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tictack67 27th May 2023 02:58


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11441189)
Equally where are all the A321s for all the carriers going?

United are only getting "a handful" towards the end of 2024, they don't arrive enmasse until 2025

Source interview with Dan Qualye Senior Vice President, who fear not mentions possible locations that may get A321XLR

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...business-class

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Asturias56 27th May 2023 08:05


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11441189)
Equally where are all the A321s for all the carriers going?


replacing all the other , smaller, B737's and A 319,320 etc

Planeraz 27th May 2023 09:11


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11441301)
replacing all the other , smaller, B737's and A 319,320 etc

United using a 321XLR on the EWR route, which can seat around 180 would technically be a small increase in capacity. The 752’s seat between 169 and 176. The 321’s would also be a substantial upgrade on comfort etc. Newer J class product and premier economy. The article posted above gives the biggest possible hint that EDI is likely to see the 321XLR.

Sk1schoolsam 27th May 2023 10:41


Originally Posted by Planeraz (Post 11441341)
United using a 321XLR on the EWR route, which can seat around 180 would technically be a small increase in capacity. The 752’s seat between 169 and 176. The 321’s would also be a substantial upgrade on comfort etc. Newer J class product and premier economy. The article posted above gives the biggest possible hint that EDI is likely to see the 321XLR.

And of a return to GLA too, positive for Scotland not necessarily helping EDI loads and hopefully they retain the double daily in NS24.

Plane mad 134 27th May 2023 10:48

The article is from last year. Lots can change in a year and the 2nd daily EDI was added after the article using old GLA flight numbers. Never say never of course, but I feel JetBlue are more likely initially.

Skipness One Foxtrot 30th May 2023 14:32

Anyone fill in the biggest long haul aircraft on they can fit on stand :
1 B757-200
2 B757-200
2A
3 B757-200
3A
4 B757-200
4A
12
15
16
18
21
23
25
Is that a total of eleven stands available if they're willing to bus? I know it's sub-par but even DXB happily buses many B77Ws per day.

gham89 30th May 2023 15:01


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 11443052)
Anyone fill in the biggest long haul aircraft on they can fit on stand :
1 B757-200
2 B757-200
2A B787-800
3 B757-200
3A
4 B757-200
4A B777-300ER
10A A330-200

12 B777-300ER
15 B777-300ER
16 B777-300ER
18 B777-300ER
21
23 A340-200
25
Is that a total of eleven stands available if they're willing to bus? I know it's sub-par but even DXB happily buses many B77Ws per day.

According to the NATS charts - updates in bold.

SWBKCB 30th May 2023 15:05


even DXB happily buses many B77Ws per day.
On average, warmer and drier than EDI... :ok:

Asturias56 31st May 2023 08:46

The elderly will remember that Singapore Paya Labar operated very efficiently with buses - but they were specials, very wide, about a foot off the ground, and A/C that could freeze you to death in 10 minutes. I can't remember anyone ever complaining- but then there were lots of them and they were applied using intelligence - something that seems lacking in any UK bus operation where sending one to move 180 passengers seem to be the norm

Skipness One Foxtrot 31st May 2023 09:33


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11443069)
On average, warmer and drier than EDI... :ok:

Covered steps to a bus is a huge issue? Come on, it's doable, there's just no will for the added costs of doing it well. We are forever penny wise and pound foolish. Or perhaps the arguement being airport cost vs. handling agent cost in a never ending tussle.
Many European airports with awful winters also bus efficiently.

Planeraz 31st May 2023 13:58

Tui - S24

Reported to be dropping long haul flights from EDI. Won’t be much of a surprise to most. Not a huge loss either given their limited offerings from EDI.

Asturias56 31st May 2023 14:07

It helps if you remember to open the aeroplane - I nearly froze to death on some steps at LHR boarding a Brit Midland flight to Teesside one winter day - bus left - all got on the stairs - door locked...................

inOban 31st May 2023 14:56

I must admit that I am puzzled at TUI abandoning Edinburgh. As the more prosperous side of the country I would have thought that it would be a decent market. I guess it's Glasgow or Newcastle.

edistevie 31st May 2023 16:21


Originally Posted by Planeraz (Post 11443608)
Tui - S24

Reported to be dropping long haul flights from EDI. Won’t be much of a surprise to most. Not a huge loss either given their limited offerings from EDI.

We went to Cancun last year from EDI flight was jammed packed, what gets me it was the last flight out from Edi at the beginning of July and it was the start of the School Holidays in the East, these flights started beginning of June same with the Florida flight, what a waste, these flights would possibly filled through all of July and probably August too.

CabinCrewe 31st May 2023 16:45

odd if apparent rip roaring success they didn't choose to extend the series (and never have done even pre covid). They can direct their travel agencies to fill anything I suppose.
I'm sure they’ve done the ‘math’ of costs positioning crew and a Dreamliner a few weeks a year. Think BRS was deemed marginal
also.
Perhaps the other transatlantic offerings are giving cheap one stop connections via IAD or NYC, plus if VS sticks around, their high summer MCO service for Florida.

A350Saltire 31st May 2023 18:47

If I was to choose something to lose from EDI it would have been TUI. Can’t see this having a big impact. Got plenty connections to North America (with more to come I’m sure) including a very good A350 product on VS to MCO.

FR, U2 and LS I’m sure will cover the other European holiday destinations well.

TUI have been pretty stagnant for years at EDI.

Planeraz 1st Jun 2023 07:18

Lufthansa W23

LH making additional cuts. EDI appears to come out of this fairly well.

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230601-lhnw23eu

Breathe 1st Jun 2023 08:49


Originally Posted by tictack67 (Post 11441207)
United are only getting "a handful" towards the end of 2024, they don't arrive enmasse until 2025

Source interview with Dan Qualye Senior Vice President, who fear not mentions possible locations that may get A321XLR

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...business-class

​​

Dan Qualye? The article mentions a Patrick Quayle. Were you thinking of another vice president back in the day? :)

Planeraz 2nd Jun 2023 08:39

Busiest day of S23 so far tomorrow and biggest number of scheduled wide-body aircraft (probably ever?) in one day at EDI.

Air Canada resume Toronto service this evening/tomorrow..

3 x 752’s - United
3 x 763’s - Delta
3 x 788’s - Air Canada & 2 x Qatar
1 x 789 - Westjet
1 x 764 - United

Big test for the airport and its infrastructure.

ld0595 2nd Jun 2023 09:04


Originally Posted by Planeraz (Post 11444596)
Busiest day of S23 so far tomorrow and biggest number of scheduled wide-body aircraft (probably ever?) in one day at EDI.

Air Canada resume Toronto service this evening/tomorrow..

3 x 752’s - United
3 x 763’s - Delta
3 x 788’s - Air Canada & 2 x Qatar
1 x 789 - Westjet
1 x 764 - United

Big test for the airport and its infrastructure.

You can add VS to that list with the A35K from June 24. Hainan still to come with their A330 as well albeit on Fridays and Mondays. As you say, busy summer ahead!

Loadings for tonight's Toronto looking pretty healthy with just handful of seats free in economy. Even the return is looking reasonably well loaded too across all cabins.


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