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LBAflyer22 26th Mar 2019 21:03


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10430695)
2 new routes to be launched. Zadar and Preveza

Appreciate that they are going to be launching routes; whether it be them or others - but the original post (quoted below) clearly states an announcement to be made that is not a launch of routes. This is what i am getting at.


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10296098)
Announcement to be made Q1 2019, not launch of routes.


sixchannel 26th Mar 2019 22:45


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10430705)
Does anyone have any info in when the Glasgow and Edinburgh S20 flights will be released, and if so I wonder if the new routes will be from these bases as well as some other airports.

Ditto for EMA.

mudcity 28th Mar 2019 06:48

Jet 2 have extended / revised the lease deal with Air Tanker - one A330 will be
leased all year round until the end of summer 2022- a second A330 will be leased for summer only ending summer 2021

castleford tiger 28th Mar 2019 07:47

What will be the Jet 2 fleet size by peak Summer now please. Does anyone have this information?
Thanks Mudcity I wonder what the winter plan is for the A330

TIGER

Plane.Silly 28th Mar 2019 13:18


What will be the Jet 2 fleet size by peak Summer now please. Does anyone have this information?
Don't have the exact breakdown, but they have mentioned they'll have 102 aircraft operating in August

Sounds about right when they recently welcomed their 100th into the fleet back in January

chaps1954 28th Mar 2019 14:33

Wonder if the A330 will be in full colours as it is on a long lease.

easyboy22 28th Mar 2019 14:35


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10432527)
Wonder if the A330 will be in full colours as it is on a long lease.

one that’s staying for the winter will be in full holidays livery

chaps1954 28th Mar 2019 15:05

Wow but I think the Jet2 red scheme would look better still

jethro15 28th Mar 2019 15:19


What will be the Jet 2 fleet size by peak Summer now please. Does anyone have this information?
www.jethros.org.uk/fleets/fleet_listings/jet2.htm

azz767 28th Mar 2019 16:09


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10432550)
Wow but I think the Jet2 red scheme would look better still

That would involve painting a whole a/c though instead of a tail and some logo stickers. Obviously a cost saving measure

chaps1954 28th Mar 2019 17:55

Yes I know but we can all wish

sixchannel 29th Mar 2019 20:57

LS918 Squawk 7700?
 
LS918 TFN - MAN G-LSAN tonight squawked a general emergency tonight.
Did a couple of holding patterns to the east of Macclesfield before landing.
Anyone know what the issue was?

LiamNCL 31st Mar 2019 19:41

As mentioned recently here , Jet2 are breaking the mould at BHX finally seeing some older 738s based whilst the better performing 8MG models move elsewhere, JZBB positioned into NCL this afternoon , JZBD & JZHM have swapped for GDFZ & JZHD.

LBIA 2nd Apr 2019 18:54

Jet2 new routes for summer 2020 now on sale.

Birmingham - Preveza = 1x weekly SUN
London Stansted - Preveza = 2x weekly WED & SUN
London Stansted - Zadar = 2x weekly WED & SUN
Manchester - Preveza = 1x weekly SUN
Manchester - Zadar = 2x weekly WED & SUN

VickersVicount 2nd Apr 2019 21:23

still no Scottish routes available for S20? why the delay?

sixchannel 2nd Apr 2019 21:33


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10437045)
still no Scottish routes available for S20? why the delay?

Nor EMA either.
Pointless booking anyway - nothing to do with the B word - the currently available discounting does not go beyond April '20, there in NO Insurance listed for S20 holidays yet and also hopefully the nice Crew on our next holiday flights in May will be dishing out One Time extra discount vouchers to use for S20
Every little helps.

pamann 2nd Apr 2019 22:18

Surely Stansted is to be their second largest base come 2020? If there’s to be an increase in A330 numbers in the future, Stansted must stand the highest chance of being the next big bus base?

Plane.Silly 4th Apr 2019 08:34


still no Scottish routes available for S20? why the delay?

