Sorry I meant Stornoway, it was a medical emergency .

Leaving issues such as crosswind limits etc. aside: KOI and LSI have 1.428m and 1.500m runways. LCY has 1.508m and has seen ER3 ops by Jetmagic and Luxair. So just looking at the runway length, it should be doable for sn ER3 .For the ERJ145EP, takeoff field length TOW for 400nm, full PAX, ISA, SL is 1.410m, for MTOW it is 2.000m+. So it really depends what you are looking for, how much wear and tear you are willing to accept etc. etc., but generally it does not look as if an ER4 could be operated from LSI/KOI in an useful way.

Sadly that has already happened, 1978 I think. At least three work colleagues were killed among others. A Dan Air HS748 that had some modifications done to it by previous owners in South America.
A few weeks later we were taking off for Glasgow late in the evening and hit a gull as we were about ready to lift off, I think it was on the other runway, but we managed to stop. Luckily the Aberdeen charter had not left and I think we all got on it. We missed the train home from there, but no one was complaining. They got us on the BA flight in the morning.

In 2016, Airbus did proving flights to/from SYY with an Airbus A350 so that must have been the largest widebody ever to land there.

In 2001, an AA 767 diverted to SYY because of an medical emergency. Pan Am diversion (mechanical issue) was in 1990. Problem in those cases: No steps available for a widebody.

Are Loganair in possession of an ER3?.

Yes they use one on INV-MAN

Ian

Below is a complete list of the current Loganair Embraer fleet and their operations on 1st March:

E135 x1
G-SAJB - Operating Loganair routes from INV

E145 x7
G-RJXC - Operating the Airbus shuttle - BRS/TLS/CEG
G-RJXD - Operating Loganair routes from INV
G-RJXE - Operating for flybe ABZ-NWI
G-RJXH - Operating the Airbus shuttle - BRS/TLS/CEG
G-RJXI - Operating Loganair routes from LDY-STN
G-RJXM - Positioned to ABZ on 28-Feb
G-SAJC - Operating Loganair routes from GLA

I imagine a few more aircraft will transfer over. They will require one for Newcastle, when those flights begin later this month.
Also, Glasgow to Dusseldorf starts at the end of this month. There was also supposed to be a further two Embraers transferring to Loganair for summer 19 anyway.
Plus with the Southend flights being announced, a would suspect further aircraft will be required for these services.

I'm sure they will need a few more transferred as required.
Tomorrow they start Esjberg and Oslo from ABZ. They have one aircraft in ABZ already and an extra one in INV. However they have a flight from Bristol in the morning that looks like it will do the Monday flight to Esjberg this week. For the rest of the week the one aircraft will cover both routes as Oslo is later in the day.
I wonder if the aircraft at INV will reposition to Bristol today or if they have another ready to release.
Edit: They have an 1805 from ABZ to Bristol tonight so could use the spare one from INV tomorrow.

Did DAT start Esjberg-Aberdeen?

Just answered my own question by looking at the ABZ thread. Will be interested to see who comes out on top.

Loganair are also up against SAS on the Oslo route. It's a hard game.

As were bmi...the DAT operation on EBJ is new

Time for Loganair to set up a subsidiary company using aircraft chartered from the parent. It can be called 'British Midland Airways'.

I got that wrong, they are using the Norwich aircraft for EBJ on Mondays. The one that overnights at Bristol on Sunday night comes up to ABZ and then does Oslo. It appears that there is a spare aircraft at INV for now.

Looks like another 3 ex BMI ERJ145 have transfered to Loganair now
G-EMBI now reg. G-SAJG
G-EMBJ now reg. G-SAJH
G-EMBN now reg. G-SAJI

Would Loganair take any of the larger Embraer EG E175/190 as o thought at one point ,Stobart and Eastern had some from Flybe.
Eastern Did have the E170 but not sure where they are now . Was probably a better bet than the ones Loganair plan to use at LSI.

To be pedantic only one of Sumburgh's runways has sea either end, I was there 1989-91 and the fire men could still tell horrific stores of the Danair 748 and BA Chinook!! The co-pilot of the Chinook was still flying S61's at LSI and did a mean curry night at the Sumburgh hotel!! Biggest jet in my day was Maersk B732 diverting in from Faro with gravel kits on, only saw them use 15/33 mind you!
Sorry ramble over carry on......

The E170 that Eastern / Flybe flew ABZ LSI ABZ LSI EDI LSI GLA SYY GLA LSI ABZ LSI ABZ was mostly carrying very low numbers. It also could not land in LSI in adverse weather. This had all been forecast on this thread, or maybe the Eastern thread, before it started.
There is a limited amount of passengers available at LSI and SYY, like elsewhere people prefer to travel in their cars, or even by bus or train, even when it means a ferry journey. At one time it was common for people to fly from GLA to ABZ and INV. I remember flying in a Loganair Trislander from INV to EDI around 1974. Improvements in roads, vehicles and trains has wiped these routes out.
I flew in and out of LSI for 25 years as an oil industry passenger and I can't remember ever using a scheduled airline, it was always charters. That's what worked as the companies needed to avoid overloading Shetland with people that they could not accommodate if delays occurred. The aircraft needed to carry two chopper loads and a few seats for admin folk, chopper crews, etc.

I think you meant to say that only one runway has sea at both ends! The other full length runway is at right angles to the prevailing gales, and anyway has a big hill rising steeply from one end.

Post #347 shows three 135's that have not been transferred, one at Norwich and two at Bristol. I have seen nothing about any change in that status.

Will they now need a third ER3 considering they were already taking two?

G-SAJM is currently a DA42.

Away from the ERJ stuff, G-BVVK is now fully ADS-B compliant with G-SGTS getting the retrofit now it would seem. G-LGNA might also be getting it too.

G-RJXC did some flights tonight, ABZ-SYY-BEB-INV-ABZ. I wonder if they are looking at adding routes for the summer.

Any indication on success or otherwise of bookings on the new BOH-JER and GCI services?

Yes I remember the BEB flights planned along with SYY and LDY from GLA.
My mind had gone back to the BEA Viscounts when planes from Glasgow and Heathrow met at Dalcross. One plane would then fly on to SYY, BEB, GLA, and the other would go to Wick, Orkney and Shetland. Reverse flights would take place later in the day, again meeting at Dalcross. Everyone would mingle in the one lounge while the luggage and fuel was sorted, including the joining passengers and it was quite a sociable event with MP's, Landowners, Ministers of State and of Religion, rubbing shoulders with crofters, tinkers, tailors, soldiers and sailors.
That could never happen today with all the security

I would also be interested to know what loads look like on the "new" (ex flybmi) routes.

AFAIK Flybmi G-RJXB still sitting at LDY in Flybmi colours since 16th Feb when Flybmi went bust. Flew as scheduled from STN to LDY on Saturday 16th Feb but has not moved since. I leave near LDY and could see that it was still sitting today.

I imagine it is owned now by the Administrators/Bankers.