Pre covid the LGW short haul fleet was -

A319's ex BMI x 10 DBCA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J & K
A320's in the GAT Series x 10 GATH/J/K/L/M/N/P/R/S/U
A320's ex BMI/BMED x 6 MIDO/S/T/X/Y & MEDK
A320's in the EUU Series x 6 (Off the top of my head I cant remember which 6 but it was the back end of EUU series of aircraft)

So total was 32 A/C

spot on, the EUU aircraft were

S, U, V, W, Y, Z

G-EUUT was LGW based pre COVID as well.
I heard the ex LHR A320s were coverted to bulk loading? Is the G-GAT* fleet containerised at all?

the G-GAT* and G-MID* A320s are loose loaded. I think G-MEDK may have been containerised

the G-EUU* birds that came down to LGW in summer were all containerised

Gatwick - Enter Air & Titan ?
 

Any idea whom the Tour Operator is that is using Polish Enter Air - U.K. to Greece

And who Titan is operating for? They are clearly package holidays. Good effort in getting volumes if they are selling

Sunvil charter a Enter Air aircraft for the summer for their Greece routes. Not sure on Titan though

Thanks Sunshine.

It seems the UK will be a social dumping ground for the foreseeable future. EU and Non-EU carriers allowed to operate UK routes with no reciprocal arrangements / rules

Any further information on these charters would be welcome

That I’m afraid is a result of the electorate getting what they voted for. Enter Air by the way are EU, I’m not aware of any non-EU airlines operating any UK-EU routes.

yup

Any ideas on who Titan are working for out of LGW this summer?

what Titan routes are you referring to?

I think it is Neilson

New route and new airline
Virtual airline SkyAlps, operated by Luxwing, to fly to Bolzano in the Dolomite mountains in the far north of Italy from 15 December 2021. Lead-in price is 135 euros one way. Aircraft seem to be Dash 8, ex-Flybe
Schedule seems to be 1x weekly on Wednesdays. Not sure who the target audience is with that timetable

Clearly skiers but weekend would surely have been better. It’s winter sport paradise around there.

Bolzano is a lovely city which British visitors may find surprisingly touristy - eg open top bus tours etc - given it is completely off the radar here. It’s also very different to typical Italian cities, not just in the language (German) but in how clean it is with higher-end shops. There’s loads to do in the surrounding area. I’ve wondered why no one has bothered operating there before, even if just TUI/Neilson etc winter packages. Summer is also a good time to go.

Ssshhh, don't tell anyone. They can stay at the lake down the road.

Bolzano's runway is (or was) surprisingly short - I doubt you could reliably get an A320 or B737 family aircraft in there without being prone to weather diversions, particularly with an Alps+winter constraint. That said, a more natural home in London for a sub-100 pax aircraft, particularly at high-ish leisure fares, is maybe London City rather than Gatwick

From Bolzano to the ski resorts (the nearest possibly being Selva or Predazzo) is at best 1 1/4, when it’s easily accessible from Innsbruck at just about a couple of hours. In a similar way lots of visitors to Florence fly into Pisa.

There are Alpine ski resorts local to Bolzano / Bozen but they aren't on the agenda for UK tour operators. The valleys of Pustertal and Antholzertal are good for cross country skiing and Biathlon, neither of which are popular winter sports for Brits.

I'm sure Bolzano was served from MAN a number of years ago - I remember having to look up where it was! Austrian or InterSky Dash-8?

appears there may also be a Sunday service too - but no outward flights loaded for Sundays yet

Dash 8; Long way in a noisy aircraft with hardly a great deal of space for skies in the boot?

British Airways Gatwick future
 

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1960...lapse/?ref=rss

Two things stand out:

1) The term - they couldn't come to an agreement for a 'BA-branded' carrier. Does that mean the alternative is a non-BA branded carrier?
2) 'Alternative uses'.

Perhaps one of the other operators within the IAG group may step up to the plate?

All BA LGW SH, apart from MAN and GLA feeders, removed from sale, they aren’t messing about.

I'm assuming a fair few Gatwick crew are on furlough currently. With that ending next week I wonder what this means for their future?

I suspect BA are using that threat as a way of strongarming the union into accepting the new severely downgraded Ts&Cs (bases on the figures I saw anyway)

There hasn't been a feeder flight from MAN for years.

Lgw - man

I'm booked in it in Feb

Looking for a positive spin: At least mgmt now don't have to worry about spending all that money on runway expansion ... :ok:

It appears, at the moment, to just be a BA suspension.

true from the wording of what I have seen but to withdraw flight from sale is pretty drastic action

had flights still be for sale I would see this as a tactic but not now it’s past that stage

Ryanair have played the "take flights off sale for a week and make airport sweat while we negotiate" tactic. If journalists ask questions, it can be put down to a "technical fault which we are working hard to resolve"

https://ukaviation.news/british-airw...d-union-talks/

lfc84

I think you're being very optimistic if you haven't considered the possibility that your flight will actually depart from LHR.

The problem is that no other IAG brand has the London presence or clout of British Airways. Aer Lingus tried Europe from Gatwick and stopped. Vueling isn't that popular or well known in the UK.
Personally I would rather fly easyjet than Vueling.

In my non expert opinion this move is a mistake both in the short and long term. LHR is looking to put up charges to airlines considerably to recoup losses. The European leisure market is predicted to recover faster than long haul. That
leisure market is what Gatwick does well. Trying to get back in to Gatwick in a couple of years may well be difficult too.

British Airways will not be able to offer such competitive fares/holidays for its holidays from Heathrow, as it is a much higher cost airport. I don't believe for one minute that all of BA's Gatwick customers will follow it down the road to LHR.

We shall have to see what the plans are for BA long haul at Gatwick. I have been hearing anything from 11 to 15 airframes. If Heathrow does raise charges for long haul travel, there may well be move moves of routes that have a higher amount of point to point traffic.

dastocks

The Manchester Gatwick is intended as a feeder flight for long haul at Gatwick. BA have today more or less confirmed it will go ahead as will a feeder service from Glasgow.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/briti...covid-12415115

Based short haul at LGW is finally gone.

MAN-LGW is intended for the Pakistan routes moved to LGW, as soon as PIA get back into MAN it'll be gone again. There's almost zero way to make that route work on connections only I think.
Not a criticism, gotta make hay while the sun shines, but the great untapped MAN-LGW market is something of a myth.

vectisman

To be fair, this was supposed to happen pre-covid but got suspended. Strange that flights are on sale but no one has actually told the Manchester ground staff. 😁

Jet2 winter base
 

Jet2.com seasonal charters, ski & Lapland program - from Nov:

Destinations loaded are:-

BGO
IVL
RVN
KAO
ENF
TLS
TRN
SOF
GNB
FCO

Up to 3 738's on selected dates - program running through until end of March.

Are you saying these are operating from Gatwick?

Yes indeed :)