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LiamNCL 8th Dec 2023 18:50

Looks like TUI have dropped Hurghada for S24 with it resuming again in W24. Leaves a spare slot Tuesday and Friday PM

HH6702 8th Dec 2023 20:16


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 11553704)
Looks like TUI have dropped Hurghada for S24 with it resuming again in W24. Leaves a spare slot Tuesday and Friday PM


have you got a timetable already worked out which you could post or email me please ?

hopefully it will be something new but most likely more Turkish or Spanish flights

LiamNCL 8th Dec 2023 22:31


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 11553732)
have you got a timetable already worked out which you could post or email me please ?

hopefully it will be something new but most likely more Turkish or Spanish flights

Yes i have mocked a timetable up months ago when S24 got announced and have updated it tonight. AYT all on TUI aircraft now after originally having some 3rd party operations. Some interesting situations that need resolved though like Wednesday Afternoon departures, there is 5x departures in the afternoon but the morning LCA departs 8am so wont return before those 5x PM Departures & Saturday PM showing 6 Afternoon departures on TUI aircraft.

highwideandugly 9th Dec 2023 17:58

Lots of diversions due wind tonight…anyone explain why a major airport! Like Newcastle can’t seem to accept more than a couple of those diversions …to help partner airlines out?

Chesty Morgan 9th Dec 2023 18:33

Not enough stands.

ezyBoh 9th Dec 2023 18:37


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 11554107)
Lots of diversions due wind tonight…anyone explain why a major airport! Like Newcastle can’t seem to accept more than a couple of those diversions …to help partner airlines out?

The airport will have its own scheduled services and the staff will be assigned to these flights. There isn't an infinite number of staff for lots of extra flights so a limit has to be set. Obviously in extreme circumstances if you need to land, then you land. Then there is the issue of possible ground transportation for pax and crews to their original destination. Again there isn't an infinite number of coaches etc, especially at night. Drivers are limited by hours so may have worked their permitted number of hours.

SWBKCB 9th Dec 2023 18:59


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 11554107)
Lots of diversions due wind tonight…anyone explain why a major airport! Like Newcastle can’t seem to accept more than a couple of those diversions …to help partner airlines out?

Were there lots? Looks like single figures from MAN and LBA, of which Newcastle took it's fair share.

And the answer is the same as it always is whenever the question gets asked.

highwideandugly 9th Dec 2023 19:05

I’m sure a few years ago..ash clouds days..17 ish JET 2 diversions? Maybe my memory!

BA B747s etc ,Emirates etc..

But wonder on a quiet Saturday night what the reasons are ..that’s all!
Sorry for Fuerteventura to Leeds passengers ..all the way to Edinburgh!

Whatever happened to customer services! Maybe the extra revenue isn’t worth it?

SWBKCB 9th Dec 2023 19:19

If FR24 is correct, there wer 6 divs from MAN and 5 from LBA - NCL took 3, EDI 2, LHR 2 (including the MAN SHT returning), EMA 1, STN 1 (G-NEWG returning) MAN 1 (KLM from LBA!) and LGW 1 (a Lufty), so NCL took more than anywhere else and airports nearer than NCL took less (though LPL and EMA had similar winds).

Exceptional circumstances such as the ash cloud are different, as ezyBoh has explained.

tictack67 10th Dec 2023 07:36


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11554131)
If FR24 is correct, there wer 6 divs from MAN and 5 from LBA - NCL took 3, EDI 2, LHR 2 (including the MAN SHT returning), EMA 1, STN 1 (G-NEWG returning) MAN 1 (KLM from LBA!) and LGW 1 (a Lufty), so NCL took more than anywhere else and airports nearer than NCL took less (though LPL and EMA had similar winds).

Exceptional circumstances such as the ash cloud are different, as ezyBoh has explained.

FR shows EDI took 4 Leeds diverts, and a SK CPH-DUB earlier the day

SWBKCB 10th Dec 2023 07:44


Originally Posted by tictack67 (Post 11554266)
FR shows EDI took 4 Leeds diverts, and a SK CPH-DUB earlier the day

Yes, three late evening RYR divs from LBA after my original post.

tictack67 10th Dec 2023 07:58


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11554269)
Yes, three late evening RYR divs from LBA after my original post.

EDI also took a Jet2 from FUE-LBA, NCL didn't take the most diverts in the end, in fact EDI did.

GeordieFlyer81 10th Dec 2023 10:46


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 11553778)
Yes i have mocked a timetable up months ago when S24 got announced and have updated it tonight. AYT all on TUI aircraft now after originally having some 3rd party operations. Some interesting situations that need resolved though like Wednesday Afternoon departures, there is 5x departures in the afternoon but the morning LCA departs 8am so wont return before those 5x PM Departures & Saturday PM showing 6 Afternoon departures on TUI aircraft.

The Albastar PMI rotation on Mondays has also been removed, with TUI operated service added in the AM.

Looking at programme, so timing changes inevitable.

SWBKCB 10th Dec 2023 10:49


Originally Posted by GeordieFlyer81 (Post 11554354)
The Albastar PMI rotation on Mondays has also been removed, with TUI operated service added in the AM.

Looking at programme, so timing changes inevitable.

So what's the current state of play with TUI based a/c for next summer now?

