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TimmyW 19th Sep 2019 21:16


Originally Posted by LBIA (Post 10573909)
Posted elsewhere that Flybe have confirmed today that it's withdrawing all services from DSA as of October 26th, 2019.
This includes the planned winter flights to Amsterdam & Belfast City routes which have being sale since the base closure announcement earlier this summer.
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Gone for good I expect now. Who else is realistically going to pick up these lost routes?

brian_dromey 20th Sep 2019 09:00


Originally Posted by TimmyW (Post 10574007)
Gone for good I expect now. Who else is realistically going to pick up these lost routes?

Maybe Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart/Connect) for DUB?

MDS 20th Sep 2019 15:07


Originally Posted by brian_dromey (Post 10574328)


Maybe Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart/Connect) for DUB?

RYR would be prime as EI tried DUB as recently as 2015.

Either would be nice though.

Alwayslistening 21st Sep 2019 18:15


Originally Posted by TimmyW (Post 10574007)
Gone for good I expect now. Who else is realistically going to pick up these lost routes?

"From a DSA perspective, the Amsterdam and Belfast routes have proved popular with a 25 per cent increase in passenger numbers over the summer versus last year, with near full aircraft.

"We look forward to another strong year for Doncaster Sheffield Airport, thanks to our continuing partnerships with our growing airlines Wizz Air and TUI."

Seems as if the connect airways “master plan” is starting to be implemented with the “Flybe” flights being pulled back to ultimate serve Virgins needs ie feed traffic to LHR/MAN. Makes no sense for virgin to operate out of Doncaster and they evidently have no plan to ever provide feed traffic as per their recent LHR announcement.

I still fail to see what Stobart have gotten out of the connect airways arrangement, so far just taking over Isle of Man with two ATRs...

Flybe have proved there is demand at DSA for a variety of routes. It just needs to be operated by a company that sees value in being here and actually has competent management to enact a strategy.

Alteagod 21st Sep 2019 18:51

LM might take over the DSA from BHD or to BHD etc

CabinCrewe 21st Sep 2019 19:25

Was it a case of BE - use it or lose it? Noone used them (enough) and you lost it?

PDXCWL45 21st Sep 2019 21:09


Originally Posted by Alwayslistening (Post 10575525)

I still fail to see what Stobart have gotten out of the connect airways arrangement, so far just taking over Isle of Man with two ATRs...

Maybe in the long run they will takeover the regional part?

Cazza_fly 21st Sep 2019 22:50


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10575562)
Was it a case of BE - use it or lose it? Noone used them (enough) and you lost it?

With some of the consistent highest load-factors on the network, i'd say that is not the case.

ExpectmorePayless 22nd Sep 2019 15:43

AMS could be KL or EZY.
KL operated before to Sheffield City airport using F50 so will know the loads and revenue they can expect on such a route.
They already operate to Leeds and Humberside, but it might offer additional feed to their hub network. Smallest aircraft is now E175.

EZY could operate A319 from their AMS base, however the aircraft might be a little too big for the market.

MDS 22nd Sep 2019 16:12

Ideally I'd love to see FR for DUB, AGP, and ALC, with KL for AMS.

KL does rather well at Humberside, and can bring in a lot of business and VFR pax for onward destinations from AMS. If they can make HUY, MME, NWI work on multiple daily frequencies, I have no doubt they could do the same at DSA.

Load factors for BE routes were always high, but it depends on the overall yield they were generating. Airlines with a lower cost base (eg. FR) could certainly make some of those routes work I'm sure. FR has bases in DUB, AGP, ALC, FAO, PMI, BCN etc. and could possibly make a NCL style situation work without needing to base crew or aircraft at Doncaster.

Could sound like pie in the sky though.

mmeteesside 22nd Sep 2019 19:37

KLM tried Liverpool alongside Manchester not too long ago with a predictable result.

BACsuperVC10 23rd Sep 2019 12:53


Originally Posted by mmeteesside (Post 10576429)
KLM tried Liverpool alongside Manchester not too long ago with a predictable result.

KLM were doing well from Liverpool and increased from 3 to 4 per day, that's until Easyjet saw them off.

AirportPlanner1 21st Oct 2019 21:03

Big announcement tomorrow, according to Caroline Flint on C4 News

TimmyW 21st Oct 2019 22:06

TUI 4th based aircraft

egcntristar 22nd Oct 2019 07:42

Very good and unexpected news, they are putting their money where their mouth is. Should nicely offset the Flybe exit.

A quick search is showing FUE as a new destination weekly and the return of HER weekly.

AYT increases from 1 to 3 weekly
DLM from 2 to 5 weekly
ACE from 2 to 3 weekly
TFS from 2 to 3 weekly
AGP from 2 to 3 weekly
IBZ from 1 to 2 weekly
LCA from 1 to 2 weekly
ZTH from 2 to 3 weekly

pug 22nd Oct 2019 09:47

Lauda to PMI too?

MDS 22nd Oct 2019 10:12

Good news with TUI.

Source on Lauda?

davidjpowell 22nd Oct 2019 20:09


Originally Posted by egcntristar (Post 10600413)
Very good and unexpected news, they are putting their money where their mouth is. Should nicely offset the Flybe exit.

A quick search is showing FUE as a new destination weekly and the return of HER weekly.

AYT increases from 1 to 3 weekly
DLM from 2 to 5 weekly
ACE from 2 to 3 weekly
TFS from 2 to 3 weekly
AGP from 2 to 3 weekly
IBZ from 1 to 2 weekly
LCA from 1 to 2 weekly
ZTH from 2 to 3 weekly

Business routes now bucket and spade. Not ideal.

bad bear 6th Nov 2019 22:36

it might be an error, but, the flight radar 24 departures for Doncaster shows only 5-7 departures per day this week and the Wednesday shows one flight pre 7 am and the rest around 10 pm.... is the airport dead?
bb

SWBKCB 7th Nov 2019 06:05


Originally Posted by bad bear (Post 10612670)
it might be an error, but, the flight radar 24 departures for Doncaster shows only 5-7 departures per day this week and the Wednesday shows one flight pre 7 am and the rest around 10 pm.... is the airport dead?
bb

No, hibernating. With Flybe gone, that sounds about right. Early November, quietest time of the year. Just look around the other regional airports.


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