Originally Posted by FlyboyUK
(Post 11181335)
And presuming things go to plan there will be some orange tails parked up at the south terminal this summer too.
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Skipness, I have heard from several sources that easyjet will be operating some flights from South Terminal this Summer. I believe they will be the series numbered 6xxx. I think it is because they are increasing their based fleet to some 79 aircraft. With other airlines based in North planning a return or increased frequencies there probably is not the capacity for North to take all the extra flights. BA have also leased some slots to easyjet, so maybe operationally easier to operate these from South, I don’t know for sure.
I am also not sure which destinations are operating from South, maybe some of their summer seasonal services. I also believe easyjet are leasing in aircraft from Smartlynx and maybe Titan. . |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11181412)
Hang on, the whole point of shifting BA out was to ensure easyJet could be under one roof. With traffic still well down on 2019, why would easyJet need to be split over two terminals?
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I also think a lot of the Gatwick leisure airlines are reporting very heavy bookings for Summer 2022 for Gatwick departures.
Sorry Vokes55 our posts crossed. |
I agree with vokes55 regarding the recovery of the short haul leisure and VFR market. Gatwick suffered a great deal when the pandemic affected this sector but the upside is that it will recover quite quickly as this market is now improving rapidly.
British Airways have also hugely expanded their Heathrow short haul leisure this year capture some of that market. It’s been a while since BA operated 4 or 5 flights daily to Malaga, Palma, Faro etc… from Heathrow, I also hear bookings at BA Euroflyer are doing well. I also have been told that the BA Mainline long haul from Gatwick is doing well in all cabins to leisure destinations. |
Scheduled flights /= passenger volumes, I'd be surprised if we're back to pre COVID levels in only four months time. Capacity is on sale but until masks and testing ends, the uncertainty will continue to suppress travel demand.
However my question was, even at 2019 peak, EZY was in one terminal. Why would that change if South re-opens and Virgin have no flights this summer and WestJet are moving YYC to LHR? Seems odd, anyone know? |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11181464)
Scheduled flights /= passenger volumes, I'd be surprised if we're back to pre COVID levels in only four months time. Capacity is on sale but until masks and testing ends, the uncertainty will continue to suppress travel demand.
However my question was, even at 2019 peak, EZY was in one terminal. Why would that change if South re-opens and Virgin have no flights this summer and WestJet are moving YYC to LHR? Seems odd, anyone know? Also, has there been any word on VS possibly returning to LGW? |
Those of us travelling to/from Gatwick by train would far prefer as much flying as possible to be in the South terminal... even if it means having to check whether a particular route is in North or South
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 11181474)
Those of us travelling to/from Gatwick by train would far prefer as much flying as possible to be in the South terminal... even if it means having to check whether a particular route is in North or South
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We can question it as much as we like but that is what is planned. Wizzair will also have a much greater presence in the Summer 2022. I am not sure what terminal in which they will be based.
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Originally Posted by vectisman
(Post 11181494)
We can question it as much as we like but that is what is planned. Wizzair will also have a much greater presence in the Summer 2022. I am not sure what terminal in which they will be based.
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I meant a greater presence at Gatwick.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11181464)
Scheduled flights /= passenger volumes, I'd be surprised if we're back to pre COVID levels in only four months time. Capacity is on sale but until masks and testing ends, the uncertainty will continue to suppress travel demand.
However my question was, even at 2019 peak, EZY was in one terminal. Why would that change if South re-opens and Virgin have no flights this summer and WestJet are moving YYC to LHR? Seems odd, anyone know? easy were actually planning a small South operation in Summer 2020, so it’s not a totally new phenomenon. As for whether we will be back at pre-Covid levels in four months, time will tell. But short haul leisure and VFR are the two markets bouncing back quickest, and that’s what’s currently in the schedule for LGW. This morning TUI reported stronger sales for this summer than 2019, and whilst they’re only a small part of the Gatwick operation, it is a bellwether for the state of the outbound leisure market. |
Things do seem to be on the up.
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Originally Posted by vectisman
(Post 11181494)
We can question it as much as we like but that is what is planned. Wizzair will also have a much greater presence in the Summer 2022. I am not sure what terminal in which they will be based.
London Gatwick with easyJet | easyJet Very interesting. I wonder what zone they'll be based in? From memory, they had zone C before BA took over.. |
BA Gatwick based fleet looking to be about 30 aircraft at moment. 18 Airbus A319/320 for short haul plus about 12 777s. Up to 4 Iberia Express available too.
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
(Post 11181523)
easy were actually planning a small South operation in Summer 2020, so it’s not a totally new phenomenon.
When BA were at their peak bussing from the 130s and 140s was common, but all check in and facilities were in one terminal. Now it seems that easyJet are too big for one terminal (and let's reflect how impressive that is and how dominant they are at LGW) then the option of processing through one terminal and bussing would still be there, but why make use of South too? There's roughly 39 pier served gates on the North Terminal on Piers 4,5 and 6, and arriving heavies will be taking their place when the first wave departs. If easyJet have 79 based aircraft then good luck Gatwick, that doesn't sound like fun. |
Thanks all, do you think the Yotel will reopen soon then? Don't want to book something else outside the terminal if it's on the cards.
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Originally Posted by azzbo
(Post 11181587)
Thanks all, do you think the Yotel will reopen soon then? Don't want to book something else outside the terminal if it's on the cards.
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Perhaps you could contact Yotel and ask them when they intend to reopen ?
If the people managing the hotel don't know... https://www.yotel.com/en/contact-us |
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