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Ddraig Goch 1st Sep 2017 18:26

St. Helena-2
 
An updated pdf with Q&A can be found at this link from SHG
http://www.sainthelena.gov.sh/wp-con...ember-2017.pdf

The prices quoted are far too high for the average Saint when jobs are paying £7,700 for a bakery worker or an Internal Auditor for SHG at £8828 or £11034 depending on qualifications ( all per annum.)
Someone on the minimun wage in the UK would get circa. £12700 p.a. approx. for someone over 21.
It is also important to understand that food etc.costs are very much more than in the UK.
For more information about Saint Helena follow these links:

http://http://www.saint.fm/the-independent/

SAMS The Sentinel newspaper - St Helena Island

https://www.facebook.com/groups/560571324116728/ (facebook)

01475 1st Sep 2017 20:18

Possibly, but no more so (in fact on average less so) than the ferries that Saints previously used to go to their better paid jobs in other places. The real issue of course is how they can get to the Falklands if not via Ascension Island :-(

Northern Flights 14th Sep 2017 19:22

The updated SHG FAQ note says: "Airlink plan to carry out an engine upgrade in the first quarter of 2018 which will allow the aircraft to be registered to carry 87 passengers on this route."

Any comment on the likely nature of the upgrade?

lolder 15th Sep 2017 17:27

CF34-10E5A1 engines.

ORAC 9th Oct 2017 09:55

https://www.conservativehome.com/pla...-overcome.html

WHBM 14th Oct 2017 08:11

First schedules start

St Helena: Flights to remote Atlantic island begin at last - BBC News

ETOPS 14th Oct 2017 08:24

You can see the aircraft on FR24 on the way to WDH at the moment..

https://www.flightradar24.com/SA8131/f33cce7

Tomahawk53 14th Oct 2017 20:56

Commercial flights start to St. Helena
 
According to the BBC commercial flights to St. Helena from South Africa have at last begun. It makes me wonder what has been done to mitigate the dangerous wind conditions that were originally identified...

pedroalpha 14th Oct 2017 21:02

St Helena
 
I am amazed that as far as I am aware, there have been no comments relating to today’s first commercial flight.
Anyone?

Green Flash 14th Oct 2017 21:14

BBC 1 news now

Mister Geezer 14th Oct 2017 21:26

IIRC the first commercial flight was back in May with an RJ85 operated by Airlink but this seems to be the first scheduled flight to HLE.

ETOPS 15th Oct 2017 14:50

Return flight, SA8132, just airborne now. Hope the crew enjoyed the nightstop - doubt they needed to pay for any "beverages" :D

01475 15th Oct 2017 15:05

Criminally lazy of the press to carry on referring to HLE as a useless airport when it's now starting to perform the role of what will by February be "one of the most vital airports in the world"!

Mike6567 15th Oct 2017 18:53

Not sure how they have solved the "wind shear" problem apart from restrictive limits and skill?
Is there a more detailed explanation?

atakacs 15th Oct 2017 19:50


Originally Posted by Mike6567 (Post 9926015)
Not sure how they have solved the "wind shear" problem apart from restrictive limits and skill?
Is there a more detailed explanation?

What else do you need (except for some luck...)?

parabellum 16th Oct 2017 04:59

Is it more challenging than, for example, Funchal? (or the old Kai Tak with a 700' cloud base? ;)

Heathrow Harry 16th Oct 2017 08:21

Big error on choosing the airline for the first attepmt TBH - -clear drive to "fly the flag" rather than getting someone who knew what they were doing................

lolder 17th Oct 2017 03:25


Originally Posted by ETOPS (Post 9925875)
Return flight, SA8132, just airborne now. Hope the crew enjoyed the nightstop - doubt they needed to pay for any "beverages" :D

I would suspect they were urged not to partake of alcoholic beverages on this lay-over.

lolder 17th Oct 2017 03:41


Originally Posted by Mike6567 (Post 9926015)
Not sure how they have solved the "wind shear" problem apart from restrictive limits and skill?
Is there a more detailed explanation?

Apparently Comair the first carrier has a firm policy to always go-around with a windshear alarm. Many carriers do not require a go-around when there are not thunderstorms or frontal passages. The systems were implemented originally because some misguided pilots crashed after flying through thunderstorms on short final. Micro-bursts are really the only events that exceed aircraft performance capabilities. The current St.Helena carrier SA Airlink intends to try to fly through the turbulence. Large control movements on short final are something that's rare in today's "stabilized approach" era. In preparation, the St. Helena route Airlink pilots have been hand flying the E190 all the time except in cruise to get their skills up. A prior ETOPS qualification flight made a lot of landings with the heavy winds which were "eye opening" but they are succeeding. The windshear alerts are ignored and the aircraft wrestled through the turbulence and if the energy is right at the touchdown zone, landed. That's what you get paid big bucks for. The chief pilot and training director are among the qualified Captains on the route. They haven't had to go-around yet.
The E190 can also land downwind where-as the Comair B 737-800 could not on the RESA restricted runway length.

Mike6567 17th Oct 2017 15:45

Reserve fuel requirements
 
Thanks lolder,
This brings back memories of operating to Bermuda in the past with no diversion and just island reserve fuel.
We always assumed if someone got stuck on the runway there was equipment to remove the obstruction - however I think that was wishful thinking.


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