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Skipness One Foxtrot 28th Mar 2024 12:31

FYI Norwegian flew LGW-LAS winter 2016-2018 from 2, growing to 4 weekly. Never came back late 2019 though.

Aksai Oiler 28th Mar 2024 14:03


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 11623374)
I was watching a report on Turkmenistan and they have what seems like a very good airport at ASB with very few flights and the guy was served what looked like a very good meal in economy. Interesting airline.

I was last there in the summer (8th or 9th trip over the last 15 years). Awful Airport, few amenities available (one or two cafes, no business lounge (unless you go through CIP). You can wait over 3 hours to get your visa on arrival, pay in cash for almost everything. Country is one of the most closed left, although people are generally well meaning.

A lot of transit travel onto India.

True Blue 28th Mar 2024 14:24

From all the new route announcements, it doesn't appear that all the EI slots have been distributed yet to other airlines. Are these BA slots leased to EI or EI owned slots that will be available for any airline to take up? They had 4/5 slots per day, so room for some significant expansion for someone.

richardwpprn 28th Mar 2024 19:21

Norse 16:45 LAS-LGW departure seems quite early.

Sotonsean 28th Mar 2024 19:47


Originally Posted by richardwpprn (Post 11625402)
Norse 16:45 LAS-LGW departure seems quite early.

Not necessarily, in comparison.

BA226 LAS 15.45 LGW 09.55+

In comparison to

BA0274 LAS 21.45 LHR 15.50+


SWBKCB 29th Mar 2024 11:09


Fly Erbil in Northern summer 2024 season is extending its network to the UK, as the airline opened reservations for Erbil – London Gatwick route. From 31MAY24, Airbus A320 aircraft will operate this route once weekly on Fridays, although westbound flight will operate via Plovdiv.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240329-udns24lgw

tourops 30th Mar 2024 11:38


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11625769)

I think the country 'Iraq' needs to be inserted after Northern

SWBKCB 30th Mar 2024 11:43


Originally Posted by tourops (Post 11626340)
I think the country 'Iraq' needs to be inserted after Northern

No - it says "Northern summer 2024 season", so the period the flight operates.

FlyGatwick 30th Mar 2024 19:36

Air Peace inaugural Gatwick-lagos flight
 

Originally Posted by Sotonsean (Post 11606563)
Air Peace have since revised their schedule for the airlines proposed route between Lagos and London Gatwick.

The schedule now involves 6 weekly flight's compared to the previously announced 5. Flight's are still intended to start on the 30 March 2024. Air Peace will be using a mix of Boeing 777-200ER and leased Norse Atlantic B789. Air Peace will be using London Gatwick’s South Terminal.

P47578 LOS 00.45 LGW 07.25 B777 7
P47578 LOS 23.59 LGW 06.45 B789 x567
P47578 LOS 23.59 LGW 06.45 B777 5

P47579 LGW 11.10 LOS 17.50 B789 x 567
P47479 LGW 11.10 LOS 17.40 B777 67

Credit to aeroroutes.com

There's a certain individual on Simplistic Flying who's posts are extremely annoying at the best of times. In his regular rants he's recently posted the following.

"I don't want Air Peace flying to the UK with aircraft parts falling on mine and my families home's".

He obviously cares a lot less about his friends home's. He lives in Manchester. How an Air Peace aircraft is going to affect him and his family based in Manchester when the aircraft will be flying upto 200 miles south is beyond me.

But in saying that I've always been rather skeptical about Air Peace and I know others on here share the same opinion.

I was lucky enough to see the Air Peace 777 (a 200 series) operating today's inaugural Gatwick-Lagos flight line up for takeoff on the main runway. I saw it from the window of the train which took me from Gatwick to Brighton. So, Air Peace finally made it to the UK and to Gatwick!


Upon my return to Gatwick, I exited the station via one of the routes that took me straight to South Terminal check-in. When I walked past the info board showing the airlines operating from South Terminal and their allocated check-in zone, I also saw that TAAG had been listed. In my experience, GAL only do this if the airlines concerned have confirmed that they are actually going to operate from the airport. So, does this mean TAAG is after all starting their route from Gatwick to Luanda within the summer 2024 timetable period (most likely later during that period)?

Sotonsean 31st Mar 2024 12:27


Originally Posted by FlyGatwick (Post 11626543)
I was lucky enough to see the Air Peace 777 (a 200 series) operating today's inaugural Gatwick-Lagos flight line up for takeoff on the main runway. I saw it from the window of the train which took me from Gatwick to Brighton. So, Air Peace finally made it to the UK and to Gatwick!


Upon my return to Gatwick, I exited the station via one of the routes that took me straight to South Terminal check-in. When I walked past the info board showing the airlines operating from South Terminal and their allocated check-in zone, I also saw that TAAG had been listed. In my experience, GAL only do this if the airlines concerned have confirmed that they are actually going to operate from the airport. So, does this mean TAAG is after all starting their route from Gatwick to Luanda within the summer 2024 timetable period (most likely later during that period)?

TAAG has been shown on the allocated check-in zone ever since the airline was supposed to start flying to the airport in December 2023.

TAAG has been shown on the airports' arrivals/departure boards ever since the airline was supposed to be flying to the airport in December 2023.

