O'Leary has a point tho. Public transport between airports and homes is pretty much unrestricted. Badly applied social distancing, sometimes non existent.
If there's a scientific reason to quarantine international arrivals (which remains to be proven), the purpose is pretty much defeated the moment you mix with public transport. My view is that the 3 weeks review will take us to the end of June when it will be relaxed. Ryanair and others have decided they want to restart in July and that's what'll happen. |
Superb news for the long term health of our country. With massed migration and a huge increase in population over the last 20 years, no wonder the NHS is under stress! Biggest risk to any country, is via importing Covid-19.
As of June 8th the UK is open. Just need to isolate for 14 days on arrival. Why is that a problem? Only answer if it does not involve my 'holibobs are ruined', or 'travel is vital'. With approaching 40,000 deaths attributed to a new virus, lives or holidays? French took to their easing of lockdown by flooding beaches. Magaluf could become a hotspot, with little or no facilities in place to treat Covid! Airlines, airports and associated supported infrastructures are replaceable, whilst a life taken due to Covid, is sadly not. |
One thing I dont understand is, its taken 12 days from announcing the quarantine on bojo's Sunday brief to announcing it again today and now its another 17 days before implementing.
Can anyone explain that how that if this is a vital protection why is it taking 29 days for it to happen? Other countries have closed borders overnight or within 48 hours. All this whilst the man who is really pulling the strings of the prime minister can't follow his own lockdown instructions. We really are becoming a laughing stock of a nation. |
Buster, 14 days isolation is no good to me if I need to conduct some personal business in the UK just for a few days!
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
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Superb news for the long term health of our country. With massed migration and a huge increase in population over the last 20 years, no wonder the NHS is under stress! Biggest risk to any country, is via importing Covid-19.
Travel has assisted the NHS in getting staff trained elsewhere. |
Our immigrants are generally younger than the rest of the population. The only NHS service they use is maternity. On the other hand, our elderly expats are a major drain on the Spanish health services. They will be glad that, come January 2021, our ehic cards wont be valid.
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So the argument is that because people have to get from the airport to home by some form of transport the quarantine is pointless. Seems to be a pointless argument to me as once they have reached home they should not be able to spread it further.
Either people want to get rid of this virus or they don’t. O’Leary isn’t even a UK citizen so who cares what he has to say anyway when his only concern is filling his aircraft and not the death rates in a foreign country like the UK. |
My view is that the 3 weeks review will take us to the end of June when it will be relaxed. Ryanair and others have decided they want to restart in July and that's what'll happen. The arguement for not having quarantine earlier is that the level of infection in the population was so high that the amount imported made little difference and the greater good was allowing people to repatriate. Once the general level of infection becomes low enough, the possibility of a 'second wave' due to imported infection becomes significant and so needs to be controlled. |
Originally Posted by Gurnard
(Post 10790225)
People arriving from the Channel Islands won't need to self-isolate, but don't think you can go on holiday there. Arrivals in the Channel Islands need to self-isolate for 14 days - in Guernsey until at least the 31st August - and probably later.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
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Either people want to get rid of this virus or they don’t.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
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The arguement for not having quarantine earlier is that the level of infection in the population was so high that the amount imported made little difference and the greater good was allowing people to repatriate. Once the general level of infection becomes low enough, the possibility of a 'second wave' due to imported infection becomes significant and so needs to be controlled. |
Originally Posted by bmaviscount
(Post 10790518)
Have they specified the 31st August?
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Messages from the UK Government have been so mixed recently, nobody has a clue to what's going on.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10790485)
Either people want to get rid of this virus or they don’t. O’Leary isn’t even a UK citizen so who cares what he has to say anyway when his only concern is filling his aircraft and not the death rates in a foreign country like the UK.
There is a somewhat insular perspective being taken within this thread, |
Originally Posted by stormin norman
(Post 10790614)
Messages from the UK Government have been so mixed recently, nobody has a clue to what's going on.
A spineless incompetent Govt from the top down is destroying not just the airline industry but the whole economy by making it up as they go along. |
A spineless incompetent Govt from the top down is destroying not just the airline industry but the whole economy by making it up as they go along. |
Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
(Post 10790299)
Superb news for the long term health of our country. With massed migration and a huge increase in population over the last 20 years, no wonder the NHS is under stress! Biggest risk to any country, is via importing Covid-19.
With approaching 40,000 deaths attributed to a new virus, lives or holidays? French took to their easing of lockdown by flooding beaches. Magaluf could become a hotspot, with little or no facilities in place to treat Covid! Airlines, airports and associated supported infrastructures are replaceable, whilst a life taken due to Covid, is sadly not. Meanwhile over in Greece and probably followed in other countries they are testing all arrivals for COVID19 and once you get your results you are free to enter the country. This is what the UK should be adapting now not some aviation and tourism strangling policy which the government are yet to support. When industry experts are calling for this to be over turned it speaks volumes about how **** the policy really is. Too little, too late. |
Most countries is Europe have had a strategy and they have stuck with it, whether it be Sweden with no lockdown or Spain & Italy with a strict lockdown. They all seem to be in better shape at the moment than the UK. The UK have changed their strategy too often and it doesn't instill confidence. They need to get the balance right between saving lives, getting the economy moving & keeping the population onside. Why they haven't gone down the 'air bridge path despite some positive talk about them from Ministers is another case of inept leadership.
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Why they haven't gone down the 'air bridge path despite some positive talk about them from Ministers is another case of inept leadership. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
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I note that everyone here have all the answers and are all experts on the subject of Covid 19. And there I was thinking it was a new virus with no rule book or manual to fall back on. Hindsight is always a wonderful thing but I do agree that the UK borders should have been closed in February even through the normal suspects would have all complained that it was an over reaction, that would damage the economy and tell the world we were closed for business.
Does anyone know what the significance of the 8th June is? Or is it just another date plucked out of the air? I cant for the life of me understand why it wasn't implemented when announced rather than 29 days later. With everything that was being shown from those countries I doubt you would have had many complaints at an early decisive lockdown. I see the tit for tat has now started with the French saying any country who quarantines their arrivals will have the complement repaid. |
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