Nor EMA either.
If everything else seems to be on sale, either they're finalising their plans (extra aircraft maybe?) or the issue is with the airport themselves.
That might explain GLA and EDI, but EMA is part of the MAN/EMA/STN group, so that doesn't make sense

GayFriendly 4th Apr 2019 10:57

Summer 2020
 
Birmingham-Nice also announced as a new route for S20 a few weeks ago.

It looks like Jet2 expansion is focusing primarily on MAN, STN and BHX although I'm sure there will be some announcements from other airports as well.

Certainly at BHX there is still more demand for higher frequencies on routes like AGP, TFS, ALC, LPA etc, monthly pax figures are still down on these routes 18 months after the demise of Monarch and there are also some Jet2 suited seasonal city routes that could work from BHX, the primary example being Lisbon (always well loaded when operated by Monarch), plus Athens, Valencia, Seville....however I think these would only be launched in conjunction with other bases and such routes are already covered by other airlines at MAN and STN. Here's hoping!




P330 4th Apr 2019 12:34

Leeds
 
Does anyone know officially how many aircraft are based at Leeds, by type, either currently or the summer season?

Is Leeds still the home of a lot of the maintenance work?

I remain fascinated by the quiet utilisation of those 733s. I think 11 are still the fleet but a couple haven’t flown for a while and I think (please correct me) 6 out of the remaining 9 run out of Leeds with, if you’re lucky, one flight a day.

LBIA 4th Apr 2019 13:30

Leeds base for summer 2019 is as follows

In service
6+ Boeing 737-300
​6+ Boeing 737-800
3+ Boeing 757-200
1+ Airbus A320 (Smart Lynx = May 1st to June 18th)
Spare back up
1+ Boeing 737-300
1+ Boeing 757-200

Summer 2020

In service
11+ Boeing 737-800
4+ Boeing 737-300
Spare back up
1+ Boeing 737-800
1+ Boeing 737-300
​​​
​​​​​​

P330 4th Apr 2019 14:10


Originally Posted by LBIA (Post 10438628)
Leeds base for summer 2019 is as follows

In service
6+ Boeing 737-300
​6+ Boeing 737-800
3+ Boeing 757-200
1+ Airbus A320 (Smart Lynx = May 1st to June 18th)
Spare back up
1+ Boeing 737-300
1+ Boeing 757-200

Summer 2020

In service
11+ Boeing 737-800
4+ Boeing 737-300
Spare back up
1+ Boeing 737-800
1+ Boeing 737-300
​​​
​​​​​​

Thanks LBIA - interesting and appreciated.

Any thoughts on the utilisation of those 733s? Feels like at present at least, far fewer aircraft are actually needed than are based. It certainly feels like a low utilisation.

Are those 733s performing well at the moment? Still got 3 x 86-88 build aircraft flying with the remainder mainly 98-99 end of line builds.

cheesebag 4th Apr 2019 14:24

Looks like they have gone a good way to filling the massive hole MON left at BHX

Plane.Silly 5th Apr 2019 07:14


Leeds base for summer 2019 is as follows

In service
6+ Boeing 737-300
​6+ Boeing 737-800
3+ Boeing 757-200
1+ Airbus A320 (Smart Lynx = May 1st to June 18th)
Spare back up
1+ Boeing 737-300
1+ Boeing 757-200

Summer 2020

In service
11+ Boeing 737-800
4+ Boeing 737-300
Spare back up
1+ Boeing 737-800
1+ Boeing 737-300
So whats happened to the B757-200's? I know it's previously been mentioned that a couple would be retired. Would i be right in assuming they've all moved to MAN?

This also represents a small peak capacity reduction, assuming each operational aircraft operates 4 sectors a day, S19 has 10,908 seats, S20 has 10,684. although the -800's are more economical, so they could operate more year-round flights?

Flying Wild 5th Apr 2019 07:54

All 757s are moving to MAN for next summer.

Auxtank 8th Apr 2019 18:30

Well, if my recent flight with J2 is anything to go by I'll say this; Jet2 appear to be very ably demonstrating how to run a loco airline with good employee conditions, honest dealings/ nice whole flight experiences for their pax and a fair outlook to the future.

