Happy new year everyone, It seems Tui have had a big delay on flight BY1265 the Tenerife flight. It was scheduled to land at 18:15 and is now due to land at 02:45! It's also being operated by EC-ISY a privilege style B757-200.
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TUI NAP
Monday morning Naples looks like it’s no longer available with TUI EDI-DLM-NCL-DLM-EDI replacing it Also the Freebird/“Other Carrier” Sunday DLM is gone too |
Originally Posted by natmci
(Post 10652399)
Monday morning Naples looks like it’s no longer available with TUI EDI-DLM-NCL-DLM-EDI replacing it |
Originally Posted by Plane mad 134
(Post 10651032)
Next year that will change to only Sunday it will be away as the Sharm El Sheikh will be on a Monday, so either it will swap with a MAN based aircraft on a Sunday, undergo routine checks at EDI on a Sunday or they will fill the gap with an extra weekly flight.
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Don't they just use easyJet on dates when they don't fly themselves?
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Originally Posted by inOban
(Post 10652686)
Don't they just use easyJet on dates when they don't fly themselves?
Might be linked to easyJet Holidays launching |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10652650)
Yes the NAP flight has been gone for a while but there was still a gap in the morning. Disappointing that the aircraft will now be operating a w-pattern elsewhere rather than operating another route from EDI. NCL is already planned to have four based aircraft yet TUI can’t even fully utilise one aircraft from EDI, a much busier airport than NCL. Last time I checked NAP was still showing for S21 so hopefully it will eventually start or some other new route. |
Originally Posted by LiamNCL
(Post 10652750)
EDI is a busier airport you are right but TUI have well known aircraft issues and Newcastle has lost 2x Thomas Cook A321 aircraft for Summer 2020, People still want to fly from here aswell for their holidays.
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Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10652755)
Absolutely, I’m not disputing that. It’s great that there’s significant expansion at NCL from TUI, I just wish it wasn’t at the expense of EDI which only has one based aircraft compared to NCL’s four. There is however a chance some of the recently announced expansion from various bases will be reversed for S20, perhaps TUI are no longer able to commit to 4x738 at NCL all week and are filling some gaps with w-patterns. It could be a while still before we know for sure TUI’s plans for S20. |
Originally Posted by natmci
(Post 10652701)
Looking at the TUI website it doesn’t seem that they’ve got any holidays with flights on easyJet anymore, from any of their airports Might be linked to easyJet Holidays launching |
I imagine that TUI might retrench from smaller markets where EasyJet are dominant. Edinburgh would fit this bill and Luton is in a similar position. There are some places where they might perceive they might take Easy on successfully ( obviously Gatwick and Manchester and Bristol perhaps). This is likely to be exacerbated by a shortage of aircraft.
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It depends at what price level easyJet are pitching their holidays. Edinburgh is quite a prosperous area and I'm surprised that TUI haven't grown a larger longhaul holiday business out of EDI, although they have recently been using Qatar for this.
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Originally Posted by inOban
(Post 10653041)
It depends at what price level easyJet are pitching their holidays. Edinburgh is quite a prosperous area and I'm surprised that TUI haven't grown a larger longhaul holiday business out of EDI, although they have recently been using Qatar for this.
