Originally Posted by irishlad06
(Post 10430695)
2 new routes to be launched. Zadar and Preveza
Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
(Post 10296098)
Announcement to be made Q1 2019, not launch of routes.
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134
(Post 10430705)
Does anyone have any info in when the Glasgow and Edinburgh S20 flights will be released, and if so I wonder if the new routes will be from these bases as well as some other airports.
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Jet 2 have extended / revised the lease deal with Air Tanker - one A330 will be leased all year round until the end of summer 2022- a second A330 will be leased for summer only ending summer 2021 |
What will be the Jet 2 fleet size by peak Summer now please. Does anyone have this information?
Thanks Mudcity I wonder what the winter plan is for the A330 TIGER |
What will be the Jet 2 fleet size by peak Summer now please. Does anyone have this information? Sounds about right when they recently welcomed their 100th into the fleet back in January |
Wonder if the A330 will be in full colours as it is on a long lease.
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Originally Posted by chaps1954
(Post 10432527)
Wonder if the A330 will be in full colours as it is on a long lease.
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Wow but I think the Jet2 red scheme would look better still
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What will be the Jet 2 fleet size by peak Summer now please. Does anyone have this information? |
Originally Posted by chaps1954
(Post 10432550)
Wow but I think the Jet2 red scheme would look better still
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Yes I know but we can all wish
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LS918 Squawk 7700?
LS918 TFN - MAN G-LSAN tonight squawked a general emergency tonight.
Did a couple of holding patterns to the east of Macclesfield before landing. Anyone know what the issue was? |
As mentioned recently here , Jet2 are breaking the mould at BHX finally seeing some older 738s based whilst the better performing 8MG models move elsewhere, JZBB positioned into NCL this afternoon , JZBD & JZHM have swapped for GDFZ & JZHD.
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Jet2 new routes for summer 2020 now on sale.
Birmingham - Preveza = 1x weekly SUN London Stansted - Preveza = 2x weekly WED & SUN London Stansted - Zadar = 2x weekly WED & SUN Manchester - Preveza = 1x weekly SUN Manchester - Zadar = 2x weekly WED & SUN |
still no Scottish routes available for S20? why the delay? |
Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 10437045)
still no Scottish routes available for S20? why the delay? Pointless booking anyway - nothing to do with the B word - the currently available discounting does not go beyond April '20, there in NO Insurance listed for S20 holidays yet and also hopefully the nice Crew on our next holiday flights in May will be dishing out One Time extra discount vouchers to use for S20 Every little helps. |
Surely Stansted is to be their second largest base come 2020? If there’s to be an increase in A330 numbers in the future, Stansted must stand the highest chance of being the next big bus base? |
still no Scottish routes available for S20? why the delay? Nor EMA either. That might explain GLA and EDI, but EMA is part of the MAN/EMA/STN group, so that doesn't make sense |
Summer 2020
Birmingham-Nice also announced as a new route for S20 a few weeks ago.
It looks like Jet2 expansion is focusing primarily on MAN, STN and BHX although I'm sure there will be some announcements from other airports as well. Certainly at BHX there is still more demand for higher frequencies on routes like AGP, TFS, ALC, LPA etc, monthly pax figures are still down on these routes 18 months after the demise of Monarch and there are also some Jet2 suited seasonal city routes that could work from BHX, the primary example being Lisbon (always well loaded when operated by Monarch), plus Athens, Valencia, Seville....however I think these would only be launched in conjunction with other bases and such routes are already covered by other airlines at MAN and STN. Here's hoping! |
Leeds
Does anyone know officially how many aircraft are based at Leeds, by type, either currently or the summer season? Is Leeds still the home of a lot of the maintenance work? I remain fascinated by the quiet utilisation of those 733s. I think 11 are still the fleet but a couple haven’t flown for a while and I think (please correct me) 6 out of the remaining 9 run out of Leeds with, if you’re lucky, one flight a day. |
Leeds base for summer 2019 is as follows
In service 6+ Boeing 737-300 6+ Boeing 737-800 3+ Boeing 757-200 1+ Airbus A320 (Smart Lynx = May 1st to June 18th) Spare back up 1+ Boeing 737-300 1+ Boeing 757-200 Summer 2020 In service 11+ Boeing 737-800 4+ Boeing 737-300 Spare back up 1+ Boeing 737-800 1+ Boeing 737-300 |
Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10438628)
Leeds base for summer 2019 is as follows
In service 6+ Boeing 737-300 6+ Boeing 737-800 3+ Boeing 757-200 1+ Airbus A320 (Smart Lynx = May 1st to June 18th) Spare back up 1+ Boeing 737-300 1+ Boeing 757-200 Summer 2020 In service 11+ Boeing 737-800 4+ Boeing 737-300 Spare back up 1+ Boeing 737-800 1+ Boeing 737-300 Any thoughts on the utilisation of those 733s? Feels like at present at least, far fewer aircraft are actually needed than are based. It certainly feels like a low utilisation. Are those 733s performing well at the moment? Still got 3 x 86-88 build aircraft flying with the remainder mainly 98-99 end of line builds. |
Looks like they have gone a good way to filling the massive hole MON left at BHX
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Leeds base for summer 2019 is as follows In service 6+ Boeing 737-300 6+ Boeing 737-800 3+ Boeing 757-200 1+ Airbus A320 (Smart Lynx = May 1st to June 18th) Spare back up 1+ Boeing 737-300 1+ Boeing 757-200 Summer 2020 In service 11+ Boeing 737-800 4+ Boeing 737-300 Spare back up 1+ Boeing 737-800 1+ Boeing 737-300 This also represents a small peak capacity reduction, assuming each operational aircraft operates 4 sectors a day, S19 has 10,908 seats, S20 has 10,684. although the -800's are more economical, so they could operate more year-round flights? |
All 757s are moving to MAN for next summer.
