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D9009 27th Jan 2021 17:39

BAW is the callsign.

TURIN 27th Jan 2021 17:43

Ok, thanks, what happened to 'Speedbird'?

D9009 27th Jan 2021 17:52

It's still "Speedbird" BAW is the IATA code on the flightstrip

TURIN 27th Jan 2021 17:57

Ah, I see, I think. Is this an ATC thing?

D9009 27th Jan 2021 18:39

more of an IATA thing, it can actually confuse ATC eg; MSK used to be "bluestar" (Maersk when operating as a BA franchise)

kcockayne 27th Jan 2021 18:52

Isn’t BAW an ICAO allocation ? & IATA code being BA.

D9009 27th Jan 2021 18:54

yes, sorry I was thinking of airport 3 letter identifiers which are IATA, the callsign is ICAO

Peter47 29th Jan 2021 11:32

For the uninitiated:

IATA (International Air Transport Association) airline codes have two letters (or a number & letter) whilst ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organisation) codes have three letters. BA needed a third letter for its ICAO code so BAW made sense. (BAL was Britannia.)

With airports IATA have three letters & ICAO four. Heathrow for example is LHR & EGLL The pilots on PPrune tend to use ICAO codes & SLFs like me IATA ones but you can always check them on the web.

TURIN 30th Jan 2021 01:01

Thankyou for the explanation.
Just to be clear, when someone uses the expression BAW, it means BA?

Gurnard 30th Jan 2021 07:09

Yes: we understand BAW means British Airways! :ok:

SWBKCB 22nd Feb 2021 19:02


International Airlines Group (IAG) said a loan and deal on deferred pension contributions had boosted BA's liquidity by £2.45bn as the industry burns through cash due to COVID-19 restrictions.

Under the pension scheme agreement, worth £450m, the airline will pay no dividends to IAG before the end of 2023 in return for delaying deficit contributions due between October 2020 and September 2021.
https://news.sky.com/story/british-a...lence-12225535

Ex Cargo Clown 26th Feb 2021 16:27

Bit annoying that. Got the NAPS email and thought to myself "didn't BA take a pension holiday in the '90s".

PAXboy 27th Feb 2021 15:58

All corporations see Pension Plans as optional. The really should be laws about this. Pension is salary.

LGS6753 27th Feb 2021 16:24

Ex Cargo Clown

Lots of companies did. Investments were strong, and pension funds then were not permitted to add to surpluses.

TURIN 27th Feb 2021 17:06

Ex Cargo Clown

APS took the hit on that, not NAPS.

biddedout 28th Feb 2021 21:40

In return for the payment delay, the NAPS trustees appear to have negotiated a charge over the East and West Maintenance areas. No idea what they are worth but it seems like a reasonable thing to do in the current dire circumstances and it will have been negotiated with a lot of legal / covenant advice and possibly with oversight from the Pension Regulator. I cannot see what else they could have done without risking the company.

CabinCrewe 5th Mar 2021 07:41

Accra and Islamabad move to LGW is now off (as is the domestic LGW routes for now). Expect DOH to follow suit and all to remain at LHR

Plastic787 5th Mar 2021 10:53

DOH is a different kettle of fish. I believe this is a OneWorld thing, Qatar will be doing the LHR to DOH on behalf of the alliance and, because Qatar have dropped LGW themselves, BA will thus take up the slack. I stand to be corrected but I believe this is the rationale here.

Vokes55 5th Mar 2021 12:15

Qatar haven’t dropped LGW. Do you check anything you write before posting it?

SWBKCB 5th Mar 2021 16:59

What flights do Qatar operate out of LGW? Can't find any for sale - all come up as BA flts


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