I sincerely hope I won't be eating my words in 18 months or so. I mean that.

Johnny F@rt Pants 8th Apr 2019 19:37


I sincerely hope I won't be eating my words in 18 months or so. I mean that.
I’m glad you enjoyed your experience, we put a great deal of effort into our customer service levels offered by our airport and airline crew.

sixchannel 8th Apr 2019 19:43


Originally Posted by Auxtank (Post 10442640)
Well, if my recent flight with J2 is anything to go by I'll say this; Jet2 appear to be very ably demonstrating how to run a loco airline with good employee conditions, honest dealings/ nice whole flight experiences for their pax and a fair outlook to the future.

I sincerely hope I won't be eating my words in 18 months or so. I mean that.

Amen to that. Enjoy ALMOST everything about Jet2 flights and its good to know that there are such good things. I once thad a query about a Jet2 Holiday booking where a Discount had not been calculated when totting up. Expecting the worst. I made the phone call and had a very pleasant conversation and it was all sorted. No angst.
Long may it continue.
Our 2019 plans are ALL using Jet2 flights and Holidays and when the 2020 comes out PROPERLY (not the mess it currently is) we'll be right in there. We HAVE to Plan early due to "circumstances" - cover etc.
Now then - if only they would get rid of that mega-annoying Ooh-Ooh "Hold My Hand" song that they pitch at you behind every possible opportunity!! Torture! lol! I know Jess Glynne is a very fine Singer/Songwriter but enough already.

LiamNCL 8th Apr 2019 19:56

Certainly have a very big presence at every airport they serve.

Auxtank 8th Apr 2019 21:05


Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants (Post 10442695)


I’m glad you enjoyed your experience, we put a great deal of effort into our customer service levels offered by our airport and airline crew.

It's working.

Don't change a thing.

rog747 9th Apr 2019 06:41

"Hold My Hand"
 

Originally Posted by Auxtank (Post 10442761)
It's working.

Don't change a thing.

Totally agree - Jet2 are doing really well, riding high, and have an increasing large and very loyal customer base with a good solid product both hard and soft - the TV Ad is way ahead of the daft TUI ones and is uplifting...I like it...

I really wish Jet2 had a presence down here at BOH and maybe EXT to throw off both TUI and FR

I should imagine the CEO & the Board are very relieved that Jet2 are not having to face a 737MAX debacle as they did not buy any - In hindsight a wise move.
That sort of chaos now being faced by TUI, DY/D8 and other European charter airlines that have their new fleets grounded is crippling and could finish a smaller company off...
If Monarch was still here with their new Max's that would have been rather brutal...

What are Jet2's future fleet plans ? A320/A321neo's?

I see that the fleets of 737-700's of KLM and TUI are being retired, these will be well maintained - a nice little plane - 148 seats with long legs and great performance. One a/c that can get into GIB OK.
At Astraeus they could do Egypt as far as Aswan non-stop with a full load, and also across the pond to Deer Park NF.

ATNotts 9th Apr 2019 07:21


What are Jet2's future fleet plans ? A320/A321neo's?
Although IT passengers (PAX in general I suspect) don't know a lot about what type of aircraft they are about to board as long as it gets them to their holiday one wonders just how damaged the 737MAX debacle has done to Boeing's brand in the public eye, and how much any damage that has been done might effect Jet2's, and other carriers fleet renewal plans. Whilst the occasional customer service glitch can be annoying, and temporarily damage a brand through keyboard warriors activity, perceived safety may stick rather more stubbornly.

PDXCWL45 9th Apr 2019 07:27


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10442984)
Totally agree - Jet2 are doing really well, riding high, and have an increasing large and very loyal customer base with a good solid product both hard and soft - the TV Ad is way ahead of the daft TUI ones and is uplifting...I like it...

I really wish Jet2 had a presence down here at BOH and maybe EXT to throw off both TUI and FR

I should imagine the CEO & the Board are very relieved that Jet2 are not having to face a 737MAX debacle as they did not buy any - In hindsight a wise move.
That sort of chaos now being faced by TUI, DY/D8 and other European charter airlines that have their new fleets grounded is crippling and could finish a smaller company off...
If Monarch was still here with their new Max's that would have been rather brutal...

