All these months later, handling agents are still having serious staffing issues, which at this point well past the summer peak is frankly diabolical. DHL are apparently very short staffed, and according to an anonymous staff member have altered/cut overtime rates from this month which has further worsened this. Lots of easyJet flights with very long waits for baggage yesterday night/this morning with people sat and laid all across the reclaim area. I waited 3 hours... Coupling that with the train strikes made for a very miserable travel experience at the end of a good trip away.
Airport mostly fine a week ago for our departure, but even then we were delayed for ~30 mins on the ground after boarding due to slow offloading and late delivery of bags... |
Originally Posted by adfly
(Post 11306716)
All these months later, handling agents are still having serious staffing issues, which at this point well past the summer peak is frankly diabolical. DHL are apparently very short staffed, and according to an anonymous staff member have altered/cut overtime rates from this month which has further worsened this. Lots of easyJet flights with very long waits for baggage yesterday night/this morning with people sat and laid all across the reclaim area. I waited 3 hours... Coupling that with the train strikes made for a very miserable travel experience at the end of a good trip away.
Airport mostly fine a week ago for our departure, but even then we were delayed for ~30 mins on the ground after boarding due to slow offloading and late delivery of bags... |
Aurora Borealis
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It appears that long term resident Handley Page Dart Herald G-CEXP is to be removed by the end of the month, probably for scrap.The airport is being very tight lipped about it and seem to be in a rush to get rid of it. Would any one have any news on when it is to be removed and where it is going?
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New route with TUI to Ohrid for summer 2023
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2022/10...rvice.html?m=1 |
Originally Posted by tubby linton
(Post 11314695)
It appears that long term resident Handley Page Dart Herald G-CEXP is to be removed by the end of the month, probably for scrap.The airport is being very tight lipped about it and seem to be in a rush to get rid of it. Would any one have any news on when it is to be removed and where it is going?
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I would query the lack of credibility comment as the group did send a fully costed extraction plan to the airport. The airport never once offered any contribution to the removal cost and have hindered the project for many months.At one stage the airport were demanding the group also remove the MD-80 hulk as well and again for no cost to themselves.
The aircraft couldn’t be in a much worse spot near the westerly thresholds. The aircraft was also dropped when it was removed from the terminal roof damaging one of the main gear legs. It would have been easier and cheaper to remove it if it had been left up there. The airport could have made a donation(tax deductible) to the group and the aircraft could have been preserved. They have never made any such offer. |
CI leaving LHR in favour of LGW?
Have just noticed that somebody has updated the LGW wiki page to show China Airlines resuming LGW-TPE from 27th March, and this is also reflected on the airline's website with fares loaded. Does anyone know if they're planning on leaving LHR, given that they were awarded slots there not that long ago?
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Originally Posted by JW95
(Post 11323872)
Have just noticed that somebody has updated the LGW wiki page to show China Airlines resuming LGW-TPE from 27th March, and this is also reflected on the airline's website with fares loaded. Does anyone know if they're planning planning on leaving LHR, given that they were awarded slots there not that long ago?
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11323960)
Summer 22 was the same, seems to be a placeholder while they try and get enough permanent winter AND summer slots of their own. I'd be surprised if they have to leave LHR, a deal should be possible.
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New route to Lyon with Wizz from 10-Jan-2023, 4x weekly. Apologies if I missed an earlier post mentioning this
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Gatwick airport historical question, if I may, albeit recentish history concerning terminals.
Can anyone give a date that the shuttle link between South terminal and satelite ceased operation please ? Every source, every discussion, every google response that does actually get to the satelite shuttle (as opposed to confusing it with the North terminal shuttle) seems to say when it opened, and that it was eventually replaced by a moving walkway link, but none seem to give a cessation date. South satelite shuttle starts at 11 m 23 s here : Anybody ? Thanks. |
Originally Posted by D7666
(Post 11330007)
Gatwick airport historical question, if I may, albeit recentish history concerning terminals.
Can anyone give a date that the shuttle link between South terminal and satelite ceased operation please ? Every source, every discussion, every google response that does actually get to the satelite shuttle (as opposed to confusing it with the North terminal shuttle) seems to say when it opened, and that it was eventually replaced by a moving walkway link, but none seem to give a cessation date. South satelite shuttle starts at 11 m 23 s here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X3hbdnZzEg Anybody ? Thanks. |
Jet2 have 2 737 aircraft operating from Gatwick today. One flight looks to be a Christmas Charter to Rovaniemi and the other to Tenerife. Looking at FR24 these aircraft have been operating at Gatwick throughout November. Does anyone know who for? I do know the flights are not for Jet2 holidays.
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Tenerife is for P&O Cruises,
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Originally Posted by toledoashley
(Post 11337571)
Tenerife is for P&O Cruises,
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With some research also discovered Jet2 are operating Lapland charters for various companies this winter 2022/2023 and next winter 2023/2024. They also have a contract with P&O for
some flights to and from Gatwick connecting with cruise ships particularly in the Canary Islands. British Airways used to operate various Lapland charters and ski charters from Gatwick pre-covid. Not sure if BA Euroflyer will be picking any of these up. We shall see as December approaches. Although BA Euroflyer has quite a large number of scheduled services due to start to winter ski destinations throughout December and January. |
British Airways
The Telegraph is reporting that BA looks set to significantly increase its LGW operation. Any ideas of what routes could feature if they go ahead with an expansion?
Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...twick-airport/ (available to subscribers only unfortunately). Also, are there any other airlines in the pipeline to launch or reinstate services from LGW going forward? |
Very interesting article and was able to read it too without having to subscribe 😉
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I think the key words in that article are "in the coming years". There doesn't appear to be much by way of expansion in terms of routes for next year.
Given much of the article features IAG/BA criticisms of HAL, you can understand how it got there. That said, experiences of flying BA from Gatwick have been good - no queue at check-in and the BA lounges are much more civilised than at Heathrow. |
I see from the BA site, when I have been considering some bookings, that the A321 is appearing on routes out of Lgw.
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Is BA EuroFlyer actually getting it's own AOC and callsign? Maybe by next summer?
When was the last summer BA had 28 based short haul aircraft at Gatters? |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11338400)
Is BA EuroFlyer actually getting it's own AOC and callsign? Maybe by next summer?
When was the last summer BA had 28 based short haul aircraft at Gatters? There is enough snack in the short haul fleet with relatively few aircraft retirements, new deliveries and still some in storage. It all depends on the timeframe being considered. Likewise with slots they have enough when you consider those temporarily leased out to others. At the moment they appear to be using about 52 slot pairs daily next summer( mainline and Euroflyer). They potentially have 80 to 90 slot pairs available when leases to others are taken into account. I believe A321 aircraft are due to start operating from Gatwick for BA from next February. |
Originally Posted by vectisman
(Post 11338454)
I believe A321 aircraft are due to start operating from Gatwick for BA from next February.
I suppose Heathrow will come to the rescue once more. |
Originally Posted by USERNAME_
(Post 11338616)
That will be fun. There are barely enough fit/legal/rested cabin crew to get 3 on a 319, let alone 5 on a 321.
I suppose Heathrow will come to the rescue once more. |
Originally Posted by vectisman
(Post 11338700)
Actually recruitment is going quite strongly for next Summer.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11338891)
It's holding onto them that's proving the problem as it's mainly hard days of there and back with next to glamorous nightstops. They have a staff retention problem I understand.
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Originally Posted by USERNAME_
(Post 11338929)
Exactly that. Recruitment isn’t an issue. In fact, they are churning out a few new entrant courses per month. The problem is, for both first time flyers and experienced crew, is that that after a month or two of flying, most of them decide it’s not the place for them.
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
(Post 11338951)
I guess remuneration factors highly?
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Gatwick has been intermittently closed due to snow today. Diversions have gone to Luton, Stansted, Birmingham, Bournemouth, Cardiff, Manchester and Liverpool.
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One inch of snow.
Gatwick Airport completely closed. Twitter account wrongly says "unforecast snow". TAF and airline forecasts disagree. This country no longer plans for even basic contingency. Every single thing is shareholder value. See also "British" Airways and Manchester "Airport". |
Lack of deicing vehicles doesn't help the situation either.
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A lack of snow removal equipment might be a justified excuse given how rarely they are needed, but aircraft need to be de-iced more mornings than not for about three months of every year.
It’s pathetic, but alas no longer unexpected in this country. |
Part of the issue is that runway/ramp clearance is down to the airport operator, who only lose landing fees if cancelled, and thus in the financial equation it seems not worthwhile to spend on kit and training. The big financial loss is to the airlines, but they don't make the decisions. There's nowhere else that Easyjet or the others can practically or commercially go to if they want to serve the market, and the airport owners and investors know that.
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There’s plenty of snow clearing equipment. It’s been sitting out ready for weeks off the end of pier 6. But not sure exactly what went wrong yesterday, presumably not enough people to operate it, just like the de-ice trucks
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Originally Posted by WHBM
(Post 11346659)
Part of the issue is that runway/ramp clearance is down to the airport operator, who only lose landing fees if cancelled, and thus in the financial equation it seems not worthwhile to spend on kit and training. The big financial loss is to the airlines, but they don't make the decisions. There's nowhere else that Easyjet or the others can practically or commercially go to if they want to serve the market, and the airport owners and investors know that.
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Originally Posted by WHBM
(Post 11346659)
Part of the issue is that runway/ramp clearance is down to the airport operator, who only lose landing fees if cancelled, and thus in the financial equation it seems not worthwhile to spend on kit and training. The big financial loss is to the airlines, but they don't make the decisions. There's nowhere else that Easyjet or the others can practically or commercially go to if they want to serve the market, and the airport owners and investors know that.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11346679)
I think the airport operator might point out that the airlines get what they pay for.
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Originally Posted by pabely
(Post 11346759)
So what is their excuse to Emirates for diversion of A380 to AMS? Do they pay LoCo landing & handling fees?
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What % increase in airport charges would allow a major airport like LGW to remain open 24/7/365? It would be pennies over a year?
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