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Thomas Cook are to base an Airbus A320 next summer at Leeds/Bradford to fill in some of the voids left behind after Monarch's sad collapse earlier this week.

The based aircraft will operate 12x weekly services to 7x destinations which includes flights to Palma, Mahon, Tenerife, Larnaca, Dalaman, Antalya and Enfidha

Mondays
TCX1196/119 = Palma 06:00/12:25
TCX160/161 = Dalaman 14:25-00:25
Tuesdays
TCX192/193 = Enfidha 05:00-13:15
TCX1188/1189 = Tenerife 14:25-00:35
Wednesdays
TCX1140/1141 = Larnaca 07:00-17:55
TCX160/161 = Dalaman 19:10-04:55
Thursdays
TCX1116/1117 = Palma 06:10-12:35
TCX162/163 = Antalya 13:50-23:55
Fridays
TCX1096/1097 = Mahon 04:45-11:05
TCX196/197 = Enfidha 13:00-21:15
Saturdays
TCX164/165 = Dalaman 07:00-03:40 W-leg
Sundays
TCX168/169 = Antalya 06:00–03:30 W-leg

Wonder if they are paying Thomas Cook to bring in the aircraft like Monarch.

I've no idea if LBA are giving Thomas Cook free landing & parking fees like they did with Monarch for first year of operation. Its a good incentive to do deals like that if it brings in money for the airport. LBA are not alone as other airports are known to do it.

Saw the new CEO David Laws appear on BBC Local News the other day saying they will be further announcements over next few weeks from Ryanair, Jet2 and TUi, regards replacing capacity lost after Monarch's sad collapse.

Not knocking the airport. Interesting to see the management can get a full based aircraft in a week. Wonder why my local cannot do that. Presume two rotations a day doesn't make massive employment.

TUi have added 2 new routes from Leeds to Malaga and Dalaman for next summer 2018 using the based aircraft.

Mondays
TOM3172/3173 = Ibiza 09:40-19:55 (W-legs to Liverpool)
TOM3157/3158 = Corfu 21:40-04:35
Tuesdays
TOM3250/3251 = Palma 08:05-14:30
TOM3370/3371 = Dalaman 16:00-01:50
Wednesdays
TOM3316/3317 = Palma 06:00-12:25
TOM3338/3339 = Paphos 13:55-00:50
Thursdays
TOM3432/3433 = Palma 06:25-13:05
TOM3404/3405 = Bourgas 14:35-22:35
Fridays
TOM3550/3551 = Corfu 08:25-16:30
TOM3506/3507 = Mahon 17:50-23:50
Saturdays
TOM3618/3619 = Palma 07:50-14:15
TOM3646/3647 = Rhodes 15:50-01:10
Sundays
TOM3744/3745 = Malaga 06:05-13:15
TOM3748/3749 = Tenerife 15:05-01:30
TOM3710/3711 = Palma 18:40-01:05

Looks like a 2nd based aircraft is required on Sunday evening unless they do a bit of rescheduling

The Sunday PMI will likely be a W pattern from another base.

It is nice to see that LBA is doing so well with international flights, however an advert flashed up on this site to premote Virgin train times from Leeds to London as being 2 hours 13 minutes. I wonder in the long term if this will gain customers from BA or other routes, especially so when the high speed link is finished.

It may do. From a time perspective, you could argue the time taken to fly LBA-LHR (1hr?) but then all the waiting in queue, then transferring into London makes it look pointless.

However from a connectivity perspective, people would still use the flights to connect onto onward destinations, much less hassle than lugging all your luggage onto a train, where you may/may not have space for it, onlt to then transfer further toawrds LHR/LGW.

End of the day, the demand will still be there

Apparently LBA-LHR provides a higher % of connecting passengers than any other domestic flight on the BA network.

Not everyone taking the flight is heading up to London, those that are may prefer the train, but for those heading for the Thames valley and other points south or west of London, flying may well be much more convenient.

As for those with onward connections, it's a no-brainer!

I also suspect there is a fair amount of LHR originating traffic on this route as anyone living west of zone 3 can probably get to central Leeds quicker on the plane than on the train. The lack of a nightstopper at LBA also means that the schedules work out better for those commuting up to Leeds for the day than those coming south.

Australian investment fund AMP Capital acquires Leeds Bradford:

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/...fund-1-8811675

Interesting development there. In the article, it mentions they also own Newcastle Airport.
Assuming this refers to NCL-UK and not NTL-Aus, could the recent arrival of the new CEO (from NCL) have anything to do with this?

Interesting statement from the new owners...also includes investment fund jargon speak..
"clear opportunity for performance enhancement"......= sweating the assets...Good luck perhaps in order.

AMP Capital holds 49% of Newcastle (UK)... Yes, a very intriguing move given the fairly recently appointment of the former NCL CEO at LBA. I'm at LBA next week and should be talking to the boss - an interesting question I think!

Laws also worked for AMP between NCL and LBA

Newcastle Airport's part owner buys Leeds Bradford Airport - Chronicle Live

This is an interesting deal.

Both Newcastle airport and Leeds Bradford airport have seen huge increases in passenger numbers since these private investment companies got involved with the ownership of them.

But both airports have also seen debts building at an alarming rate over many years while both battled for passengers.

