When are major works on extending the runway scheduled to begin ? If nobody knows, it means it's not happening any time soon
Major means lots of people on site... not one man at an entrance gate watching a few CCTV cameras |
Originally Posted by SKOJB
(Post 11271923)
With the runway extension due to complete next year, which new airline/s do we think will be the first to arrive and to where?
Many U.K. airports have runways longer than what is proposed at SOU and they are struggling. As SEN has found out those that put down roots don’t always stay. |
Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 11272850)
When are major works on extending the runway scheduled to begin ? If nobody knows, it means it's not happening any time soon
Major means lots of people on site... not one man at an entrance gate watching a few CCTV cameras |
Originally Posted by stewyb
(Post 11272841)
The runway extension will be complete by April 2023 so let’s wait and see if any additional growth materialises thereafter!
If I were a prospective user of the extended runway I think I'd give it a miss until the back end of 2023, or more likely spring 2024. |
Didn't Azzura operate A320s 10-15 years ago from Southampton to some sun destinations? Were they heavily load restricted?
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 11272910)
Infrastructure projects hardly ever come in on time and / or on budget.
A case of 164x37metres of paved surface, four extra edge lights, insetting five centreline/approach lights, insetting the current 150 metre approach lighting crossbar, relocating/replacing the RWY 02 runway-end lights, adding a few turning area blue edge lights and installing a (pre-fabricated?) blast fence. Additionally, possibly a re-aligned perimeter track for use by airside ops vehicles? Unless there is an issue with the gas pipeline which runs east/west adjacent to the northern airport boundary, cannot see the potential for any significant project delay/overrun, unless the current record dry weather is followed by a monsoon! |
The cost will go up by at least 13% due to predicted inflation.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 11272994)
The cost will go up by at least 13% due to predicted inflation.
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Who won the contract then to do the work?
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Originally Posted by stewyb
(Post 11272841)
The runway extension will be complete by April 2023 so let’s wait and see if any additional growth materialises thereafter!
Therefore I don't expect any short term arrivals of airlines like easy etc. As stated before existing airlines payloads will be improved in adverse conditions |
Originally Posted by RW20
(Post 11273015)
This is a speculative assumption and is not based on any real facts.In addition the country's worsening financial state surely will impact on family holidays abroad in 2023/24.
Therefore I don't expect any short term arrivals of airlines like easy etc. As stated before existing airlines payloads will be improved in adverse conditions |
Originally Posted by cavokblues
(Post 11272947)
Didn't Azzura operate A320s 10-15 years ago from Southampton to some sun destinations? Were they heavily load restricted?
Spanair also used the Mad-Dog 83 as did Centennial LAC and Oasis (Palma) Currently EZY use the A319 (that has derated engines) and the A320ceo on their GVA Ski flights - a short sector but has had occasional payload issues I heard. Volotea have used the 319 for PMI and IBZ in the past - I gather again occasional tech stops needed - previously they used the Boeing 717 (was the MD-95) The most popular large aircraft seen at SOU on holiday IT's in the past was the 737-300 and 400, plus the 757-200. |
Originally Posted by stewyb
(Post 11273018)
Speculative no, facts yes, sorry to disappoint!!
Anyway, good news that the works should be starting soon. For all those posting past quotes about the runways potential limiting factors even with the extension, it wasn’t long ago that everyone thought Embraer 190 sized aircraft couldn’t be parked on the stands adjacent to the runway. Guess what, the airport made some changes and now a whole bunch of them are parked on those stands over the weekend without any affect on the runway. Things change. |
Who won the contract then to do the work? |
I can only give you the example of Luton. Here a deal was signed by the airport owner to build a 2km link between the airports railway station and the terminal. The deal was valued at £225m. It is over a year late and the cost has risen to close to £300m. I doubt the company that wins the SOU contract will be locked into a price, as all building projects seem to go over budget.
With inflation set to be at 13% and the country going into a deep recession I would expect SOU to hold off starting any work, as interest rates on borrowed money could be substantial due to ever increasing base rates. |
There's every chance the runway work will not be done for a while given the bleak recession announcement.
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Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 11273036)
Yes, A320's flew in and out for Spanair to Tenerife with a Tech stop outward at Nantes. Sorry no records of Azzura.
Spanair also used the Mad-Dog 83 as did Centennial LAC and Oasis (Palma) Currently EZY use the A319 (that has derated engines) and the A320ceo on their GVA Ski flights - a short sector but has had occasional payload issues I heard. Volotea have used the 319 for PMI and IBZ in the past - I gather again occasional tech stops needed - previously they used the Boeing 717 (was the MD-95) The most popular large aircraft seen at SOU on holiday IT's in the past was the 737-300 and 400, plus the 757-200. |
Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
(Post 11273048)
……..it wasn’t long ago that everyone thought Embraer 190 sized aircraft couldn’t be parked on the stands adjacent to the runway. Guess what, the airport made some changes and now a whole bunch of them are parked on those stands over the weekend without any affect on the runway. Things change.
The problem was that the tail fin penetrated the 1:7 slope. It may still do so to a minor extent, if so the CAA appears to have accepted this as a permitted (temporary) obstacle. |
Originally Posted by RW20
(Post 11273106)
There's every chance the runway work will not be done for a while given the bleak recession announcement.
If everyone follows the current media-driven over-hyping of doom and gloom ahead, then it becomes a self-fulflilling prophecy. Maybe that's what people want.... Hopefully the Airport will take the longer term view. |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 11273036)
Yes, A320's flew in and out for Spanair to Tenerife with a Tech stop outward at Nantes. Sorry no records of Azzura.
Spanair also used the Mad-Dog 83 as did Centennial LAC and Oasis (Palma) Currently EZY use the A319 (that has derated engines) and the A320ceo on their GVA Ski flights - a short sector but has had occasional payload issues I heard. Volotea have used the 319 for PMI and IBZ in the past - I gather again occasional tech stops needed - previously they used the Boeing 717 (was the MD-95) The most popular large aircraft seen at SOU on holiday IT's in the past was the 737-300 and 400, plus the 757-200. |
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