Football - far east tour

D and half of E have been in use since the new hall opened. D is a single row of desks whereas E has 2 banks. The second half of E is across the main thoroughfare to security and is now behind hoarding.

-The Right Hon.
—-—-The Lord Viscount Vickers,

My Lord, do you have more information on the Singapore suspensions and does it include the Houston tag or has that been rerouted via elsewhere .

How long is the suspension and when are future bookings reopening , indeed are they already open?

Can’t remember COVID19 times excluded when they ever cut the service entirely.

Think the lowest I remember were SQ327/328 via Munich dropping to three weekly

I'm sure that I read on Twitter thar SQ are updating raher than suspending their winter schedule from/through Manchester.

I hope that's right. Tried various dates Dec/Jan/Feb for MAN-SIN on their web site and it comes up as no flights.
Both SIN & IAH then reappear the beginning of April. (SIN as 5 x weekly, not sure if it's the same for IAH).

[QUOTE=Bbtengineer;11258655]I feel a little bit of over sensitivity here.

There really is no learning curve for cabin crew.

Asking chicken or beef really is just asking chicken or beef.

Sure there are safety aspects but absolutely
none of them have ever actual conducted a real evac - see safety record.

So what we’re left with is who is more likely to to be efficient and friendly and the honest answer is somebody who has had less time to become bored and frustrated with a hard, repetitive and poorly paid job.

That is actually more likely to be a 38 year old than a 58 year old, because cabin crew are real people too.

Disclosure: on the old end of that scale myself.[/QUOTE

Poorly paid job, wouldn’t say pulling between £2.500 and £3000 a month after tax is poorly paid..

Mr Rutan - courtesy of I think Aero Route - I may be wrong on this one but I saw it somewhere online:Published at 1510GMT 07JUL22

Singapore Airlines this week continues to file schedule and inventory changes for Northern winter 2022/23 season, effective 30OCT22. On Singapore – Manchester – Houston route, the Star Alliance carrier temporary closed bookings for travel for the period of 04NOV22 – 18JAN23. First available flight for booking during Northern winter 2022/23 season is 20JAN23, as of Thursday 07JUL22.

Previously highlighted, despite timetable listing shows 5 weekly flights with Airbus A350-900XWB, only 4 flights are available for booking.

SQ052 SIN0210 – 0835MAN1005 – 1425IAH 359 x146
SQ051 IAH1850 – 0930+1MAN1100+1 – 0755+1SIN 359 x146

Further adjustments can be expected.

"On Singapore – Manchester – Houston route, the Star Alliance carrier temporary closed bookings for travel for the period of 04NOV22 – 18JAN23"
Yes, it does say 'temporary' closed bookings. I would have thought that was a busy period for potential travellers so maybe they are just sorting out frequencies and a/c availability. Those timings are the same as before covid as I recall.

It would make no sense to shun the lucrative peak-demand Christmas / New Year traffic on the Kangaroo route? That's when the big money rolls in - unless crazed politicians get to play 'covid saviour' again. Hopefully new capacity put on sale soon.

BA seem to have dropped MAN-LGW from end of this month. No surprise, astonished they even brought it back to simply feed LGW-ISB.

The only change at the moment appears to be that apart from a couple of dates around Christmas the proposed 5th weekly service has been pushed back from end of October to end of March 2023. Otherwise it appears the present 4x weekly services continue without a break. Having said that the flights are still closed for sale so perhaps more changes are coming....

LGW-ISB has also now been dropped according to the BA thread so this explains why MAN-LGW has been dropped.

Delta B764 on its way in from Atlanta today & departing tomorrow to Houston. A bit unusual- but a welcome return seeing Delta back at MAN- even if its a one off. Don't know if it still wears the BCRF pink livery.

Delta B764
 

It's taking Manchester City F C on their pre season tour in the USA.

This post in itself shows a degree of ignorance or lack of knowledge of the role of cabin crew. The safety aspect of the role does not end at the safety demonstration even if it rarely ends at an evacuation. There are safety related roles in between the two that are completed on a daily basis, namely safety equipment and security related checks which I won’t elaborate on.

On top of that, you have medical incidents on a semi regular basis for which crew are trained for. I don’t subscribe to the notion that being cabin crew is akin to rocket science but it’s more than the general public realise.

I do also think the notion that cabin crew are poorly paid is somewhat overplayed. I’m senior and take home around 2.5k after tax but my junior colleagues (outside their first year which admittedly isn’t great) take home around 2k.

Can I assume the salary referred to is monthly? In which case, when I retired, 7 years ago, as a corporate travel agent, that would be twice my pay.

I personally know of at least 2 instances of cabin crew saving passengers lives while in flight. And I’m sure there are many many more.

Safety is not just about the evacuation.

At my carrier our pay is made up of…

Basic salary
Sector pay
Commission

The last two elements are variable and will depend on how busy I am but my take home is usually between 2.3k and 2.6k per month after tax.

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At my previous airline I would be taking home almost £3k a month as a senior. And at that airline I had numerous medicals, and ‘incidents’ where I was deemed unlucky to work with!

My current airline I’m lucky to take home £1500 pcm. I certainly don’t do this role for the money.. but for the love of the role.
Many friends at many airlines I know are open that they are now on Universal Credit to top them up and get them to end of the month.

You’ll never be a millionaire doing our job that is true but there are way more lower paid roles than ours.

For what I do, I feel I’m reasonably well paid. That’s not to say I don’t think I need a pay rise. Lol.