It has been reported Leeds Bradford airport (group of companies) debt are over £200 million.

It has been reported Newcastle airport (group of companies) debt are over £400 million.

I'm sure all will end better now one company has control of both airports.

Bridgepoint have realised what everyone who is not a blinkered Yeadon spotter knows. Wrong location and cannot function. Diversions in the morning because of low cloud and diversions in the same evening because of 90 degree crosswinds! - par for the Yeadon course. Literally a third of the passengers that could and should and will be being moved from the main airport for Yorkshire [if situated and connected properly].

What we can say is that the owner entrance 'plans' strangely enough never materialise. Of course they don't.

If this site is not a housing estate between 10 and 20 years I'll eat my underpants! Just keep watching in this region.

Better make sure they are washed then

He comes and goes with what seems like weeks away from the forum but sure enough whenever he returns it's the same old rhetoric reiterating his long term agenda!

Now the term 'underpants' sounds a bit old fashioned but I hope you eventually enjoy eating them washed or unwashed.

The new owners AMP Capital have issued a press release on its own website regards its acquisition of Leeds/Bradford Airport from Bridgepoint Capital. It looks to be the same one as issued on the airports own website.
No official figures have been released, but sources say they have paid somewhere between £200-220 million

https://www.ampcapital.com/site-asse...adford-airport

Does that mean the other 2/3 of the 4m pax that use LBA would still use it. Still a lot of people IMO. As you elegently point out in previous posts, the leakage to other airports is real, just not to this scale. People will just use the cheapest and closest airport to them, thats why bucket 'n' spade works at LBA and other destinations work well from MAN.

As for being a housing estate, even if LBA did shut down, i doubt this would be the case. If it does, begsy the 4 bed detatched over the A658 bridge:E

Well undercrackers or not, looks like his Church Fenton can has just been kicked even further down a very long road ;)

Well you better tell the new owners AMP Capital that the doing something right up at LBA. As it's broke 4 million pax (12 month rolling) figure for the first time ever...

August 2017 = 524,707 +15.11%
September 2017 = 464,222 +14.62%.

Meaning that 4,038,772 passengers have used LBA over the past 12 months rolling upto September 2017.

It I'll be interesting to see the 12 month rolling year to end figures for 2017, as we should see what effect the collapse of Monarch has had.

. Wonder if that has paid the debt off or does the debt come with the purchase and the previous owners have the money in the bank.

Notice Leeds Bradford has re appeared as a destination on EasyJet’s website, however no routes available to book yet.. Anyone know if they are planning a route launch in the near future.

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Is it not the GVA winter route

No destinations are available to select, don’t recall seeing LBA on the drop down list last week.

I'm sure it was confirmed earlier this summer that Easyjet would not be returning to operate the LBA-GVA route for the winter 2017/18 season.

Actually, if the land ever became worth more for housing than as an airport, that's the one situation where I could see change happening. Could you get 2000 houses on there at 100k a plot?

It is not really about how many houses or what the land is worth. Not at all.

It IS about the Billions of £££s that have been squandered [or rather given away to MAN, EMA etc etc}. Economic suicide!

Directly because the airport is in the exact wrong location to tap its potential catchment allied to the fact that it simply cannot function as a modern 21st century airport. A conurbation this size not having regular (or otherwise) wide bodied flights would not happen anywhere else in continental Europe.

I love the place but as an airport it is a toytown joke.

What will be the next [of a long long line] of route failures due to the above? Leave your answers here.

Here's an answer, Leeds Approach. Change the record or kindly go away. Please.

Well over 6 years since the first commercial flight of a B787 Dreamliner - not 1 movement at Leeds Bradford!

22 years + since the first commercial flight of B777 - not 1 movement at toytown LBA!

Don't worry though 6 million people in Yorkshire - use your hard earned and heavily taxed savings to get yourself to Manchester.

The Government certainly do love Yorkshire and Humberside folk! Guess why they flock up here when there is an election!!?

Even if Yorkshire had the perfect airport like you want it's close proximity to MAN would still make it extremely hard for it to attract wide bodied flights even from an airline like TUI.

Quite simply the extrapolation of known and accepted statistics/facts show that your statement is incorrect. Totally incorrect.

We don't require a 'perfect' airport. Just an sensibly located airport (for its potential catchment) that can work properly.

If I remember correctly Leeds has had widebody jets, but times change many of the major airlines prefer to operate from just a few main airports and send a token operation
to others. TUI choose DSA as their Yorkshire operation so won`t be sending B788 to Leeds not that they do from DSA either

Leeds Approach hasn’t extrapolated any statistics, as has been posted by this person in the past, the argument made is based on spurious data and false assumptions of grandeur.

Please go away.

Leeds Approach, thankfully on his rare visits, waxes lyrically indeed but has never yet advanced anything approaching, even an outline, financial plan to achieve same :ugh: and more to the point never will

hi all
DONT BITE LADS DONT BITE

Absolutely HERE HERE.

Where does this guy go to and then after a short break from Pprune reappears with the same agenda, every single time with the same boring rhetoric, can't the mods deal with him because it's got well past a joke now and I think that many on here feel the same as every time he posts he hijacks the thread with the same old argument that he continually puts across.

I personally think he has issues other than aviation related ones.