Thanks Jethro.
Meanwhile, JZDD entered revenue service today running a Leeds to Faro return. |
Originally Posted by P330
(Post 11620957)
Thanks Jethro.
Meanwhile, JZDD entered revenue service today running a Leeds to Faro return. |
9A-ABC also arrived @ Nqy today as LS070J
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G-JZHT, HU, BC, BE, BF, BG, BH and BH now all have the scimitar winglets installed.
Surprised to see the ex Pegasus frames have not had them fitted during entry into service. These are quite young in age so will be in the fleet for a good while, would have thought they’d have preferred to kill 2 birds with one stone so to speak. |
G-JZHP arrived on base at Liverpool today, ready to commence operations on 28th March. The second aircraft is due tomorrow, followed by the third aircraft on 27th.
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Originally Posted by Mayfield62
(Post 11623407)
G-JZBP arrived on base at Liverpool today, ready to commence operations on 28th March. The second aircraft is due tomorrow, followed by the third aircraft on 27th.
BP is currently stuck in ACE due FNC weather shenanigans. |
Originally Posted by 1889LS
(Post 11623399)
G-JZHT, HU, BC, BE, BF, BG, BH and BH now all have the scimitar winglets installed.
Surprised to see the ex Pegasus frames have not had them fitted during entry into service. These are quite young in age so will be in the fleet for a good while, would have thought they’d have preferred to kill 2 birds with one stone so to speak. |
New Base number 12 to be announced today
2 aircraft to start with. |
Originally Posted by irishlad06
(Post 11623567)
New Base number 12 to be announced today
2 aircraft to start with. |
List of destinations shwoing on Jet2holidays website with flights starting in April 2025:IBZ
PMI MAH FUE LPA ACE TFS CFU HER RHO ZTH FAO FNC ALC AYT DLM |
Unusual seeing Jet2 starting with a 2 aircraft base. They like to start with a bigger presence usually to state their dominance and allow them to do everything (handling etc) in house and be cost effective.
Selfishly though, this does give a little bit of hope that Doncaster may get a look in with Jet2 when it reopens. It would have been difficult to justify opening a large base there with the size of the operations at MAN, EMA, and, to a lesser extent, LBA taking out of the area customer pool. But with Jet2 seemingly happy to start a bit smaller and grow organically that now makes DSA a possibility. |
I’m wondering if before DSA we may see
Southend Norwich can’t see them getting enough slots at Gatwick/LTN so maybe Southend to take some of the south east away from Gatwick? |
Originally Posted by HH6702
(Post 11624048)
I’m wondering if before DSA we may see
Southend Norwich can’t see them getting enough slots at Gatwick/LTN so maybe Southend to take some of the south east away from Gatwick? |
Originally Posted by HH6702
(Post 11624048)
I’m wondering if before DSA we may see
Southend Norwich can’t see them getting enough slots at Gatwick/LTN so maybe Southend to take some of the south east away from Gatwick? Norwich is an interesting shout with their new relationship with RCA/Rigby group (who have managed to get Ryanair into Exeter and Norwich following Bournemouth). TUI have had a summer base for over 10 years now at NWI so clearly enough demand, however realistically a 1 aircraft base is the maximum NWI could support. Probably too small for Jet2 and may feel it could dilute the Stansted base, however doesn't seem to bother TUI, or Ryanair, so stranger things could happen, I mean I said Ryanair would never set foot in Norwich yet here we are. Now for me I wonder a more realistic option could be Exeter? certainly seems plausible to me. |
Originally Posted by Markushillman
(Post 11624054)
They have said if Bournemouth is successful they would look to smaller airports. Southend possibly a bit to close to Stansted but still you never know.
