Originally Posted by cornishsimon
(Post 10618669)
Yep. Does look like a Nqy based unit is required for an ex newquay departure to Manchester. still no direct heathrow loaded past March 20 I would struggle with it being dropped as it’s a pso cs |
BEE won't be operating to GLA, NCL, LPL or DSA next Summer (as already mentioned, LOG are picking-up GLA and NCL),
although JER/GCI (operated by BCI) will continue. In addition to LHR, it doesn't look like BHX or BHD are yet released for S19 (these are not on their cancelled routes list) Doesn't look like SAS are coming back. |
Originally Posted by Wycombe
(Post 10621333)
BEE won't be operating to GLA, NCL, LPL or DSA next Summer (as already mentioned, LOG are picking-up GLA and NCL),
although JER/GCI (operated by BCI) will continue. In addition to LHR, it doesn't look like BHX or BHD are yet released for S19 (these are not on their cancelled routes list) Doesn't look like SAS are coming back. Eurowings has Dusseldorf onsale 1 weekly Saturday from May to September 5th. And Stuttgart operates from 23rd May to 15th September 1 weekly Saturday. |
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
(Post 10621333)
BEE won't be operating to GLA, NCL, LPL or DSA next Summer (as already mentioned, LOG are picking-up GLA and NCL),
although JER/GCI (operated by BCI) will continue. In addition to LHR, it doesn't look like BHX or BHD are yet released for S19 (these are not on their cancelled routes list) Doesn't look like SAS are coming back. It seems to end at the end of September. Pete |
Yep. Think we won’t know the full extent of the Newquay BE network till they get around to putting the rest of the schedule on sale. so far it looks like x2 bases dh8, 1 operates an early ex Nqy to Manchester return. Edinburgh seems to have an increase over previous years so with x4 lhr assuming it retuems and x2 man it does leave some playing around with schedules for my assumes 2 based aircraft cs |
Hmmmmm https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/co...athrow-3562901 poor reporting in my opinion but it does beg the question. When and if the route will go on sale ? cs |
Is the PSO a public document? Could Virgin Connect replace LHR flights with SEN flights and still meet the obligation? PSO’s are an EU transport law creation, when does the current one expire? Will an equivalent subsidy be put in place post Brexit? Obviously Virgin would prefer to use the LHR slots for their widebodies. Was it a mistake to move from LGW?
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Originally Posted by nonemmet
(Post 10623710)
Is the PSO a public document? Could Virgin Connect replace LHR flights with SEN flights and still meet the obligation? PSO’s are an EU transport law creation, when does the current one expire? Will an equivalent subsidy be put in place post Brexit? Obviously Virgin would prefer to use the LHR slots for their widebodies. Was it a mistake to move from LGW?
As for the slots I believe that they are from the BA remedy pool and not Virgin Atlantic ones. |
If passengers want to travel long haul come up to Manchester plenty of routes and growing
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Originally Posted by chaps1954
(Post 10623977)
If passengers want to travel long haul come up to Manchester plenty of routes and growing
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Looks like the Council have agreed the £12 million for the spaceport today, another step nearer.
I am flying long haul BA business class from LHR next week and have chosen to simply rent a car and drop it at LHR here is why. For two of us and masses of baggage, to drive from home to NQY ( I live West of it), check in, take the flight, collect my baggage at LHR involves an elapsed time of at least three hours and leaving my car at NQY for a month or an expensive taxi to get there.Now add the two hours I would arrive early for my departing flight, that is five hours. This involves offloading the bags at NQY and collecting them again at LHR rather than just putting them in the back of the car and the nice man from Hertz loading them on his bus and dropping me by the terminal door. Yes it will take me an hour or so longer overall to drive but I can time it to arrive exactly when I want and save a shed load of money in the meantime. LGW on the other hand was much longer to drive to and therefore to me a closer decision. I would certainly look at MAN, GLA, DUB or anywhere else if the timings were right but none of these offer a proper business class service to YVR. ( before anyone has a go at me I know BA/AC do not fly from LGW either!) |
Hi groundhog. goos points well made. for information in the future flybe do still interline with BA, they just don’t codeshare so you are able to book via say Expedia and have BExxxx and BAxxx all on one ticket which would negate the need to collect bags in LHR in either direction. cs |
Thanks Simon, good point never thought of that.
