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LGS6753 17th Oct 2018 16:47

Wow airlines
 
From Blue Swan:

WOW air to suspend five US routes
WOW air made the following changes to Reykjavik–US service, according to a 16-Oct-2018 GDS inventory and timetable display:

Cincinnati: Four times weekly service to be discontinued from 26-Oct-2018;
Cleveland: Three times weekly service to be discontinued from 25-Oct-2018;
Dallas/Fort Worth: Three times weekly service to be discontinued from 26-Oct-2018;
New York JFK: Daily service to be discontinued from 26-Oct-2018;
St Louis: Three times weekly service to be discontinued from 06-Jan-2019.
For all routes, WOW air does not plan to resume seasonal service in 2019.

VickersVicount 5th Nov 2018 11:50

Wow to become Wow by Icelandair
(or maybe, Wow i wish we hadnt bothered)

billyg 5th Nov 2018 11:57

ICE have put a swift end to the increasing duplication of their routes by WOW. Only a matter of time until the purple planes are no more !

inOban 5th Nov 2018 12:24

Perhaps a moderator could join these posts with the existing WOW Airlines thread?

davidjohnson6 5th Nov 2018 13:06

So WOW Air shareholders will get 5.4 % of the value of Icelandair in return for selling their shares. Not zero but says to me that WOW Air was deemed a near worthless company. I'm guessing WOW Air management knew their company was near bankruptcy and a deal was done to avoid the heavily-tourism-dependent Icelandic economy having a major shock from loss of confidence and decline in visitor numbers

SealinkBF 5th Nov 2018 17:55

Sold for €18m. That certainly indicates a troubled airline.

CaptainProp 5th Nov 2018 18:15

When I read the headline in the news I thought, “probably a smart move or they could both end up struggle through winter, competition and oil likely climbing over coming 4-6 month”.... As already stated above, the price indicates the sale of a company with a tough future. Good for all in the two companies if this makes the resulting company stronger and more viable.

CP

MCDU2 5th Nov 2018 22:30

Aviation history shows that Icelandic airlines tend to have an almost uncanny knack of reinventing themselves. Shame for the investors that lose their shirts but hey ho it would appear to be a national past time up there.

Peter47 6th Nov 2018 07:30

KEF is ideally placed as a hub and I would expect it to continue as such (although the infrastructure is getting tight). Whether it makes sense to operate two brands along side each other is questionable. You want to maximise the number of available connections which points to there being a single operator, although there is no reason why there can't be a WOW style low cost section in each aircraft. Then again Qantas & Jetstar operate as separate brands and I believe codeshare. Makes life confusing for the punter though.

Buster the Bear 6th Nov 2018 18:59

WOW operate Airbus, whilst Icelandair Boeing. Huge costs as a result of duplication.

snn20 27th Nov 2018 21:33

As we spak, 4 aircraft are being flown to SNN and LDE for storage, 2x a330 and 2x a320. News sources reporting that the deal with Icelandair could be in doubt : https://grapevine.is/news/2018/11/26...y-in-jeopardy/
Also an email from Wow air to shareholders can be viewed here : https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/w...ondholders.pdf

Buster the Bear 28th Nov 2018 18:37

https://onemileatatime.com/wow-air-cancels-us-flights/

Copenhagen 29th Nov 2018 08:26

Icelandair have decided not to acquire WOW.

https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...d.html?print=1

compton3bravo 29th Nov 2018 12:25

That's it then, just a matter of time unfortunately.

EastMids 29th Nov 2018 12:45

I hate to see any airline struggling because there are careers, livelihoods and travel plans involved but its going to be challenging for WOW air over the next few months...
  • A fifth of the fleet returned to lessors - maybe not a bad thing given the cutbacks it is making
  • Several US and European routes dropped or frequencies reduced - Europe-US is the airline's primary business proposition
  • Doubt an uncertainty spread by the failed acquisition and statements by the airline about its financial position
  • Winter slow period on the north Atlantic coming up

Hotel Tango 29th Nov 2018 13:18

Yep, it doesn't give the public confidence booking with them and it all spirals out of control from there. Knowing what I do about their situation I certainly wouldn't go and book a ticket with them now.

snn20 29th Nov 2018 17:17

Those aircraft were taken off Wow by the lessors, they had gotten word that the ICE deal was off..that’s why SIS positioned directly from Milan to shannon without operating the return to KEF

Copenhagen 29th Nov 2018 19:40

Flagging how the health of its airlines could affect Iceland’s economy, the central bank said this month a 14 percent fall in the value of the krona against the dollar since September was “due to some extent to temporary uncertainty about domestic airline WOW air’s financing.”

https://in.reuters.com/article/us-wo...-idINKCN1NY1CQ

This is getting serious - Wow’s problems have resulted in the Islandic currency falling 14%. Iceland sure likes flying close to the sun way too often.


snn20 29th Nov 2018 19:56


Originally Posted by Copenhagen (Post 10323921)
Flagging how the health of its airlines could affect Iceland’s economy, the central bank said this month a 14 percent fall in the value of the krona against the dollar since September was “due to some extent to temporary uncertainty about domestic airline WOW air’s financing.”

https://in.reuters.com/article/us-wo...-idINKCN1NY1CQ

This is getting serious - Wow’s problems have resulted in the Islandic currency falling 14%. Iceland sure likes flying close to the sun way too often.


Wow airs handler at KEF Airport Associates has laid off 237 staff this evening.

CKT789 29th Nov 2018 21:47

https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ent-1027768928

Lifeline thrown....

Cyrano 14th Dec 2018 09:02

WOW Air lays off 111 staff, cuts fleet from 20 to 11 aircraft, and cuts LAX and DEL routes from January: https://www.icelandreview.com/news/w...off-111-today/

airbourne 14th Dec 2018 19:29

Update by WOW on their future.