Norwich is an interesting shout with their new relationship with RCA/Rigby group (who have managed to get Ryanair into Exeter and Norwich following Bournemouth). TUI have had a summer base for over 10 years now at NWI so clearly enough demand, however realistically a 1 aircraft base is the maximum NWI could support. Probably too small for Jet2 and may feel it could dilute the Stansted base, however doesn't seem to bother TUI, or Ryanair, so stranger things could happen, I mean I said Ryanair would never set foot in Norwich yet here we are. Now for me I wonder a more realistic option could be Exeter? certainly seems plausible to me. |
Originally Posted by azz767
(Post 11624064)
Surely now with the fleet size small one a/c ‘bases’ if you wanted to call them that could be done on W patterns to avoid the self handling and maintenance problem. Norwich, Exeter/Newquay, Cardiff, Southend amongst others could all have a daily or couple of daily flights done on W patterns from the likes of MAN, LBA, BHX or STN. They always have a couple of spare aircraft across the fleet so couldn’t that be feasible for the smaller airports?
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Originally Posted by Markushillman
(Post 11624054)
They have said if Bournemouth is successful they would look to smaller airports. Southend possibly a bit to close to Stansted but still you never know.
Norwich is an interesting shout with their new relationship with RCA/Rigby group (who have managed to get Ryanair into Exeter and Norwich following Bournemouth). TUI have had a summer base for over 10 years now at NWI so clearly enough demand, however realistically a 1 aircraft base is the maximum NWI could support. Probably too small for Jet2 and may feel it could dilute the Stansted base, however doesn't seem to bother TUI, or Ryanair, so stranger things could happen, I mean I said Ryanair would never set foot in Norwich yet here we are. Now for me I wonder a more realistic option could be Exeter? certainly seems plausible to me. https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/jet2-b...rnemouth-45518 Would suggest that they have the U.K covered now, and growth will be focussed on the incumbents. |
Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11624074)
Sorry to be a party pooper, but they haven’t said that at all.
https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/jet2-b...rnemouth-45518 Would suggest that they have the U.K covered now, and growth will be focussed on the incumbents. |
Still hoping Humberside may feature at some point with Jet2.
We can dream! Kind regards BristolexFlyer |
Originally Posted by BristolexFlyer
(Post 11624189)
Still hoping Humberside may feature at some point with Jet2.
We can dream! Kind regards BristolexFlyer It could provide TUI with a niche though, serving local. |
Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11624195)
It could provide TUI with a niche though, serving local.
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Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11624074)
Sorry to be a party pooper, but they haven’t said that at all.
https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/jet2-b...rnemouth-45518 Would suggest that they have the U.K covered now, and growth will be focussed on the incumbents. Part of speech made by the boss of Jet2 to thtose present was a suggestion of moving into smaller airports in the UK. I saw the article on the midday news as well as this evenings. I heard it twice. If I watch the late evening broadcast at 10.35 I'll more than likely hear it said for a third time. He made note of the fact that Jet2 only serve 12 airports with the addition of Bournemouth and moving forward he would like see the company cover more of the UK. What was mentioned in the TTG article and what was said in person are obviously two different things. |
Originally Posted by Sotonsean
(Post 11624208)
On BBC South Today this evening (Tuesday 26 May) they broadcasted a lengthy piece about the announcement by Jet2 of setting up a base at Bournemouth Airport.
Part of speech made by the boss of Jet2 to thtose present was a suggestion of moving into smaller airports in the UK. I saw the article on the midday news as well as this evenings. I heard it twice. If I watch the late evening broadcast at 10.35 I'll more than likely hear it said for a third time. He made note of the fact that Jet2 only serve 12 airports with the addition of Bournemouth and moving forward he would like see the company cover more of the UK. What was mentioned in the TTG article and what was said in person are obviously two different things. |
I wonder if at some point J2 will also move into the retail market, for example buy Hays Travel, rebrand all the offices and bingo ! take TUI on head to head, this would work extremely well if J2 are talking about operating form more local airports, never say never !
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Originally Posted by Doors to...
(Post 11624217)
I wonder if at some point J2 will also move into the retail market, for example buy Hays Travel, rebrand all the offices and bingo ! take TUI on head to head, this would work extremely well if J2 are talking about operating form more local airports, never say never !
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Originally Posted by BristolexFlyer
(Post 11624189)
Still hoping Humberside may feature at some point with Jet2.
