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Wizz Consolidation in LON
Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 11565213)
Wizzair's London bases are Luton and Gatwick. Unless there is approval for a new terminal, Luton is approaching its capacity - an increase in pax allowed from 18m per year to 19m is not going to make a huge difference if flights are being upgauged from A319 to A320 and A320 to A321. Gatwick isn't exactly empty either - I'm sure Wizzair can get hold of a few slots here and there, but thinking strategically rather than tactically, this isn't going to provide huge amounts of airport capacity quickly. I know they have an issue around inspection of aircraft engines... but this should be largely resolved by late 2024.
Should Wizzair look elsewhere in and around London for future airport capacity ? Neither Heathrow nor City are suitable for Wizzair. I don't see any of Birmingham, East Midlands, Lydd, Norwich or Southampton being useful to Wizzair for taking pax to/from London. Should Wizzair look at Southend ? Or even venture into the enemy's lair at Stansted ? Or should Wizzair just deploy extra capacity to routes that don't touch London and its suburbs ? For all the fierce competition most of the overlap in routes is in Spain & Italy they are both used to competition and co-exist at many airports so would find a way of living together at STN. |
Financial loss doubled for the last quarter compared to that in 2022. CEO keeps saying not to worry. I get that the engine inspection thing is not their fault and will hurt... but Ryanair made money in the same quarter.
Last year I flew Wizzair a lot, far more than Ryanair, simply because they were so cheap or the T&C of the ticket were so favourable to me. I'm wondering however if Wizzair are becoming the new Air Berlin - namely a LCC for which substantial profit is always going to happen soon rather than now. Any thoughts ? |
Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 11586460)
Financial loss doubled for the last quarter compared to that in 2022. CEO keeps saying not to worry. I get that the engine inspection thing is not their fault and will hurt... but Ryanair made money in the same quarter.
Last year I flew Wizzair a lot, far more than Ryanair, simply because they were so cheap or the T&C of the ticket were so favourable to me. I'm wondering however if Wizzair are becoming the new Air Berlin - namely a LCC for which substantial profit is always going to happen soon rather than now. Any thoughts ? |
I still think in time they'll merge with EasyJet. Can't see either being able to compete long term as stand alone operators and that would give them massive network coverage and market share.
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BHX
Originally Posted by EI-BUD
(Post 11586930)
Certainly feels like that. They are running from Ryanair in many instances. Tirana is the next battleground and they'll not fair well there, the battle lines are drawn and from here on in Europe with the exception of places where they have slots (LTN,MXP etc.), they'll avoid fighting Ryanair. They'll look east and are that rate they'll be well protected from Ryanair.
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Does anyone have a feel for generally how the UK to Eastern European market is holding up? We travel there quite a bit and it seems to me that weekly frequencies are generally down across the board, especially to the smaller cities. Destinations haven't been totally dropped but now only once or twice a week to some places that used to see more pre-Brexit / Ukraine war etc. If the market is tightening then Wizz won't stand a chance against FR.
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I've just seen mention of a Norway Discount Club on the Wizzair website, along with the current Italy Discount Club.
The Italy Discount Club and the more general Discount Club have been around for a while, but I hadn't heard of anything Norway-based Is this a sign that Wizzair is struggling in Norway and is trying to boost sales in the country by trying to persuade people to take out a multi-month subscription ? With the obvious corollary that if take-up isn't great, then some routes to/from Norway might see reduced frequency of disappear ? |
Cluj Napoca now removed from the booking engine for Liverpool and Birmingham.
if I’m honest, given they are forecasting 40 aircraft to be out for inspections over 2024 I’m not surprised they’re cutting routes to a declining U.K. market. |
Originally Posted by Charlie98
(Post 11588498)
Cluj Napoca now removed from the booking engine for Liverpool and Birmingham.
if I’m honest, given they are forecasting 40 aircraft to be out for inspections over 2024 I’m not surprised they’re cutting routes to a declining U.K. market. |
Wizz advertising Luck dip holidays. How does this work.
Wizz Air offering mystery holiday where you only find out destination when you land - Teesside Live (gazettelive.co.uk) |
Originally Posted by N707ZS
(Post 11599329)
Wizz advertising Luck dip holidays. How does this work.
Wizz Air offering mystery holiday where you only find out destination when you land - Teesside Live (gazettelive.co.uk) As Wizz no longer operate the Italian routes from LTN and transferred them to LGW it may well end up being the same. |
Originally Posted by Falcon666
(Post 11599386)
They operated one of these mystery flights from Luton a couple of years ago- it ended up in Bari if I remember.
As Wizz no longer operate the Italian routes from LTN and transferred them to LGW it may well end up being the same. |
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