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" I can time it to arrive exactly when I want"
please tell me the secret of being able to forecast exactly how the traffic around Exeter, Bristol and LHR can be forecast to allow this? My travel times by car from LHR to mid Cornwall have varied from 3:45 to 6:30 over the last year.............. |
Asturias56. Of course I can't tell you in advance whether my drive will be delayed any more than I can tell you whether my flight will be delayed, nor can I tell you next weeks lottery winning numbers.
Logic dictates you leave in plenty of time, then adjust your speed and route of progress accordingly, not so hard to do with modern technology. What you do highlight with that comment is the added flexibility of driving over flying, if there is adverse weather for instance I can just set off earlier or even the day before, you can't necessarily do that when you have a flight booking you are committed to. My journey times to LGW have been between 5 and 10 hours, LHR 4 hours and 7 hours....hence the reason I say LGW was more beneficial to me than LHR. |
Originally Posted by GROUNDHOG
(Post 10628561)
What you do highlight with that comment is the added flexibility of driving over flying, if there is adverse weather for instance I can just set off earlier or even the day before, you can't necessarily do that when you have a flight booking you are committed to.
Or you could be at home until your new flight goes, which might be your original route or a detour via MAN or somewhere else. |
But I want to fly from the UK to Canada having my flight from NQY a day later isn't going to help. The car question is why I always do a rental with Hertz apart from not wanting to leave my own car at the airport for s month.
just checked the fare one way for our dates with four bags two people and the cost is over £350 |
That's my point - whatever method you use you have to take a view on possible delays - if I MUST be somewhere I travel a lot earlier (a day extra for intercontinental trips) than if "it would be nice to arrive at..."
Driving to/from Cornwall can be a very pleasant experience - but it can also be the third circle of hell. Overall the train is best - but until they put in the Reading- LHR link connection it's not very good for connecting. Hard to damn the air connection on those grounds IMHO |
Certainly not damning the air connection, I have used it in the past and will again BUT the onward travel circumstances have to be right to fit in. I was a great advocate of LHR but every time I have looked at using it the fares have been prohibitive or the timings do not connect.
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Still no actual word from flybe or Nqy re LHR post March 20 but in other news the Loganair NQY-NWI service has been scrapped before the first flight has taken place. This is due to Loganair closing the NWI base https://www.edp24.co.uk/business/fli...lled-1-6406616 cs |
A spokesman for Newquay airport said: "To reassure passengers, we can confirm that tickets on the London PSO service beyond 28 March 2020 are expected to be on sale from the week commencing 6 January 2020. Although passengers can currently only book travel on the service between Newquay and Heathrow until the end of March, the PSO service to London is contracted to operate four daily flights, seven days per week until October 2022 and that commitment remains unchanged." |
I would be very pleased if the current x4 daily service continues. that would require a second dh8 based at NQY which once full schedules are available indicate an increase in flying on a daily basis as the other unit would do an early and late NQY-MAN return. Will be interesting to see how the schedules are filled in here, I know there’s some increases in EDI and I suspect that LBA would be flown ex NQY also cs |
I and a few others had a bit of a rant at NQY on their FB page yesterday afternoon. Perhaps this is the result.
This is the Airport's most important route, run by it's biggest airline operator, and yet there seemed to be a complete lack of certainty - at least from a communication perspective - from both parties about it's status after the Winter-Summer schedule change near to the end of March. If it is continuing (and the PSO says it should, although it shouldn't be assumed that everyone knows that) you would think that Flybe would want to sell tickets for the period after 28th March. Or (cynical hat on) is it a ploy to release later, and push fares up! |
Funnily enough iv been having a dig on Twitter at them also. Even managed to end up quoted by simon Calder in the press. however iv only seen this unspecified quote in Cornwall live, nothing anywhere other than that cs |
This was also posted on their FB page yesterday afternoon after some of the questioning by myself and others....