We can dream! Kind regards BristolexFlyer EXT once, used to be very busy with FCA and TCK and others. Today BOH will now see TUI base 2 x 738's for this summer, and for next summer Jet2 will also base 2 there. That is a really big expansion of package holidays available from Bournemouth. Jet2 have STN, so Southend will not likely be on their radar, plus Easyjet are slowly increasing their leisure flights from SEN. Jet2 open the LPL Base this week. Jet2 BRS is doing really well. If DSA Doncaster were to reopen then its possible that Jet2 (who are now the UK's #1 holiday Co.) may go in, and beat TUI to it. Jet2 are the ''Darlings of the North'' so it's feasible they may like to add DSA. A SOU Southampton base is a no-go due to the operational and payload limitations for the 737-800 and that is unlikely to change anytime in the future. |
Originally Posted by Markushillman
(Post 11624065)
That certainly could be a good option yes. If they are willing to do W patterns, then they will have a lot of success. Something quite telling is Norwich airport advertisement posts on Facebook for TUI with so many comments below asking for Jet2 :E
Back in the seventies when BY operated W sectors to LBA with MAN based a/c crew were, IIRC, taken from to MAN by taxi. |
Originally Posted by Airbanda
(Post 11624533)
Would a W going LBA>PMI>NWI>PMI>LBA in the current regulatory/terms conditions environment require a crew slip at NWI?
Back in the seventies when BY operated W sectors to LBA with MAN based a/c crew were, IIRC, taken from to MAN by taxi. yes it would, which is one of the Myriad of reasons why it, or anything like it wont happen. Operationally challenging for minimal incremental reward |
Still plenty of W flying happens in the UK, with TUI (HUY EXT LBA MME and ABZ) and also Easyjet do them as well.
You can use the same crew for all 4 sectors if the flight times allow for it. |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 11624586)
Still plenty of W flying happens in the UK, with TUI (HUY EXT LBA MME and ABZ) and also Easyjet do them as well.
You can use the same crew for all 4 sectors if the flight times allow for it. |
G-SUNG delivered to MAN
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Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11624602)
They won’t do it. Best case they’d reopen Spanish bases and perhaps do inbounds, but even then the whole point in having those overseas bases was to have resilience built in to the operation. Not ideal to have aircraft and crew all over the place. Just doesn’t seem feasible or beneficial.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11624823)
Could they open a Spanish base on the UK AOC nowadays?
One of the things they’re exceptionally good at is looking after the customer, so if it pays to keep them ahead in that then they might do it even if it’s not the most desirable situation from a financial and operational standpoint. |
Ryanair make it work at Stansted...
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BOH-JER?
If Jet2 ever did Jersey from Bournemouth it would be a true spiritual return to a route often run albeit by their trusty freighter Heralds and F-27’s many years ago. Would be very fitting to hear the Channex call sign on such a route.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11624834)
Ryanair make it work at Stansted...
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11625829)
That was an existing set up that was allowed to continue though, I wonder if Iberia could open a base in the UK now though?
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11625829)
That was an existing set up that was allowed to continue though, I wonder if Iberia could open a base in the UK now though?
On the basis that this allowed, why shouldn't Iberia ppen a UK base, with EU crews to serve EU destinations? |
I gather since we left the EU airlines and its crews/staff could not easily ''cross work'' amongst the old existing Bases here in the UK and in the EU (which includes Eire)
Thus we saw various airlines including Easyjet and Ryanair re register a mass of their fleets in Austria, Malta, Poland, the UK and Eire etc, plus basing what were once UK aircraft now overseas. Both companies set up EU divisions. This year TUI has set up Fly4, a joint venture for ACMI/sub charter flying with Enter Air. Headquartered in Ireland. It's all a convoluted deal to get around the EU workplace and EASA rules. I doubt Iberia could now set up a LHR base, likewise nor could BA at say, MAD. |
Which doesn't explain why Ryanair have numerous UK bases with Irish registered aircraft.
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