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Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance
(Post 11542228)
Maybe you should let them be the judge of that. For one bad experience with BA comes another good one!
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
(Post 11529150)
They have 3 separate Spanish low cost operator brands and are trying to buy a 4th in Air Europa. What the hell is that about?! Most the new short haul aircraft are going to these low cost operators as well, whilst BA are stuck with 20 year + old Airbus. Don’t expect much from BA anytime soon. As for "don't expect much". I have personally flown 6 sectors on BA, LH and SH all in CLUB, within the last two months. Only one bad experience and that was the food on a return from MCO. The Club cabin on the A350/B787 was superb. The staff were friendly and attentive, I even saw a senior cabin attendent dealing with a very rude and disruptive passenger with patience and professionalism second to none. Personally I would have decked him if he had spoken to me like that! Maybe I'm just lucky. |
Originally Posted by TURIN
(Post 11542872)
Er. I'm pretty sure BA are in receipt of rather a lot of brand new A320/321 NEOs and A350s.
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I work at LHR and over the years I have seen mice in quite a few different areas, it is not really down to BA, BAA own the building and the mice don't care which bit of the terminal is run by BA, World Duty Free, Prada or Costa Coffee If they are in one area, they will be everywhere.
Not saying its right but short of hermetically sealing the lounge there is little BA can do about it, anywhere that food is being served will be a magnet for a rodent. |
Originally Posted by Max Angle
(Post 11542999)
I work at LHR and over the years I have seen mice in quite a few different areas, it is not really down to BA, BAA own the building and the mice don't care which bit of the terminal is run by BA, World Duty Free, Prada or Costa Coffee If they are in one area, they will be everywhere.
I'm not saying it's right, but short of hermetically sealing the lounge there is little BA can do about it, anywhere that food is being served will be a magnet for a rodent. BAA Limited no longer exists as they officially changed their name on the 15 October 2012 to Heathrow Airport Holdings Limited. |
Originally Posted by pabely
(Post 11542921)
Quite easy to find pichures of brand new build Airbuses at Hamburg XFW nearing completion, seems a waste of money to paint in BA colours then send to Spain!
http://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/british-airways-to-gain-new-long-haul-aircraft https://simpleflying.com/british-airways-aircraft-on-order/#:~:text=British%20Airways%20has%2028%20planes,10%20x%20Boei ng%20787%2D10s |
I will let you all know post experience if that is ok. May I point out that apart from Tax, this is a free flight so just an observation on the experience as we both could have flown with EK on the same.basis , geography and work makes it work.
Cheers Mr Mac |
I was having a look at Flight radar for my wife’s trip tomorrow on my way to Germany last night, and it was quite surprising to see that it is very rarely on time varying between 20 min and 5.5hrs !
Can I ask if those regular users of BA and LHR if that is standard for BA there as it’s a pretty lamentable performance at your Hub airport. Cheers Mr Mac |
Originally Posted by Mr Mac
(Post 11548655)
I was having a look at Flight radar for my wife’s trip tomorrow on my way to Germany last night, and it was quite surprising to see that it is very rarely on time varying between 20 min and 5.5hrs !
Can I ask if those regular users of BA and LHR if that is standard for BA there as it’s a pretty lamentable performance at your Hub airport. The difference between the two - i.e. pushback and taxy - can easily exceed 20 minutes at an airport like LHR. |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 11548857)
It's a fundamental misconception that FlightRadar24's history shows departure times. It doesn't - it shows takeoff times.
The difference between the two - i.e. pushback and taxy - can easily exceed 20 minutes at an airport like LHR. |
Originally Posted by andymartin
(Post 11549183)
How does that answer the question?!
Just picking a random example, BA219 LHR-DEN today is shown as 1225 scheduled departure, 1243 acutal on FR24. But the scheduled departure time is the time the aircraft is expected to leave the gate, whereas FR24 is showing the airborne time. The actual departure time according to BA.com was 1218. So you see the discrepancy. A flight scheduled to leave at 1225 leaves 7 minutes early at 1218, but is misreported by FR24 as leaving 18 minutes late. And the same thing applies to arrivals in reverse. FR24 shows landing time not arrival at the gate. I was recently on a BA flight that landed 20 minutes early but due to delays on the ground finally arrived on stand 10 minutes late. So the actual arrival was delayed by 10 minutes, whereas FR24 would wrongly report it as 20 minutes early. |
FR24 isn't wrong, it's just using a different method. It's a flight tracking site, not a record of airline punctuality.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11549418)
FR24 isn't wrong, it's just using a different method. It's a flight tracking site, not a record of airline punctuality.
Originally Posted by Lordflasheart
(Post 11549472)
Does OOOI answer the question ?
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By BA's own admission, 75% of its delays are caused by its own internal issues - see slide 92 of the slide deck from IAG's Capital Markets Day linked below:
https://www.iairgroup.com/investors-...kets-day-2023/ There does seem be a concerted effort to improve operational performance at Heathrow, but BA is supertanker and things take time to turn around. |
Originally Posted by Downwind_Left
(Post 11549387)
Because Dave was explaining that a flight that’s shown on FR24 as 20 minutes late probably left the gate ontime or early according to the schedule.
