Dec 2022 15:55

Unannounced by easyJet: Manchester increases to 6 weekly for S’23 (Full season) including double-daily on Fridays and Sundays. Seventh frequency ops in July and August.

SWBKCB 30th Jan 2023 13:20


Mr Gardner, who is a Newquay councillor as well as council portfolio holder for the economy, said the news was a "real shock to us". However, he added routes to London and to Manchester were still available. He said: "We were hoping Flybe was to increase operations but that's obviously not going to be the case now.
BBC - Flybe: Cornwall flight cancellations 'a real shock', says councillor

Maybe they should have listened to Loganair?


​​​​​​​ “It’s with a heavy heart that we’ve taken the decision to withdraw our entire winter Newquay programme and to curtail our Summer 2023 plans too. Despite all of the challenges that the pandemic has delivered, we’ve worked incredibly hard over the last two years to build up our presence at Cornwall Airport Newquay. We’re most disappointed that short-sighted and short-term decisions by the airport’s management to incentivise unsustainable operations by other airlines leave no prospect of winter flights remaining viable, particularly against a backdrop of high fuel prices and rising inflation".
https://www.loganair.co.uk/our-story...s-this-winter/


TartinTon 30th Jan 2023 21:08

Maybe they should have listened to Loganair?

Quote:
“It’s with a heavy heart that we’ve taken the decision to withdraw our entire winter Newquay programme and to curtail our Summer 2023 plans too. Despite all of the challenges that the pandemic has delivered, we’ve worked incredibly hard over the last two years to build up our presence at Cornwall Airport Newquay. We’re most disappointed that short-sighted and short-term decisions by the airport’s management to incentivise unsustainable operations by other airlines leave no prospect of winter flights remaining viable, particularly against a backdrop of high fuel prices and rising inflation".
https://www.loganair.co.uk/our-story...s-this-winter/

Maybe you shouldn't be so gullible. Hinkles is great at the smoke and mirrors trick of promoting himself as the champion of the regions whilst fleecing customers. Look at the pricing. He gouges customers. He makes a big showboating play of withdrawing services only to quietly sneak back in on MANNQY in Feb well before Flybe went. It should noted that he had previously said he was taking his toys away for the winter but he knows there's a market there year-round. Hinkles and Logan are not your friends. They will fleece you at every available opportuity and bleat and whine whenever they get competition. Enjoy the high prices. It's what you wanted and asked for. Also take a closer look at whenever Hinkles posts on Linkedin. He's a master of the humblebrag and you all fall for it. Get your wallets out boys and girls, it's gonna cost you....

BA318 30th Jan 2023 21:54


Originally Posted by TartinTon (Post 11377032)
Maybe they should have listened to Loganair?

Quote:
“It’s with a heavy heart that we’ve taken the decision to withdraw our entire winter Newquay programme and to curtail our Summer 2023 plans too. Despite all of the challenges that the pandemic has delivered, we’ve worked incredibly hard over the last two years to build up our presence at Cornwall Airport Newquay. We’re most disappointed that short-sighted and short-term decisions by the airport’s management to incentivise unsustainable operations by other airlines leave no prospect of winter flights remaining viable, particularly against a backdrop of high fuel prices and rising inflation".
https://www.loganair.co.uk/our-story...s-this-winter/

Maybe you shouldn't be so gullible. Hinkles is great at the smoke and mirrors trick of promoting himself as the champion of the regions whilst fleecing customers. Look at the pricing. He gouges customers. He makes a big showboating play of withdrawing services only to quietly sneak back in on MANNQY in Feb well before Flybe went. It should noted that he had previously said he was taking his toys away for the winter but he knows there's a market there year-round. Hinkles and Logan are not your friends. They will fleece you at every available opportuity and bleat and whine whenever they get competition. Enjoy the high prices. It's what you wanted and asked for. Also take a closer look at whenever Hinkles posts on Linkedin. He's a master of the humblebrag and you all fall for it. Get your wallets out boys and girls, it's gonna cost you....

But maybe the reality is those higher prices are the only way the routes are sustainable. Flybe tried offering cheap prices and it’s bust.

Is Loganair perfect? No but they are still here and that’s a lot more useful.


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