Originally Posted by TimmyW
(Post 10817137)
As I said, posters on Twitter.
It does seem a very slow restart compared to others. |
Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
(Post 10817146)
compared to what? Have jet2 released their restart plans yet?
It's very quiet in the Leeds portacabins |
In regards to aircraft used, I'd imagine from say, September onwards they would use the original aircraft planned as I think a lot of people with prior bookings would be waiting to see what happened without amending anything.
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As far as I see Bfs is still on sale from mid July. They would hardly cancel these at this late stage. I checked Turkey and Greece.
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
(Post 10817129)
Some posters on Twitter suggesting the 5 bases will be until next summer, when TUI will relook at things. Seems a lot of the smaller bases may be closing.
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My guess is that there will be a number of holiday makers being driven from there planned departure airport to one of the three airports in use, unless there holiday has been cancelled.
My belief is all TUI has to do is get you to your booked accommodation for the dates booked, how they get you there and back is up to them. |
Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
(Post 10817146)
compared to what? Have jet2 released their restart plans yet?
Although they do say by the end of July 19 destinations from 5 airports so nothing to say that wouldn’t be the case from say the second week of ops. |
Originally Posted by valefan16
(Post 10817243)
Ryanair have a lot of flights to Spain and Greece on offer in July, 2 a week from some islands in Greece from my local at EMA for instance alone, so TUI operating only 3 aircraft across the U.K. is a bit surprising,.
Its a lot simpler for ryanair don't forget. They provide a flight. The likes of Tui and jet2 have the flights, transfers, hotels, in resort staff, even down to how to provide meals at the all inclusives to organise. It was always going to be a slow restart to ops. Even more so for the package tour operators. |
Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M
(Post 10817234)
My guess is that there will be a number of holiday makers being driven from there planned departure airport to one of the three airports in use, unless there holiday has been cancelled.
My belief is all TUI has to do is get you to your booked accommodation for the dates booked, how they get you there and back is up to them. Obviously it will be inconvenient for both passenger and airline to travel potentially hundreds of miles to an alternative base but if customers are willing then it would seem the best option. If they only operate the flights for LGW/MAN/BHX pax, there will be significant under-utilisation of fleet so by operating more (or larger) flights from these bases including the displaced pax they'd be making more money and keeping everyone a bit happier. However, they will obviously need to ensure they can cover this in terms of staffing (surely they will?). If they manage to make at least a reasonably good job of that then they'd impress customers and they'd be more likely to book again. Cancelling people's flights/holidays simply because they booked from a smaller base would inevitably leave many with a sour taste (certainly true for myself with a booking around 4 weeks from now). |
It can also be argued that flying by FR or EZY to stay in their own or someone else's flat is much less likely to cause an infection cluster than tui or Jet2 flying customers to an all-inclusive resort with communal facilities.
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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
(Post 10817248)
3 aircraft? Its 3 bases.
Its a lot simpler for ryanair don't forget. They provide a flight. The likes of Tui and jet2 have the flights, transfers, hotels, in resort staff, even down to how to provide meals at the all inclusives to organise. It was always going to be a slow restart to ops. Even more so for the package tour operators. |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10817257)
I think the point was that since so few flights will be operating from each base, it will effectively be like only operating three aircraft.
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So it is the case that less operating aircraft means packed aircraft due to consolidation. My family is now grown up but the perceived danger would still stop me booking any holiday abroad this year. Tough choice for those that had already booked. Go or lose your money.
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As you're in Leicestershire it can't be a long slog to BHX surely?
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Originally Posted by FQTLSteve
(Post 10817434)
As you're in Leicestershire it can't be a long slog to BHX surely?
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
(Post 10817446)
We're in W Mids but prefer the 'slog' to EMA rather than the bun fight that is BHX. But likely EMA is not on Ze Leest.😀
Seriously, I really can't see how the unpleasant experience of travelling from the northwest of Birmingham to EMA is less than flying through BHX. By the time you've parked somewhere near Melbourne, and nowhere near the terminal, then socially distanced on a transfer bus lugging 20kg each of "holiday essentials", the comparatively short walk from the BHX onsite carparks to the terminal must be a less stressful experience - but each to their own. |
Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10817486)
Bun fight? Unless cafes are opened you'll be hard pressed to find any buns!!
Seriously, I really can't see how the unpleasant experience of travelling from the northwest of Birmingham to EMA is less than flying through BHX. By the time you've parked somewhere near Melbourne, and nowhere near the terminal, then socially distanced on a transfer bus lugging 20kg each of "holiday essentials", the comparatively short walk from the BHX onsite carparks to the terminal must be a less stressful experience - but each to their own. Needs a new terminal really to push on. |
After my recent complaint and worries about flying with SmartLynx, I did get a call with a senior operations manager from Tui Airways and a Customer service manager on Friday they said that they could not tell me then but there was a major update to be announced on Monday morning for Summer 2020 which as obviously now been done.
They both said that in my case Cyprus would be available by end of July and that my flights to Paphos from Birmingham in September they were looking at combining that with the Larnarca service and using a 787 but were unsure which airport the flight would operate into. This does kind of make sense as PFO departs at 14:25 and LCA at 14:35 especially if pax numbers are not that high and it is only about 60-70 miles between the two airports |
Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10817486)
Bun fight? Unless cafes are opened you'll be hard pressed to find any buns!!
Seriously, I really can't see how the unpleasant experience of travelling from the northwest of Birmingham to EMA is less than flying through BHX. By the time you've parked somewhere near Melbourne, and nowhere near the terminal, then socially distanced on a transfer bus lugging 20kg each of "holiday essentials", the comparatively short walk from the BHX onsite carparks to the terminal must be a less stressful experience - but each to their own. Chez Flying Hi to BHX - M54 >M6 (bottleneck) > M6 to BHX via M6/M5 interchange and Spag Junction (slow, often stationary) > pre-warn Meet @ Greet prior to arriving BHX > wait till they turn up! Time - 1 hour to 1 hour 15. Chez Flying Hi to EMA - A5 > M6Toll > M69/A69 - EMA meet and greet ON AIRPORT 100 mtrs from Departures door. Car available on return just 50 mtrs from Arrivals exit door. Time - 1 hour 15 (never been longer even at busy times) Inside terminal EMA is a much quieter, more relaxed experience IMO. |
Next summer seems largely unchanged at the moment still.
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