Just picking a random example, BA219 LHR-DEN today is shown as 1225 scheduled departure, 1243 acutal on FR24. But the scheduled departure time is the time the aircraft is expected to leave the gate, whereas FR24 is showing the airborne time. The actual departure time according to BA.com was 1218. So you see the discrepancy. A flight scheduled to leave at 1225 leaves 7 minutes early at 1218, but is misreported by FR24 as leaving 18 minutes late. And the same thing applies to arrivals in reverse. FR24 shows landing time not arrival at the gate. I was recently on a BA flight that landed 20 minutes early but due to delays on the ground finally arrived on stand 10 minutes late. So the actual arrival was delayed by 10 minutes, whereas FR24 would wrongly report it as 20 minutes early. |
I'm sorry Andymartin, but I don't know how you can confidently proclaim that "we all know FR24 quotes the actual landing and take off times". I dare say there are some users who don't know that.
Secondly, the OP's comment was that the flight is rarely on time, ranging from 20 minutes to 5.5 hours late. What Dave Reid was correctly pointing out is that a flight that FR24 shows as 20 minutes late very likely departed from the gate on time. In fact, with Heathrow taxi times usually 20-25 minutes, and most industry observers (including the CAA in their punctuality statistics) treating flights that left the gate up to 15 minutes late as an on time departure, if FR24 shows the departure was up to 40 minutes after the scheduled departure time, it was really on time! |
Well she left late at 10.35 and was 20 min late landing.
I went to greet her at the airport with our driver as I had come down with EK earlier and our driver said BA was never on time unquote. Anyway a quick report from Mrs Mac. Flight down from Manchester was fine in newish A320 but lounge in Manchester not that great but LH use same brand in T1 so would agree with her. Inflight Bacon Butty left as had Ketchup on it apparently with no option to be Ketchup free. I know first world problems but asked for the critiqu so that’s what I got. LHR T5 was quite tired and dirty with worn furniture and fittings. Unbelievably they still have the same issue with Champagne ie it’s not on the bar you have to ask fit it specially, she only wanted to make a Bucks Fiz for gods sake not swim in it 🙄 Flight down was good in 2 year old A350. Crew were good and food was rated highly especially Smoked Salmon and lamb and Cheese. In flight entertainment was ok but not as good as EK or Singapore but not bad. They were bused at Nairobi rather than air bridge for some reason. Overall good but some issues. The big thing though is the requirement to transfer at LHR T5 which makes for a long day for those based outside SE which she said would impact her choice if she was paying for it. I will see what I think on our way back up and let you know. Cheers Mr Mac |
Originally Posted by Mr Mac
(Post 11550469)
Well she left late at 10.35 and was 20 min late landing.
I went to greet her at the airport with our driver as I had come down with EK earlier and our driver said BA was never on time unquote. Anyway a quick report from Mrs Mac. Flight down from Manchester was fine in newish A320 but lounge in Manchester not that great but LH use same brand in T1 so would agree with her. Inflight Bacon Butty left as had Ketchup on it apparently with no option to be Ketchup free. I know first world problems but asked for the critiqu so that’s what I got. LHR T5 was quite tired and dirty with worn furniture and fittings. Unbelievably they still have the same issue with Champagne ie it’s not on the bar you have to ask fit it specially, she only wanted to make a Bucks Fiz for gods sake not swim in it 🙄 Flight down was good in 2 year old A350. Crew were good and food was rated highly especially Smoked Salmon and lamb and Cheese. In flight entertainment was ok but not as good as EK or Singapore but not bad. They were bused at Nairobi rather than air bridge for some reason. Overall good but some issues. The big thing though is the requirement to transfer at LHR T5 which makes for a long day for those based outside SE which she said would impact her choice if she was paying for it. I will see what I think on our way back up and let you know. Cheers Mr Mac |
Originally Posted by Mr Mac
(Post 11550469)
Well she left late at 10.35 and was 20 min late landing.
I went to greet her at the airport with our driver as I had come down with EK earlier and our driver said BA was never on time unquote. Anyway a quick report from Mrs Mac. Flight down from Manchester was fine in newish A320 but lounge in Manchester not that great but LH use same brand in T1 so would agree with her. Inflight Bacon Butty left as had Ketchup on it apparently with no option to be Ketchup free. I know first world problems but asked for the critiqu so that’s what I got. LHR T5 was quite tired and dirty with worn furniture and fittings. Unbelievably they still have the same issue with Champagne ie it’s not on the bar you have to ask fit it specially, she only wanted to make a Bucks Fiz for gods sake not swim in it 🙄 Flight down was good in 2 year old A350. Crew were good and food was rated highly especially Smoked Salmon and lamb and Cheese. In flight entertainment was ok but not as good as EK or Singapore but not bad. They were bused at Nairobi rather than air bridge for some reason. Overall good but some issues. The big thing though is the requirement to transfer at LHR T5 which makes for a long day for those based outside SE which she said would impact her choice if she was paying for it. I will see what I think on our way back up and let you know. Cheers Mr Mac As for the consistently late arrivals into Nairobi, that’s probably true for very good reason. For safety reasons BA are prohibited from using Sudanese airspace (North and South) so are forced to take longer routings to avoid it, extending flying times in both directions. |
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