Ha Ha
and so true
Perceptions based on a drip drip of right wing propaganda much subliminal and associated vested interests to hate on the foreigner and distract from domestic policies and continued erosion of EVERY Ones rights and freedoms

Some else’s fault never underused by right :ugh:

Glad we are back to Manchester chat and are avoiding political diatribes :ok:

Please take this sort of thing to JetBlast. P L E A S E
https://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/647715-uk-politics-hamsterwheel-mk-iv-59.html
https://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/471033-eu-politics-hamsterwheel-234.html

Some quite offensive stuff appearing on here now. The notion that anybody who doesn't embrace hard left politics is some kind of racist inclined to "hate on the foreigner" is patently untrue and has no place in civilised debate. There is a cross-section of political representation on this forum. Please show some respect and tolerance towards those who hold views which differ from your own.

I apologise, but in no way for the actions of far right !
The vast majority of the UK people live somewhere in the centre ground to be honest ( me included ) except for our press ( the published media largely owned by an Australian Republican, a family long linked to fascism and a bl***y Russian Oligarch.)

True Blue sorry if I offended your sensibilities

Airside at the airport
 

Quick question. My family are flying out next week from the airport and were wondering if you can use Euros airside once through security. I’ve tried looking on the airport website but the chatbot is neither use nor ornament and there are no humans to ask until Monday morning.

The disconnect here is looking at data versus narrative.

If we look at the published UK Employment Participation Rate, it has only been higher in one year out of the last 50. Yes we absolutely have full employment. Fortunately we don’t measure that in baggage handlers we look at the whole economy.

My inflation comment was forward looking. It is far more instructive to look at PPI if you want to see where CPI is heading, especially when people are commenting on 2024. PPI has started to decline. See Office for National Statistics.

The problem with looking at the current narrative rather than directly at the best data is that we are left with the conclusion that because it looks bad now it can only ever get worse.

If that was true, the world would have ended many times over. The really good news is that it didn’t.

Is it only me that sees the irony in this post?

Mr alarm technician- There is veracity to the decay in inflation in later 2023 however it may well be product of massive DECLINE in peoples spending power and a result of the changed trajectory of under employment to rising unemployment!

Such mechanisms would reduce the inflation rate

There is a reason why typical rates of 4-5 % is the median average unemployment rate , this level squeezes wage rate bargaining by the employees and returns the advantages back to the employers .

Said as much up stream about the handlers .

What isn’t cured is the supply chain issues , the massive decline in sterling , and the primary labour shortages in certain sectors or the matching of the geographic issues previously referred to in the wider economy.

It also doesn’t help those facing excruciating energy cost increases does it ?

If you are determined to portray negative outcomes then you will find a way to do it.

With the relationship between employment and inflation you are referring to the Phillips curve and all I will do is note that since this was published it has been debunked by more than a handful of Nobel prize winning economists.

I will stop there. We don’t have to agree.

Well you do seem to be the only one posting to this effect! 😀

In the majority of outlets yes but be prepared to be stung on exchange rate, You are looking at 15-20% loss in value compared to market rate

In the majority of outlets yes. but be prepared to lose circa 15-20% on the exchange rate compared to market rate

Not sure why you would think of using foreign cash in the UK as you are sure to be ripped off, and surely those Euro notes are best kept for the Eurozone.

Just remember when you are using your bank or credit cards abroad always be sure to opt to pay in local currency, never let the vendor use the Sterling option as you can pay a lot more in Sterling terms.

The complicating factor here is that UK card providers then impose a hefty "Non-Sterling Transaction Fee". As customers, we get ripped off whatever we do!

Not necessarily. Depends who you bank with.

Just throw it out there as a punter, had we joined the Euro you’d just be subject to 0.2% on goods or 0.3% charge on a EU card in another member state anywhere within the zone . No guessing no gambling and no money extraction by banks and fluctuations; still we didn’t so joe public gets fleeced.

As others have said could those wishing to discuss "non-aviation" matter please take if to Jetblast?

I keep looking for MAN related news and am getting more disappointed when I discover the new post has, it would appear, little to do with the airport or the airlines and routes being served.

Thank you, I know you are all passionate about our airport so could we keep discussion to that subject?

Here Here!

My decision to not rush into advance bookings for leisure air travel this Winter lest they prove more hassle than they're worth is already looking inspired. Crazed politicians in Germany have just extended mandatory bemuzzlement aboard aircraft, inter-city trains and coaches through to April 2023. They're insisting on only high-spec muzzles too. No Christmas Markets booking for me this year, then.