If and when the airline actually starts flights to LGW. The day that TAAG releases any further information regarding their intention on starting a Luanda to LGW route, I'll start believing that it's actually going to happen. TAAG has a shortage of long haul aircraft at the moment. Perhaps we might have to wait until they start receiving their Boeing B789s.

But in saying that, of course I would like to see TAAG finally land at LGW.

Also nice to know that you coincidently witnessed for yourself the Air Peace Boeing 777-200 departing LGW on it's inaugural flight back to Lagos.

There is so much potential regarding LGW and the possibility of attracting more African airlines to the airport in the future.

BA318 3rd Apr 2024 10:56

According to reports BA will operate the 787-10 from Gatwick next summer to Barbados: https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...bados-capacity
Also being reported that BA will operate Islamabad 3 times weekly from LGW.

nguba 3rd Apr 2024 11:10


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 11628547)
According to reports BA will operate the 787-10 from Gatwick next summer to Barbados: https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...bados-capacity
Also being reported that BA will operate Islamabad 3 times weekly from LGW.

Think the wording of the article is slightly confused. The actual quote from BA only refers to Heathrow.

In recent years, BA has operated a winter seasonal service from Gatwick to Barbados and this is not returning. BA has increased Barbados from Heathrow up to twice daily, with a 787-10 aircraft.

BA could theoretically operate Barbados from Gatwick again with a 787-10 on a W pattern from Heathrow, but I doubt they'd do it.


spacedog 3rd Apr 2024 11:11


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 11628547)
According to reports BA will operate the 787-10 from Gatwick next summer to Barbados: https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...bados-capacity
Also being reported that BA will operate Islamabad 3 times weekly from LGW.

BA start double daily from LHR to BGI 27Oct with a combination of 787-9 787-1.
current schedule is daily from LHR with 787-1

islamabad still showing 3 x weekly from LHR summer 2024 and winter 24-25

vectisman 3rd Apr 2024 11:16

Winter seasonal Gatwick to Bridgetown will not operate in winter 2024. The service will be twice daily from Heathrow. The Travel Weekly headline is incorrect.
I do believe the Islamabad service is moving to Gatwick this Winter. Timetable will be updated shortly I believe.

SWBKCB 12th Apr 2024 20:11


Allen Onyema, the CEO of Air Peace, has disclosed that since the airline began its direct flights from Lagos to London a few weeks ago, Gatwick Airport has deliberately frustrated its operations, aiming to impede its activities in the UK recently.
https://nairametrics.com/2024/04/10/...ht-operations/

Asturias56 13th Apr 2024 08:44

Allen Onyema, the CEO of Air Peace, has disclosed that since the airline began its direct flights from Lagos to London a few weeks ago, Gatwick Airport has deliberately frustrated its operations, aiming to impede its activities in the UK recently. Onyema made this revelation on Tuesday during an exclusive interview on the Channels TV evening program, Politics Today, where he shared insights into his airline’s experience after launching the Lagos-London route.

The CEO of Air Peace has observed that since the airline’s entrance into the Nigeria-UK route, which resulted in lower fares, foreign carriers have been pushing back. He cited recent challenges with ground handling and space allocation at Gatwick Airport as proof of these retaliatory actions.
  • “On the inaugural flight out of London.
  • “24 hours to the time, they (management of Gatwick Airport) moved us to another checking area other than the place assigned to us.
  • “The place they gave us, the carousel was not working.
  • “So, when you are checking people, you need to manually carry the load 50 metres away to drop it somewhere else just to delay you.
  • “No other airline faced that,” Onyema explained.
Onyema further revealed that on the day Air Peace was reassigned to a terminal with a malfunctioning baggage carousel, it was subsequently observed that the boarding gate in that area had collapsed, adding to the airline’s growing list of frustrations at the London airport.
Recommended reading: Foreign airlines lowering Lagos-London fares to push us out of market -Air Peace

More insight

  • Onyema delved into the challenges Air Peace faced, recounting instances where, despite completing boarding on time, flights were delayed by an additional 20 minutes because the airport’s management failed to provide ground handlers promptly. He emphasized that while Air Peace consistently departs on schedule from Lagos, it regularly encounters delays at Gatwick Airport.
  • He suggested that these obstructions might be part of a deliberate strategy to displace Air Peace from Gatwick under the 80/20 slot rule, which mandates that airlines must maintain 80% on-time departure to retain their slots. Failure to meet this standard risks having their slots revoked and given to other airlines.
  • To combat this, Onyema mentioned that Air Peace is documenting these incidents in a dossier to highlight the deliberate tactics by Gatwick Airport to hinder its operations. This comprehensive record will be presented to the Federal Government to seek intervention and address the injustices faced at Gatwick Airport.

vectisman 13th Apr 2024 09:16

Gatwick is not responsible for ground handling. That is between Air Peace and whoever was awarded the ground handling contract.
I just do not believe the airport would deliberately obstruct a new carrier to the airport.
Remember this is the man who demanded access to Heathrow and wanted the Nigerian Government to stop BA from having access from LHR to Lagos.
I think he has an agenda here!

DC3 Dave 13th Apr 2024 09:20

LGW needs to give Air Peace a chance. 🥸

Apron Artist 13th Apr 2024 09:34

Red Handling handles Air Peace.

vectisman 13th Apr 2024 11:32


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 11634553)
LGW needs to give Air Peace a chance. 🥸

The Air Peace CEO needs to grow up and stop shouting his mouth off more like! He is still cross he didn't get Heathrow.


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