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pabely 18th Dec 2020 18:47

Don't take the fact that it is showing in FR24 that it will actually run, but I know what you mean.
EZY at LTN have had issues this week.

flyerguy 18th Dec 2020 18:50

There is defo 11 EZY tomorrow

BFS/FUE/AGP/LIS/MXP/EDI/PFO/LPA/TFS/PMI/ACE

Data not from FR24 so more reliable

Dannyboy39 18th Dec 2020 20:16


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10949824)
Do I detect a bit of prejudice there with that comment? There are flights all over the Europe and the U.K today if you care to look before making assumptions.

No. It was aimed at your constant anti-Eastern European agenda on this forum.

mariofly12 18th Dec 2020 22:24

Easyjet is bringing forward the start of all seasonal routes to Greece from end of March instead of the usual May/June period and extending them till end of October..Plus, there are increased frequencies for summer season..And there quite a few of them..CFU.HER,JMK,RHO,SKG,ZTH..Ι don't want to sound pessimistic but end of March is still heavy flu season/corona virus period, so the restrictions and quarantine rules will still be in place in many european countries..It's kind of a risky move which will inevitably lead--again-to cancellations. vouchers etc..And mass vaccinations won't do away with the infection risk until after a period of 6-7 months till a significant number of the european population has been vaccinated..

Buster the Bear 18th Dec 2020 22:32

So how many of the departing travellers today will take the £199 'Fit to Fly' test? How many arriving passengers travelled Covid-19 negative? The entire testing scheme for flying are scams to milk more money for the airlines and airports. With all airports and airlines desperate for income, what next, £10 to be provided with an App based ticket?

The turkey pluckers need to go back home, Wizz will do that.

LTNman 18th Dec 2020 23:43


Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 (Post 10949926)
No. It was aimed at your constant anti-Eastern European agenda on this forum.

Rubbish, it has nothing to do with being anti Eastern European but when Eastern European’s make up around 90% of Luton’s passengers on most days at the moment it is hard to ignore that fact or should I focus on the other 10%? If they were Chinese would I have an anti-Chinese agenda if I dared mention the Chinese? I guess I am lucky they are not people of colour as that would whip up hysteria with the PC brigade here.

Covid doesn’t discriminate between people so I don’t give a stuff where they were born but travelling and visiting relatives for Christmas during a pandemic is not particularly a bright thing to do when we are being told not to travel unless it is essential within the U.K although the fan boys here who get excited at the number of Wizz aircraft flying each day would disagree, which I accept. Maybe I could understand that excitement if there was a bit of variation but Luton is going to end up being a very boring airport where even the Biz jets are deserting the place.

Sometimes less is more.

davidjohnson6 19th Dec 2020 00:03


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10949615)
Many European countries have much high per capita rates than the U.K. You can see where we are on the list here https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pe-by-country/

This should possibly be on the "how Covid affects aviation" thread, but when quoting Covid case rates, one should probably think more about how many current cases of the disease there are, rather than how many cases there have been since March. The website referenced by LTNman seems to show the *cumulative* number of cases - i.e. all cases since counting began in February or March

If a large number of people were infected in September but are not infected now, that might be a good thing, since those people may (and I stress *may*) have some form of immunity and thus leads to a less-than-transparent overall picture of current risk
If you think that Luton is or soon will be a centre for cases being imported into the UK from other countries, then it should be referenced with data around *current* case rates rather than including what was happening in March/April

You can find details over the last 14 days for the UK and EU member states at
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea
Data for other countries can be found at
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geogra...019-ncov-cases

Alternatively, take a look at
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

LTNman 19th Dec 2020 00:20

Buster the Bear

Well that is the inconvenient truth. Tenerife needs a fit to fly test but there are not many other locations that do but when a certificate can cost many times the price of a ticket who is going to bother when the attraction is usually the cheap ticket.

Spanish eyes 19th Dec 2020 05:33

I have just put a covered nose into the departure lounge and it is rammed when it should have plenty of capacity with the drop in demand. The airports policy of building a shopping centre with many bars and restaurants which are all but shut has reduced the public space by around 80%.

Some people are wearing masks as chin guards while others have their noses exposed. I haven’t walked the length of the lounge but just stuck my head through a staff entrance. I don’t consider the lounge to be a safe environment so I quickly headed back down the safety of the fire escape or should it be renamed the Covid escape route. So who is pretending flying is safe apart from airport and airline management.

LTNman 19th Dec 2020 06:00

This is a scale layout of the departure lounge. The bottom is the original lounge and the top and upper left is the terminal extension, which didn’t add any seating capacity only retail and a corridor. Seating in departures is limited to the bottom middle sections with a few extra chairs dotted about. If passengers know where to go there are plenty of seats in pier B but that is not the departure lounge.

Some outlets are now gone for good including one company where the parent company went bust taking out 3 large airside restaurants. Other outlets have just quit the airport, which is a tragedy for the staff involved. Most are still there in appearance but have never reopened since March including Starbucks
https://i.imgur.com/qZqG1mS.jpg

The YouTube video is now just a memory as this space became the terminal extension which protected a little further out than the front of the terminal.

Spanish eyes 19th Dec 2020 07:02

We haven’t lost our sense of humour in the office. One wag has just reminded us of British Airways and how they claimed to be the world’s favourite airline. Now we have Wizz who are Covid’s favourite airline aided and abetted by LLA. Oh well it will soon be Christmas and yes Wizz are flying on Christmas Day which hasn’t gone down too well. Never mind lots of free time from the 28th as the airport is expecting another lockdown but then airports and its passengers are excluded so maybe not much free time as the airport never shuts.

compton3bravo 19th Dec 2020 11:37

Another extra cargo charter this morning, Swiftair B737 from Bratislava (large VW car plant there) so presumably car parts.Expect even more in the new year. Regarding working over Christmas if you are employed in certain industries ie leisure, hospitality, etc you have to accept that is part of the job. Plus don't forget nearly half the world's population do not celebrate Christmas anyway.

PAXboy 19th Dec 2020 12:21

The Flu Season was mentioned. In all liklihood, the Flu will be much reduced this year. Mainly because folks are wearing masks, not hugging and keeping their distance. If they did this every year, not so much flu. People have clamoured for flu vaccine this year but the actual need is less.

LTNman 19th Dec 2020 19:27

TUI 8:25 flight to Lanzarote tomorrow has been cancelled due to Tier 4 restrictions. There will be some unhappy people around who were thinking they were spending Christmas abroad. I feel their pain.

pabely 19th Dec 2020 21:39

Is there much of the TUi program left at any airport from tomorrow?

pabely 20th Dec 2020 10:09

Another CargoLogic in from Bratislava, EZY to AMS got canned by that is more to do with new travel rules at the other end.
A SunExpress later today.
Biz busy yesterday, Nice looks like the go to place, if you can afford it!

LTNman 20th Dec 2020 10:36

Whether you agree with it or not there was mass ignoring of the new Tier 4 rules today at Luton as travellers carried on regardless including friends of the wife who are now abroad.

The96er 20th Dec 2020 11:13

How do you know that ? We’re you there to witness it? If so, why were you there ?

Spanish eyes 20th Dec 2020 11:36

I was there. Seems that children and toddlers were making essential business trips today.

pabely 20th Dec 2020 11:43

LTNman

The same story everywhere , told the Emirates A380 from LHR to DXB was rammed this morning in Y class.


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