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Inclined to agree. Southend is a good example of Easyjet domestic routes that were claimed to be doing well by fanboys that just ended before anyone had heard of Covid.
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I see the usual suspects are still trying to get their kicks from criticising an inanimate object. Odd.
As for comparisons to other domestic routes at the likes SEN. SOU routes to the likes of GLA EDI, BHD MAN etc were seeing 6 figure or near 6 figure annual passengers a few years ago. Yes times have changed a little but I know lots of people who still travel north regularly for business. The likes of SEN never had these kind of domestic figures. As LM will never be able to cater for that amount of passengers as a result of their small planes and high prices, there is more than enough room for EZY doing one rotation a day. Look at the DUB route for example, FR started serving it at BOH yet it didn’t stop EI still serving DUB at SOU and even increasing it to twice daily. |
I see the usual suspects are still trying to get their kicks from criticising an inanimate object. Odd. |
Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
(Post 11533436)
I see the usual suspects are still trying to get their kicks from criticising an inanimate object. Odd.
As for comparisons to other domestic routes at the likes SEN. SOU routes to the likes of GLA EDI, BHD MAN etc were seeing 6 figure or near 6 figure annual passengers a few years ago. Yes times have changed a little but I know lots of people who still travel north regularly for business. The likes of SEN never had these kind of domestic figures. As LM will never be able to cater for that amount of passengers as a result of their small planes and high prices, there is more than enough room for EZY doing one rotation a day. Look at the DUB route for example, FR started serving it at BOH yet it didn’t stop EI still serving DUB at SOU and even increasing it to twice daily. |
Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
(Post 11533436)
I see the usual suspects are still trying to get their kicks from criticising an inanimate object. Odd.
As for comparisons to other domestic routes at the likes SEN. SOU routes to the likes of GLA EDI, BHD MAN etc were seeing 6 figure or near 6 figure annual passengers a few years ago. Yes times have changed a little but I know lots of people who still travel north regularly for business. The likes of SEN never had these kind of domestic figures. As LM will never be able to cater for that amount of passengers as a result of their small planes and high prices, there is more than enough room for EZY doing one rotation a day. Look at the DUB route for example, FR started serving it at BOH yet it didn’t stop EI still serving DUB at SOU and even increasing it to twice daily. This notion that both Loganair and easyJet will co-exist and grow the market is for the birds.... |
Originally Posted by SKOJB
(Post 11533460)
And there are rumours of Ryanair DUB starting up at SOU!
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No Ryanair slot applications at SOU for S24 - I think that was indeed not even a rumour, just a figment of someone’s imagination.
The easyJet slot applications have what looks to be two sunshine EJU routes with two flights per week each, so a max of four a week. Belfast increasing to five per week and Glasgow in at daily. So if all that happens, SOU will have seriously p***ed off both Loganair and Emerald who have been supporters of the airport’s recovery to get four A320s per week. No further forward, and quite possibly far worse off in the long run, I’d say. |
Originally Posted by Flightrider
(Post 11533581)
No Ryanair slot applications at SOU for S24 - I think that was indeed not even a rumour, just a figment of someone’s imagination.
The easyJet slot applications have what looks to be two sunshine EJU routes with two flights per week each, so a max of four a week. Belfast increasing to five per week and Glasgow in at daily. So if all that happens, SOU will have seriously p***ed off both Loganair and Emerald who have been supporters of the airport’s recovery to get four A320s per week. No further forward, and quite possibly far worse off in the long run, I’d say. |
You’d have thought even losing them off the routes on which easyJet competing would be bad enough - it would be a huge loss in frequency and capacity.
And you have to think that neither would be particularly inclined to do anything else at SOU if the airport has stitched them up like this. Loganair to Manchester and Emerald to Cork would be a long way off … |
All a bit premature - the slot requests need to turned into flights and then we need to see what the impact is on the incumbents.
Will EZY split the current market it or grow it? Lots of cruise pax are still being coached down to Southampton. |
Originally Posted by Flightrider
(Post 11533581)
The easyJet slot applications have what looks to be two sunshine EJU routes with two flights per week each, so a max of four a week. Belfast increasing to five per week and Glasgow in at daily. I do wonder if easyJet’s main motivation here is keeping a foot on the heads of some upcoming rivals - which is exactly what they are trying to do at Belfast City with Emerald - and AGS have fallen for this with the lure of a tiny programme of Med routes that the airport feels it has to have to demonstrate progress to the local market? |
Nice and Barcelona would be good routes, but lets see what happens. BA Cityflyer are retreating again next year and can't imagine Loganair or Emerald are too pleased with the Easyjet domestics. This could all end up a spectacular disaster for Southampton Airport. We don't need to see duplicate routes to the likes of Palma and Malaga.
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Another airline possibly flying to the med?
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
(Post 11533618)
I do wonder if easyJet’s main motivation here is keeping a foot on the heads of some upcoming rivals - which is exactly what they are trying to do at Belfast City with Emerald - and AGS have fallen for this with the lure of a tiny programme of Med routes that the airport feels it has to have to demonstrate progress to the local market?
Nice and Barcelona would be good routes, but lets see what happens. BA Cityflyer are retreating again next year and can't imagine Loganair or Emerald are too pleased with the Easyjet domestics. This could all end up a spectacular disaster for Southampton Airport. We don't need to see duplicate routes to the likes of Palma and Malaga. |
The fact that BACF have cut some routes may suggest that the tour operators who book space on these flights have instead got space on another operator who may not yet have put the route on public sale?
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Maybe there is a new player about to join the party! :ok:
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Originally Posted by stewyb
(Post 11533821)
Maybe there is a new player about to join the party! :ok:
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Originally Posted by RW20
(Post 11533830)
Jet2? Two 737-300 based next year,then 320 neo in 25?
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As SOU is not slot restricted, do all new airlines/routes have to show up on ACL applications?
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Good question - and the answer is no. An airline could theoretically pop up and announce something new without any prior signal through the slots data, then put their schedule into the system later. It's a facilitation exercise to avoid obvious conflict (e.g. international terminal arrivals capacity etc) and also to drive the data which powers the airport FIDS systems.
easyJet was one route on Mon/Thu (EJU1291/1292) and a second route on Thu/Sun (flight numbers EJU1514-1518). |
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