I arrived back into EDI yesterday evening on a TUI flight and the crew announced they were “launching a new route from Edinburgh to Naples for this summer”, along with SSH from November. So clearly the crews haven’t been informed of the dropped NAP for S20. |
TUI
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10653784)
This was also my thinking, their long-hail offering from EDI has always been fairly pathetic and whilst it’s better than nothing, it’s certainly disappointing. Even DSA will see much more long-haul from TUI and it’s not as if there are other airlines serving Orlando or Cancun from EDI (or other Caribbean destinations for that matter). Even for short-haul though, there are routes not flown by EZY/RYR from EDI that TUI operate from other bases which are much smaller airports that I’m confident would do well from EDI. Of course however, I’m sure TUI know what is best for them (well given limited capacity anyway). I arrived back into EDI yesterday evening on a TUI flight and the crew announced they were “launching a new route from Edinburgh to Naples for this summer”, along with SSH from November. So clearly the crews haven’t been informed of the dropped NAP for S20. There seams to be a disconnect with what is being advertised and what is available. Are TUI really committed to EDI or just playing at it? (Yes IMHO) Crews are all GLA based right? |
Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam
(Post 10654060)
SSH only starts in Nov2020 through to April 2021 when Naples then takes over the Monday slot through S21, according to their timetable on the website. There seams to be a disconnect with what is being advertised and what is available. Are TUI really committed to EDI or just playing at it? (Yes IMHO) Crews are all GLA based right? |
10 year challenge
Saw something similar done for another airport so have compared the change in route traffic numbers between September 2019 and 2009. Notably September 2009 was just prior to the closure of FlyGlobespan. International 20 largest increases and decreases 2019 2009 Change DUBLIN 56257 36567 19690AMSTERDAM 61493 41999 19494 DUBAI 17422 0 17422 TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA) 19333 3604 15729 DOHA HAMAD 15362 0 15362 COPENHAGEN 20674 7382 13292 BARCELONA 16392 3680 12712 PALMA DE MALLORCA 32388 20884 11504 BALE MULHOUSE 11420 0 11420 HAMBURG 11042 169 10873 FARO 16615 6238 10377 BERLIN (TEGEL) 10215 0 10215 STOCKHOLM (ARLANDA) 11606 1702 9904 MADRID 18576 9198 9378 MUNICH 17781 8535 9246 PHILADELPHIA INTERNATIONAL 9175 0 9175 CHICAGO (O'HARE) 8999 0 8999 MALAGA 21135 12282 8853 BRUSSELS 13782 4935 8847 PRAGUE 12938 4093 8845 AVIGNON 0 928 -928 POZNAN 3252 4199 -947 CARCASSONNE 2720 3717 -997 GALWAY 0 1472 -1472 HAUGESUND 0 1520 -1520 SHARM EL SHEIKH (OPHIRA) 0 1698 -1698 BRATISLAVA 3254 5274 -2020 STOCKHOLM (SKAVSTA) 2750 4884 -2134 LIMOGES 0 2220 -2220 POITIERS 0 2275 -2275 ZADAR 0 2511 -2511 LODZ LUBLINEK 0 2941 -2941 ALTENBURG - WALLBURG 0 3034 -3034 CAGLIARI (ELMAS) 0 3370 -3370 SHANNON 2864 7195 -4331 NIEDERRHEIN 4201 8631 -4430 HAHN 0 5376 -5376 MURCIA SAN JAVIER 0 5420 -5420 BREMEN 0 5856 -5856 NEW YORK (NEWARK) 9469 17591 -8122 Domestic to follow.... |
10 year challenge
Domestic Some of the data on the CAA website looks strange (nothing for Belfast, Bristol or Birmingham) so I have just included those where there is data. 2019 2009 Change LONDON CITY 45092 30052 15040 STANSTED 40589 32939 7650 GATWICK 61479 58079 3400 KIRKWALL 4771 3640 1131 SUMBURGH 4156 3129 1027 EXETER 5867 5720 147 ISLE OF MAN 779 1097 -318 LUTON 27499 27902 -403 JERSEY 2531 3023 -492 STORNOWAY 1718 2807 -1089 NORWICH 3327 4461 -1134 SOUTHAMPTON 15574 18028 -2454 MANCHESTER 9731 14119 -4388 HEATHROW 98924 116289 -17365 |
Originally Posted by CKT789
(Post 10654537)
10 year challenge
Domestic Some of the data on the CAA website looks strange (nothing for Belfast, Bristol or Birmingham) so I have just included those where there is data. 2019 2009 Change LONDON CITY 45092 30052 15040 STANSTED 40589 32939 7650 GATWICK 61479 58079 3400 KIRKWALL 4771 3640 1131 SUMBURGH 4156 3129 1027 EXETER 5867 5720 147 ISLE OF MAN 779 1097 -318 LUTON 27499 27902 -403 JERSEY 2531 3023 -492 STORNOWAY 1718 2807 -1089 NORWICH 3327 4461 -1134 SOUTHAMPTON 15574 18028 -2454 MANCHESTER 9731 14119 -4388 HEATHROW 98924 116289 -17365 |
Cardiff had no data for 2009 (similar to Bristol, Birmingham and Belfast) so I left it out as I assumed it was a fault in the CAA data. 2019 figure was 10,386 passengers.
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Originally Posted by CKT789
(Post 10654547)
Cardiff had no data for 2009 (similar to Bristol, Birmingham and Belfast) so I left it out as I assumed it was a fault in the CAA data. 2019 figure was 10,386 passengers.
The numbers are from Domestic route analysis under the relevant airports section. |
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