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Well, if my recent flight with J2 is anything to go by I'll say this; Jet2 appear to be very ably demonstrating how to run a loco airline with good employee conditions, honest dealings/ nice whole flight experiences for their pax and a fair outlook to the future.
I sincerely hope I won't be eating my words in 18 months or so. I mean that. |
I sincerely hope I won't be eating my words in 18 months or so. I mean that. |
Originally Posted by Auxtank
(Post 10442640)
Well, if my recent flight with J2 is anything to go by I'll say this; Jet2 appear to be very ably demonstrating how to run a loco airline with good employee conditions, honest dealings/ nice whole flight experiences for their pax and a fair outlook to the future.
I sincerely hope I won't be eating my words in 18 months or so. I mean that. Long may it continue. Our 2019 plans are ALL using Jet2 flights and Holidays and when the 2020 comes out PROPERLY (not the mess it currently is) we'll be right in there. We HAVE to Plan early due to "circumstances" - cover etc. Now then - if only they would get rid of that mega-annoying Ooh-Ooh "Hold My Hand" song that they pitch at you behind every possible opportunity!! Torture! lol! I know Jess Glynne is a very fine Singer/Songwriter but enough already. |
Certainly have a very big presence at every airport they serve.
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Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants
(Post 10442695)
I’m glad you enjoyed your experience, we put a great deal of effort into our customer service levels offered by our airport and airline crew. Don't change a thing. |
"Hold My Hand"
Originally Posted by Auxtank
(Post 10442761)
It's working.
Don't change a thing. I really wish Jet2 had a presence down here at BOH and maybe EXT to throw off both TUI and FR I should imagine the CEO & the Board are very relieved that Jet2 are not having to face a 737MAX debacle as they did not buy any - In hindsight a wise move. That sort of chaos now being faced by TUI, DY/D8 and other European charter airlines that have their new fleets grounded is crippling and could finish a smaller company off... If Monarch was still here with their new Max's that would have been rather brutal... What are Jet2's future fleet plans ? A320/A321neo's? I see that the fleets of 737-700's of KLM and TUI are being retired, these will be well maintained - a nice little plane - 148 seats with long legs and great performance. One a/c that can get into GIB OK. At Astraeus they could do Egypt as far as Aswan non-stop with a full load, and also across the pond to Deer Park NF. |
What are Jet2's future fleet plans ? A320/A321neo's? |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10442984)
Totally agree - Jet2 are doing really well, riding high, and have an increasing large and very loyal customer base with a good solid product both hard and soft - the TV Ad is way ahead of the daft TUI ones and is uplifting...I like it...
I really wish Jet2 had a presence down here at BOH and maybe EXT to throw off both TUI and FR I should imagine the CEO & the Board are very relieved that Jet2 are not having to face a 737MAX debacle as they did not buy any - In hindsight a wise move. That sort of chaos now being faced by TUI, DY/D8 and other European charter airlines that have their new fleets grounded is crippling and could finish a smaller company off... If Monarch was still here with their new Max's that would have been rather brutal... What are Jet2's future fleet plans ? A320/A321neo's? I see that the fleets of 737-700's of KLM and TUI are being retired, these will be well maintained - a nice little plane - 148 seats with long legs and great performance. One a/c that can get into GIB OK. At Astraeus they could Egypt as far as Aswan non-stop with a full load, and also across the pond to Deer Park NF. |
Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10443018)
Although IT passengers (PAX in general I suspect) don't know a lot about what type of aircraft they are about to board as long as it gets them to their holiday one wonders just how damaged the 737MAX debacle has done to Boeing's brand in the public eye, and how much any damage that has been done might effect Jet2's, and other carriers fleet renewal plans. Whilst the occasional customer service glitch can be annoying, and temporarily damage a brand through keyboard warriors activity, perceived safety may stick rather more stubbornly.