GeordieFlyer81 10th Dec 2023 11:11

Still 5 based 737 and part based 787, just some re-jig of timings I suspect.

Jamesair1 13th Dec 2023 15:38

JET 2 are extending the season for VERONA flights for summer 24 and 25.




CR. JET2 website

HH6702 14th Dec 2023 17:42

Airport timetable
 
The above has been updated to show Summer 2024

Jamesair1 25th Dec 2023 07:35

MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to all on here and hoping that we have a lot of news to get excited about at NCL in 2024.

HH6702 25th Dec 2023 15:36


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11562063)
MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to all on here and hoping that we have a lot of news to get excited about at NCL in 2024.


same to you.
yes hopefully be a exciting year with lots of positives

JonnyH 28th Dec 2023 07:06

G-NEOT has been stuck here for 8 days now which is pretty unusual. What’s up with it?

CabinCrewe 28th Dec 2023 15:51

they quite often reduce schedules and keep aircraft grounded over festive period, maybe just that?

SWBKCB 28th Dec 2023 18:26

Airport have announced EZY to Alicante for next summer

MARKEYD 28th Dec 2023 18:52

This was announced back in November with EasyJet have they only just got the news ?

GrahamK 29th Dec 2023 06:12


Originally Posted by JonnyH (Post 11563144)
G-NEOT has been stuck here for 8 days now which is pretty unusual. What’s up with it?

Very broken

Jamesair1 5th Jan 2024 15:43

Emirates reporting that GLA and NCL top its UK list for forward bookings in 2024 with GLA up 66% and NCL up 56%........might we see additional frequencies?

cr. Travel Weekly

SWBKCB 5th Jan 2024 15:54

I would imagine they are both still catching up on the others get those increases - NCL certainly re-started later than elsewhere and GLA have moved up to the 380.

NCL's DXB figures for OCT 23 were about 1,200 up on OCT 19 and 5,000 on OCT 22.

Positive news though

CabinCrewe 5th Jan 2024 18:47

EDI slots would be the half-way house to gain capacity for both zones

SWBKCB 5th Jan 2024 19:01


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11569135)
EDI slots would be the half-way house to gain capacity for both zones

Don't think it's needed at the mo.

GrahamK 6th Jan 2024 06:24


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11569135)
EDI slots would be the half-way house to gain capacity for both zones

Think we'll see double daily at GLA before that happens

Jamesair1 6th Jan 2024 07:33

I'm sure you're right but there were posts on here a few months ago, saying that Emirates had applied for extra slots at NCL for 2024.

FRatSTN 6th Jan 2024 09:44


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 11569387)
Think we'll see double daily at GLA before that happens

I'm not so sure. Wouldn't be surprised to see a single daily 777 at EDI along with the daily A380 at GLA. I'd have thought if EK were committed to reinstating the second daily GLA flight they'd have done so by now. Every other UK station has now been at pre-Covid capacity for some time.

Flightrider 6th Jan 2024 15:42

I would be surprised if you saw any meaningful growth from EK at any of GLA, NCL or EDI before 2025. A380 fleet constraints with wing spar inspections means that the fleet is nowhere near back to full capacity and the 777s are heavily tasked as a result. As and when you see some new airframes joining the fleet and the A380s coming back in meaningful numbers, you're likely to have a splurge of growth at that time - but it's over a year away, from what I'm told.

highwideandugly 21st Jan 2024 18:30

I see the NE airports are stepping up to the plate tonight in order to help the many aircraft looking for somewhere to land in these awful conditions 🤔

highwideandugly 21st Jan 2024 18:57

Must have heard me!😀

SWBKCB 21st Jan 2024 19:04


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 11580599)
I see the NE airports are stepping up to the plate tonight in order to help the many aircraft looking for somewhere to land in these awful conditions 🤔

Wrong thread

highwideandugly 21st Jan 2024 19:39

Pity The airport has a minimalistic view on diversions! Could pay a few wages down the line!

ash666 22nd Jan 2024 04:26

KLM, Ryanair, Jet2.... no problem.
BA - cancelled.

Why is NCL the first airport on the list that BA cancels at the first hint of a problem?
I can't believe LHR has worse conditions that here.

ib26uk 22nd Jan 2024 05:55

I'm at Glasgow Airport waiting for an easyJet to Gatwick and all BA services are cancelled here too

SWBKCB 22nd Jan 2024 06:11

This isn't a NCL issue but is common to all the big network providers and especially those in slotted constrained airports where it is more difficult to slot in diverted/re-arranged flights than the quieter regional airports (but as this is the NCL thread RYR have cancelled DUB last night and this morning and KLM AMS later),

The theory is to try and maintain the network by having aircraft/crew in the right place at the right time, so you cancel routes where there are multiple flights a day (so pax can be rebooked) or alternative means of transport (so road/rail), which means that short, especially domestic flights are top of the list.

This is less of an option for Jet2/RYR/EZY where at this time of year especially they may be operating just a few flights a week between regional airports where there are fewer alternatives.

Looking at FR24, RYR had a DUB flight end up in BOD and three EDI flts in CGN, and Jet2 had a BFS flt in CDG.

highwideandugly 22nd Jan 2024 06:28

Still some strange diversions!
Apparently..
Newcastle only accept 2 under normal circumstances 30 ish stands..probably could have done more last night to help some very sweaty pilots
and passengers?


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