What are Jet2's future fleet plans ? A320/A321neo's?

I see that the fleets of 737-700's of KLM and TUI are being retired, these will be well maintained - a nice little plane - 148 seats with long legs and great performance. One a/c that can get into GIB OK.
At Astraeus they could Egypt as far as Aswan non-stop with a full load, and also across the pond to Deer Park NF.

I don't see them launching the South West for quite a while and I think they'll find it uber competitive here.

rog747 9th Apr 2019 07:54


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 10443018)
Although IT passengers (PAX in general I suspect) don't know a lot about what type of aircraft they are about to board as long as it gets them to their holiday one wonders just how damaged the 737MAX debacle has done to Boeing's brand in the public eye, and how much any damage that has been done might effect Jet2's, and other carriers fleet renewal plans. Whilst the occasional customer service glitch can be annoying, and temporarily damage a brand through keyboard warriors activity, perceived safety may stick rather more stubbornly.

Precisely - TUI pax bombarded the company both in the UK and their EU regions through their social media insisting to ground the Max within 48 hours of the ET accident, and many cancelled their holidays or changed their plans -- very £££ damaging for TUI..folk are not daft, as we have seen in the past few weeks.

As for Jet 2 as I said, they are breathing a sigh of relief they do not have to deal with the Max damage limitation.

Jet 2 cleverly took the last 34 NG slots from Boeing but no more new ones are being built - but now we will see much higher £££ values of second hand a/c, or leases of any 737-800's, or even 700's that are currently, or were, available...
Airlines that were due to get rid of their NG's for new Max's are now of course hanging on to them UFN...For Jet 2 that could mean fleet expansion will be a concern.

azz767 9th Apr 2019 08:51


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10442697)
Now then - if only they would get rid of that mega-annoying Ooh-Ooh "Hold My Hand" song that they pitch at you behind every possible opportunity!! Torture! lol! I know Jess Glynne is a very fine Singer/Songwriter but enough already.

I completely agree with everything everyone has said. Their customer service is way beyond any of the competition, the on board product also. But after a heavy weekend in Prague the last thing I wanted was Jess Glynne singing the same lyric every 5 minutes. I think its just the sheer amount of times you here it that annoys me. All in all a minor annoyance on an otherwise fantastic airline.

On the fleet I'm sure we'll see something like a 737-700 come in to replace the 733's. They served a purpose for the airline and whilst in growth the 738's have matched demand increase on a lot of former 733 routes, there are still some routes, like the aforementioned GIB and some city routes from the likes of LBA and BFS that you would think it is perfect for.

I think as the 757's go, we will see them go down the A330 route. I think neo's are out of the question for a long while. Jet 2 buy second hand and maintain extremely well. The only reason they went for new 738's was they got a cracking deal on end of the line models, you're talking years until the neo gets to the end of the line. The 332 could fil PMI from MAN twice a day quite comfortably, and there is routes to the Canaries, Greece and Turkey that could support 2/3 332 services a week no problem (that's without the potential, if not very likely expansion into long haul). Either way its exciting times ahead for EXS


double-oscar 9th Apr 2019 09:17

Yes Jet2 have a good product but it will be interesting to see their results when they are released. EasyJet, TUI and Thomas Cook are all reporting difficult trading with margins under pressure. As Jet2 works to smaller margins anyway it is difficult to see how Jet2 cannot be affected in some way. Although there is some brand loyalty this sector is notoriously price sensitive.

Plane.Silly 9th Apr 2019 10:08


On the fleet I'm sure we'll see something like a 737-700 come in to replace the 733's. They served a purpose for the airline and whilst in growth the 738's have matched demand increase on a lot of former 733 routes, there are still some routes, like the aforementioned GIB and some city routes from the likes of LBA and BFS that you would think it is perfect for.
I might not be so sure about that. Another round of retirements this year will probably see the end of the older -300's (likely to be the end of the G-CEL# series). This leaves just a handful remaining, but all of these still have many years left in them. It doesn't seem logical to introduce a new aircraft to the fleet, along with the spares, training and integration that would be needed (despite the commonality)

Also to throw my pennies into the well of Jet2 praise, i haven't seen on here someone mention the TripAdvisor awards, where Jet2 scooped 5, including the prestigious #9 airline in the WORLD, being the only UK & European operator in the top 10.
Given the amount of praise they get, including all you Ppruners, it's hard not to see why.