As for Jet 2 as I said, they are breathing a sigh of relief they do not have to deal with the Max damage limitation. Jet 2 cleverly took the last 34 NG slots from Boeing but no more new ones are being built - but now we will see much higher £££ values of second hand a/c, or leases of any 737-800's, or even 700's that are currently, or were, available... Airlines that were due to get rid of their NG's for new Max's are now of course hanging on to them UFN...For Jet 2 that could mean fleet expansion will be a concern. |
Originally Posted by sixchannel
(Post 10442697)
Now then - if only they would get rid of that mega-annoying Ooh-Ooh "Hold My Hand" song that they pitch at you behind every possible opportunity!! Torture! lol! I know Jess Glynne is a very fine Singer/Songwriter but enough already.
On the fleet I'm sure we'll see something like a 737-700 come in to replace the 733's. They served a purpose for the airline and whilst in growth the 738's have matched demand increase on a lot of former 733 routes, there are still some routes, like the aforementioned GIB and some city routes from the likes of LBA and BFS that you would think it is perfect for. I think as the 757's go, we will see them go down the A330 route. I think neo's are out of the question for a long while. Jet 2 buy second hand and maintain extremely well. The only reason they went for new 738's was they got a cracking deal on end of the line models, you're talking years until the neo gets to the end of the line. The 332 could fil PMI from MAN twice a day quite comfortably, and there is routes to the Canaries, Greece and Turkey that could support 2/3 332 services a week no problem (that's without the potential, if not very likely expansion into long haul). Either way its exciting times ahead for EXS |
Yes Jet2 have a good product but it will be interesting to see their results when they are released. EasyJet, TUI and Thomas Cook are all reporting difficult trading with margins under pressure. As Jet2 works to smaller margins anyway it is difficult to see how Jet2 cannot be affected in some way. Although there is some brand loyalty this sector is notoriously price sensitive. |
On the fleet I'm sure we'll see something like a 737-700 come in to replace the 733's. They served a purpose for the airline and whilst in growth the 738's have matched demand increase on a lot of former 733 routes, there are still some routes, like the aforementioned GIB and some city routes from the likes of LBA and BFS that you would think it is perfect for. Also to throw my pennies into the well of Jet2 praise, i haven't seen on here someone mention the TripAdvisor awards, where Jet2 scooped 5, including the prestigious #9 airline in the WORLD, being the only UK & European operator in the top 10. Given the amount of praise they get, including all you Ppruners, it's hard not to see why. I think as the 757's go, we will see them go down the A330 route. I think neo's are out of the question for a long while. Jet 2 buy second hand and maintain extremely well. The only reason they went for new 738's was they got a cracking deal on end of the line models, you're talking years until the neo gets to the end of the line. The 332 could fil PMI from MAN twice a day quite comfortably, and there is routes to the Canaries, Greece and Turkey that could support 2/3 332 services a week no problem (that's without the potential, if not very likely expansion into long haul). Either way its exciting times ahead for EXS the A321neo/ A332/8 would be a good option, along with the MAX 10 (once all issues are rectified and if they're still in production) or the B788. I'm a firm believer that if Boeing actually deliver on the rumoured B797 (Middle of the Market aircraft), this would suit Jet2 perfectly, giving the capacity and range they need. Shame it's not expected until around 2030, but hey ho... I don't see them launching the South West for quite a while and I think they'll find it uber competitive here. Phwew, i can breathe now... |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10443021)
I don't see them launching the South West for quite a while and I think they'll find it uber competitive here.
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Iv got to say I’m a fan of the Jet2 model. They are being careful with fleet and doing well and seem to be learning from the failures of others so not expanding too rapidly, rather slowly and steadily. This way they haven’t been running into huge staffing or aircraft issues. Fleet wise. My money says that future fleet expansion once all 738 stock has been used up will probably go towards airbus with a combined fleet of 332/321s but that’s probably quite far off in all honesty. Expanding further SW, I think there’s probably a market at CWL and BOH, EXT would depend upon how things play out with BE and FR, NQY might throw a curve ball, I wouldn’t rule out NqY as an inbound market if things go slightly wrong with Europe , £/€ etc, it wouldn’t surprise me to see them start offering some package type deals from the midlands and NE into NQY cs |
Originally Posted by Plane.Silly
(Post 10443161)
This has also been covered by the CEO, stating he wants to continue growth at all bases before moving elsewhere. reasonable candidates would probably be CWL, EXT or BOH (BRS is full and SOU doesn't have the runway)
All that sounds as though there is life in the airport yet. In fact, the master plan consultation documents speak of up to 20 mppa by the 2040s. |
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