WOW air is restructuring and going back to its roots
Reykjavik, Iceland – December 13, 2018

After a challenging year, WOW air is now restructuring and simplifying its operations to return to its roots as a profitable ultra-low cost airline while discussions with Indigo Partners progress.

WOW air's fleet will be reduced from twenty to eleven aircraft, all single-aisle Airbus. WOW air is in negotiations with its lessors to return some of its aircraft including all Airbus A330s. Four Airbus A321s are being sold in a transaction that will improve WOW air's liquidity by more than 10 million USD.

There will no changes in the schedule in December and early January. In January 2019, WOW air will implement a new flight schedule. WOW air will contact passengers affected by these changes.

Considering this smaller operation, a reduction in WOW air’s workforce is unfortunately inevitable. Today, 111 permanent employees were laid off across the airline. Contractors and short term staff will not be renewed for the time being. WOW air hopes to be able to offer affected employees a future employment opportunity when WOW air starts growing again.

“This is the most difficult day in the history of WOW air. We have dedicated people who have worked hard to make WOW air a reality and it breaks my heart to downsize the company. However, in order to ensure our future and preserve WOW air in the long run, we unfortunately must take these drastic measures“ says Skuli Mogensen CEO and founder of WOW air.

After this restructuring, about one thousand employees will remain with WOW air.

This information is information that WOW air hf. is obliged to make public pursuant to the EU Market Abuse Regulation. The information was submitted for publication, through the agency of the contact person set out above, at 11:00 GMT on December 13, 2018.

pabely 28th Dec 2018 13:26

Sold it's Gatwick slots and moving full London operation to STN, will that survive with such competition up the road at LTN ?

cornishsimon 28th Dec 2018 14:38

Sold to. ?


cs

southside bobby 28th Dec 2018 15:12

...Wizz Air.

pabely 28th Dec 2018 15:14


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 10345993)
Sold to. ?


cs

It was not disclosed and they don't move fully across until April, if they survive that long as obviously a cash generation exercise.

AirportPlanner1 28th Dec 2018 16:30


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10345959)
Sold it's Gatwick slots and moving full London operation to STN, will that survive with such competition up the road at LTN ?

Assuming the airline survives probably yes, they already operated daily this summer with competition both up and down the road and unlike LTN’s offerings Wow will offer through flights to the US/Canada.

True Blue 28th Dec 2018 21:56

Wow had 2 flights a day to Lgw and daily to Stn during the summer. The schedule for next summer is one daily, a bit of a reduction. Basically, the Stn operation continues as was, the 2 Lgw flights have been cancelled,so not much of a gain for Stn I think, in spite of the press releases.

southside bobby 29th Dec 2018 10:34

"Not much of a gain for STN"...

Well at present planning WOW actually return to STN & almost certainly with the downsizing both London airports were not.

The STN ops will now be year round instead of seasonal.

The STN ops will be retimed giving better connections to US/Canada.

STN ops now commence 31st March 2019 as opposed to 25th April this year.

So a little kudos for STN certainly.

compton3bravo 29th Dec 2018 11:54

If it lasts until then Bobby. All depends on Indigo Partners.

davidjohnson6 29th Dec 2018 12:07

Have Indigo and Wow actually signed a legally binding contract (not some fluffy preliminary in-principle piece with a thousand caveats allowing Indigo to walk away without paying a penny) that would require Indigo invest at least $50m or more into Wow and be enforceable in a court ? Or have Indigo already handed the money over already ?

I know due diligence was taking place earlier this month but nothing seems to have happened with Indigo since then...

LGS6753 29th Dec 2018 12:13


Have Indigo and Wow actually signed a legally binding contract (not some fluffy preliminary in-principle piece with a thousand caveats allowing Indigo to walk away without paying a penny)
Almost certainly not. Nothing would be signed without due diligence, and that would take a number of weeks. I'm pretty sure it's "fluff".

southside bobby 1st Jan 2019 09:19

Indigo Partners...

The (perhaps) subtlety appears unperceived or uncommented then...

With a common factor at present being Indigo Partners as lead investor in Wizz & engaged in negotiations/talks with WOW, recently Wizz obtain the 4 daily take off/landing slots currently used by WOW at Gatwick & wef 31/3/19 launch two new daily routes from there.

Coincidence or initial synergy in play?

Indigo Partners with a very large portfolio of single aisle Airbus a/c for future delivery would it could be imagined find another partner airline a very useful addition for the placing of some of those frames.

Flightrider 1st Jan 2019 13:39

Not completely correct.

Airport Coordination shows that one of the daily sets slots recently acquired by Wizz at Gatwick came from Flybe. The other came from Wow. Wow's second set has gone to easyJet.

tubby linton 21st Mar 2019 22:38

https://wowair.is/investors/media/ Musical chairs....again

davidjohnson6 21st Mar 2019 23:03

Puts Wow Air in an very weak position. Sounds like Icelandair can pretty much name their terms - and those terms will be inferior to those on offer a few months ago

lfc84 22nd Mar 2019 10:09

"Aiming to conclude by Monday 25th March"

WOW

Sounds like there'll be a take it or leave it situation

paully 22nd Mar 2019 10:58


Originally Posted by lfc84 (Post 10426564)
"Aiming to conclude by Monday 25th March"

WOW

Sounds like there'll be a take it or leave it situation

Fuel bill due maybe??

Big Tudor 22nd Mar 2019 12:26

Guess with their Max 8 & 9’s on the ground and no date for a return, Icelandair might view WOW as a quick fix for the gap in their fleet?

inOban 22nd Mar 2019 13:00

I was thinking that! Any Airbus airline will have a value to a Boeing one at present.


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