Tickets on the London PSO service beyond 28 March 2020 are expected to be on sale from the week commencing 6 January 2020. Although you can currently only book travel on the service between Newquay and Heathrow until the end of March, the PSO service to London is contracted to operate 4 daily flights, 7 days per week until October 2022 and that commitment remains unchanged. We are sorry for the inconvenience this delay to tickets being on sale is causing to passengers using the service but we are working with Flybe to optimise the route and ensure that Cornwall has the best available connectivity to London and beyond. |
Notice that they haven’t specified which London airport in that quote cs |
Notice that they haven’t specified which London airport in that quote I don't think that aligns with the global connectivity mantra as well as LHR though. |
if you live in Cornwall be thankful you can connect with anywhere else TBH
Let's be honest - there isn't a vast number of massive exporting businesses in the area is there? |
Flybe to drop NQY to LHR and return back to LGW operations according to the BBC news.
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Guess that opens the door for Willie Walsh to do his NQY/LHR high season that he offered .... :ugh:
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DETAILS OF FLYBE’S TWO NEW SUMMER 2020 ROUTES FROM NEWQUAY
https://www.flybe.com/media/news/jan...n=default_post Available for travel 29th March – 24th October 2020 NEWQUAY(NQY) – AMSTERDAM (AMS) Operates Daily (excepting Wed) Dep NQY 1110 Arr 1355 Dep AMS 1440 Arr NQY 1525 NEWQUAY (NQY) – LONDON GATWICK (LGW) Operates Daily Dep NQY 0705 Arr LGW 0825 Dep LGW 0925 Arr NQY 1040 Dep NQY 1015 Arr LGW 1135 Dep LGW 1220 Arr NQY 1335 Dep NQY 1555 Arr LGW 1715 Dep LGW 1800 Arr NQY 1915 Dep NQY 1835 Arr LGW 1955 Dep LGW 2045 Arr NQY 2200 |
Also Manchester up to 18 per week. X3 Monday to Friday ? Double daily at the weekends ?
as I previously suggested this will require x2 based aircraft at newquay cs |
I would think the lobby to go back to LGW is that many local folk want to go on their holidays with package tour companies where LHR does not offer choice to that many
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I would think the lobby to go back to LGW is that many local folk want to go on their holidays with package tour companies where LHR does not offer choice to that many Regulation 1008/2008 says: may impose a public service obligation in respect of scheduled air services between an airport in the Community and an airport serving a peripheral or development region in its territory or on a thin route to any airport on its territory any such route being considered vital for the economic and social development of the region which the airport serves. |
Originally Posted by cornishsimon
(Post 10665009)
Also Manchester up to 18 per week. X3 Monday to Friday ? Double daily at the weekends ?
as I previously suggested this will require x2 based aircraft at newquay cs |
I would think the lobby to go back to LGW is that many local folk want to go on their holidays with package tour companies where LHR does not offer choice to that many Not exactly the point of a PSO... |
Originally Posted by Wycombe
(Post 10665104)
Maybe not but a lot of the feedback on NQY's social media channels is as rog747 stated. There was a clammer to return to LGW mainly for connection to the EZY network.
Same as the ''want'' now again for LGW it would seem |
That might be so - just not a suitable case for taxpayers support!
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"Also Manchester up to 18 per week. X3 Monday to Friday ? Double daily at the weekends ?
as I previously suggested this will require x2 based aircraft at Newquay". Connections ex Manchester are excellent, EZY, RYR and long haul. |
You'd think that LGW wasn't suitable for people travelling to London from some of the comments here. The only advantage of LHR is better connections if you are connecting long-haul
But how many people travel on BUSINESS to/from Cornwall internationally - there isn't a major international business in the county............ |
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