I think as the 757's go, we will see them go down the A330 route. I think neo's are out of the question for a long while. Jet 2 buy second hand and maintain extremely well. The only reason they went for new 738's was they got a cracking deal on end of the line models, you're talking years until the neo gets to the end of the line. The 332 could fil PMI from MAN twice a day quite comfortably, and there is routes to the Canaries, Greece and Turkey that could support 2/3 332 services a week no problem (that's without the potential, if not very likely expansion into long haul). Either way its exciting times ahead for EXS
I'd believe this is a similar situation to the -300's, but there's definately more scope for expansion here. It's been previously reported that there's at least 1 B752 being retired this winter and all ops to be moved to MAN. the current agreement with the A330's works well, where they get the capacity in the summer without having to worry about the maintenance (too much). Being their 3rd year of operation, Jet2 must be seeing a future for a higher capacity aircraft somewhere down the line. the biggest issue though is the excessive range available, which doesn't quite work for their short haul programmes (Mainland Spain). Mid-haul (Canaries/Turkey) works much better, but i don't believe they are in a position to fully benefit from this. As for long haul, the CEO has said no in the short/mid term, as there's more to do in the core market . I wouldn't expect to see something here for a good few years yet.
the A321neo/ A332/8 would be a good option, along with the MAX 10 (once all issues are rectified and if they're still in production) or the B788. I'm a firm believer that if Boeing actually deliver on the rumoured B797 (Middle of the Market aircraft), this would suit Jet2 perfectly, giving the capacity and range they need. Shame it's not expected until around 2030, but hey ho...


I don't see them launching the South West for quite a while and I think they'll find it uber competitive here.
This has also been covered by the CEO, stating he wants to continue growth at all bases before moving elsewhere. reasonable candidates would probably be CWL, EXT or BOH (BRS is full and SOU doesn't have the runway)

Phwew, i can breathe now...

LBAflyer22 9th Apr 2019 10:34


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10443021)
I don't see them launching the South West for quite a while and I think they'll find it uber competitive here.

Having gone into STN - the Ryanair fortress - i think they'll find BRS and/or CWL and that area a breeze in comparison.

cornishsimon 9th Apr 2019 10:58

Iv got to say I’m a fan of the Jet2 model.

They are being careful with fleet and doing well and seem to be learning from the failures of others so not expanding too rapidly, rather slowly and steadily. This way they haven’t been running into huge staffing or aircraft issues.

Fleet wise. My money says that future fleet expansion once all 738 stock has been used up will probably go towards airbus with a combined fleet of 332/321s but that’s probably quite far off in all honesty.

Expanding further SW, I think there’s probably a market at CWL and BOH, EXT would depend upon how things play out with BE and FR, NQY might throw a curve ball, I wouldn’t rule out NqY as an inbound market if things go slightly wrong with Europe , £/€ etc, it wouldn’t surprise me to see them start offering some package type deals from the midlands and NE into NQY


cs

MerchantVenturer 9th Apr 2019 11:29


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 10443161)
This has also been covered by the CEO, stating he wants to continue growth at all bases before moving elsewhere. reasonable candidates would probably be CWL, EXT or BOH (BRS is full and SOU doesn't have the runway)

flybmi used to park up to seven aircraft at BRS - not any more. Two more aircraft stands are nearing completion to go with four others built in recent years. The airport currently has a planning application lodged with the local authority requesting the current 10 mppa limit be raised to 12 mppa, a figure they project reaching by the mid 2020s.

All that sounds as though there is life in the airport yet. In fact, the master plan consultation documents speak of up to 20 mppa by the 2040s.


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