I expect that governments in a number of other jurisdictions will also succumb to irrational panic and indulge the urge to play 'saviour' as Winter approaches. I will limit my bookings to destinations unaffected by this madness. If there are any.

Anybody know where the "Manchester" thread is?

If you're referring to my latest post, it doesn't refer to or criticise any individual who has posted on here. It does address the likely impact of new covid restrictions on air travel demand this Winter. I think that's both relevant and fundamentally important to how the airport will perform this Winter. I respect your right to disagree (if you do), but this is a discussion forum and I don't apologise for discussing key issues affecting the season ahead.

You know exactly what you are doing - oh well. :ok:

If FFP2 masks being mandatory stops anyone booking its pretty pathetic.

It's also worth pointing out that these German rules will only come into force should case numbers breach agreed thresholds.

If being compelled to wear a constrained FFP2 mask is mandated on German flights and almost nowhere else, it absolutely will have a commercial impact as consumers know they have similar easier choices elsewhere.
I enjoy North America and am off to JFK in November, I ruled out Canada for this exact reason.

It's not pathetic. They're darned uncomfortable and of questionable efficacy. If I'm travelling for pleasure then they negate the whole point of the trip. I want a vacation, not an ordeal. It's my money. I'm not spending it to re-enter covidworld. I'm not alone in thinking this way. I'll choose destinations where mindless mandates of this sort do not apply. If you're fine with them, make your bookings accordingly. But the potential market size is reduced substantially by measures such as this. This is why German carriers are distraught about this development.

If planning for a (hopefully) undisrupted leisure trip, it is also worth keeping in mind that governments which impose bemuzzlement are simultaneously the most likely to reimpose testing requirements at short notice. So Germany bookings are a NO from me TFN.

Cuba Direct holidays and a few smaller brands have clubbed together to operate a new route from Manchester to Cayo Coco and Holguin on a triangle based routing this winter.

They will use a HiFly A339 and operate on Wednesdays until at least May 2023.

Courtesy of Wingtips in another place ( credit his words)

Good to see a Thomas Cook favourite being restored

Quick question if anyone knows. Can 757’s use the contact stands on the far side of the T2 pier?

Its only jet2 that have them now but if they use T2 they either use the older T2 gates or the pier stands on the near side that usually have wide-bodies on.

I know A321’s can and have used the stands on the far side of the pier so would have though 757’s would be ok there.

No, they can't. The stands 101-111 are ICAO 'Code C' for a maximum wingspan of 36m. B757s have a 38m span or 41m with winglets, if I remember correctly.

Thanks

They are far too long as well. The wingtip to tail clearance on Zulu Orange with a A321 parked on the stand is eye wateringly close, never mind a 757!

Interesting, is this a new thing? Zulu Orange and Blue using colours rather than the more intuitive November and Sierra to denote North and South? Any other UK airfield have something similar? Stansted has East, Central and West lines in the aprons.

I had some involvement with this during my time on MAN-TP. Using cardinal points at MAN is problematic because the airfield doesn't sit conveniently on an East-West axis like Heathrow and Gatwick and has a generally more random taxiway layout than Stansted. Blue & Orange sub-centrelines were already established at airports like CDG, MUC, FRA and a few others, so it was decided to follow some existing practice. Furthermore they were adopted by EASA as a recognsed 'means of compliance' during a revision of aerodrome design standards in 2016 or 2017, I forget exactly when. It works well. The same revision also allowed closer clearances between aircraft wingtips and obstacles along taxiway routes.

Skipness - Stansted has a blue line on Alpha middle. In daylight it helps prevent large cargo types (more than 36m wingspan) allocated stands A1 to A9 inadvertently using the east line which is limited to 36m wingspan due to the adjacent rear of stand road. At night the green centreline lights can be independently selected so the correct line is followed..

Great info, thanks all! I well remember the problems with Manchester's alignment when Air China Cargo was once told by ATC to push and face "Wythenshawe".

More than once. And then some more. It didn't end well....Utterly lost in translation.

Lufthansa 787 diverting in now.

A350 actually (Munich-Charlotte LH428)

Thanks for the correction. Is it medical? Or tech?

Local chatter suggests medical

Not sure who handles Iberia these days, but this is a bit of an epic fail. No checked bags loaded on flight MAN-MAD
Flight was Sunday & Iberia say no worries, bags will come on Wednesday.
If you were connecting via MAD I'd be pretty miffed, especially when often checked bags cost more than a passenger seat these days.

https://simpleflying.com/iberia-leav...box=1663251268