TopBonus Frequent Flier Plan
Being reported that TopBonus (the frequent flier plan that was closely associated, previously spun off from, the now-defunct Air Berlin) has signed up bmi as a new airline partner.
Flights need to be booked via a special URL (https://www.flybmi.com/topbonus) to earn 2,000 miles per flight. More interesting that the URL is flybmi.com, not bmiregional.com. I wonder how much LH Group and Miles & More will care. |
BRS-GOT
The timetable on BM’s website is showing the following 2 x weekly service operating from 28JAN. Flights showing as operating through S18. However flights not yet available to book on website.
BM1857 BRS 13:40 GOT 16:50 ER4 14 BM1856 GOT 11:40 BRS 15:00 ER4 5 BM1856 GOT 14:40 BRS 16:00 ER4 2 I thought that maybe BM are planning for the aircraft to operate to BHX as there is over 18hrs from arriving and departing GOT. BM1441 BHX 06:20 GOT 09:20 ER4 45 BM1443 BHX 12:25 GOT 15:25 ER4 237 BM1443 BHX 13:15 GOT 16:15 ER4 1 BM1442 GOT 09:50 BHX 10:55 ER4 45 BM1444 GOT 15:55 BHX 17:00 ER4 237 BM1444 GOT 16:45 BHX 17:50 ER4 1 However this doesn’t seem to be the case as it doesn’t fit with the BHX-GOT timetable. |
Looks like another of their corporate shuttle flights
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BM1856 on a Friday seems to take 2 hours longer to get back to BRS?
If that's true, maybe it's going via somewhere? Maybe BHX is about to change to being a via? |
Now confirmed on the bmi website
https://www.flybmi.com/press-release...tol-gothenburg (definitely moving away from the bmiregional.com domain then...) |
BM1822 leaves runway at BRS
Statement on BRS website
"After landing at Bristol Airport at 11.36 this morning an Embraer 145 inbound from Frankfurt (flight number BM1822) left the runway while taxiing. Passengers were disembarked and returned to the terminal by coach. None of the 25 people on board were hurt." |
E145 G-CKAG incident at BRS
This looks a bit more serious than the statement above Runway still blocked and could be closed all day Met vis at the time was 300m |
Quite agree jon01..
On the busiest day of the year virtually zero comment over on the BRS thread apart from a non local posting a press article. In other reporting,comments include awaiting clearance of debris from the R/W after CAA accident investigation work. |
I suppose the posts on here could equally have been posted to the BRS thread. In any case for an airport that handles over 8 mppa BRS is generally a relatively quiet board.
I was about to post on the BRS board but it's only a summary of the flights affected. |
Having seen some stills of footage from ITV WestCountry Tonight, it looks like the aircraft has fully departed the taxiway and is on the grass adjoining the point where the taxiway joins the western end of 27.
The hull in question, G-CKAG, is relatively new to the BM fleet, having joined from Hop! in July this year. |
ABZ-NWI
BM are dropping the ABZ-NWI sevice from 11FEB18.
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That's a very long-standing route, but its demise is completely understandable. Much less transfer traffic between the helicopter ports of ABZ and NWI (and many offshore staff are now sent by train instead). Maybe T3 will be able to consolidate things a bit.
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BM S18
Looks as if the current Nordica lease is coming to a end 23MAR18.
Nordica’s CPH-GRQ and CPH-ORB currently operated by a BM ER4 are now showing as being operated by CR7 from 25MAR18. I Have checked Nordica’s schedule and no other routes are showing as being operated by a ER4. |
Not sure where you’ve been checking, but the lease is with LOT.
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Further details about Nordica’s Partnership with LOT can be found here
https://www.nordica.ee/en/about-the-...tevoete-en-us/ |
Indeed, and the ORB-CPH flights are still on LOT’s website showing BM as operating.
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What with all the recent flight cancellations?
LDY - STN cancelled tomorrow AM. |
I suspect that in view of the weather forecast a lot of business meetings have been postponed.
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Not sure it's solely weather related as MUC-SOU has been cancelled on numerous occasions in recent weeks
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Weather not due to hit until Tuesday
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The following BM and SN and LO flights normally operated by BM have been cancelled so far today.
BM1234/BM1233 - BRU-EMA-BRU BM1501/BM1502 - LDY-STN-LDY BM1741/BM1742 - MUC-BGY-MUC BM1747/BM1748 - MUC-BGY-MUC BM1771/BM1772 - MUC-LUZ-MUC BM1801/BM1802 - BRS-ABZ-BRS BM1911/BM1912 - KSD-JKG-FRA-JKG-KSD SN2633/SN2634 - BRU-HAJ-BRU SN3195/SN3196 - BRU-TRN-BRU LO8821/LO8822 - ORB-CPH-ORB LO8841/LO8842 - CPH-GRQ-CPH |
bmi regional cancelled five rotations at BRS yesterday (Sunday).
BM1825/BM1826 BRS-FRA-BRS BM1863/BM1864 BRS-DUS-BRS BM1847/BM1848 BRS-MUC-BRS BM2007/BM2008 BRS-BRU-BRS BM1837/BM1838 BRS-HAM-BRS Four other rotations operated yesterday: BM1845/BM1846 BRS-MUC-BRS BM1885/BM1886 BRS-CDG-BRS BM1807/BM1808 ABZ-BRS-ABZ BM1827/BM1828 BRS-FRA-BRS Today only BM1801/BM1802 BRS-ABZ-BRS has been cancelled as mentioned by BALaddy in #61. The other 14 BRS rotations seem to be operating today. |
I was told they are having crewing issues but would you honestly trust flying with this lot at present!!
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The LDY one is a strange one. Its not as if they are not well rested. They arrive back at CoDA at 930pm, driven to the hotel 5mins away. Report for the 645am dep arr back at 1030 circa and then back to the hotel. Not forgetting its a PSO service
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Buzz, you’ve clearly no idea about FTL scheduling. It’s a min 12 hour rest for based crew, so the late crew can’t do the early rotation without a significant delay to the service to keep them in legal hours to operate. I believe bmi have a 1 hour report time prior to departure as well.
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Originally Posted by buzz_hornet
(Post 10065653)
The LDY one is a strange one. Its not as if they are not well rested. They arrive back at CoDA at 930pm, driven to the hotel 5mins away. Report for the 645am dep arr back at 1030 circa and then back to the hotel. Not forgetting its a PSO service
So they arrive back at 2130, excuse me for suggesting that there are 24 hours in a day, then pax etc. need to be unloaded, post flight duties performed, that would put the crew off duty at 2200, plus 12 hours minimum rest period at home, next earliest report 1000 hours for an 1100 departure. Depending how the FTL's are written the operator may be able to get away with an 11 hour rest period by putting the crew in a hotel, in that scenario next earliest report 0900 hours. 0645 departure, 0545 report, my butt, Atlantic Explorer is right! |
Originally Posted by Fly757X
(Post 10065854)
It is only a single crew aswell. Morning flights occasionally go late too as if they slept in which I can understand.
How would feel if your very early morning flight that you managed to get to the airport for was delayed or cancelled just because the ''crew overslept'' would you be understanding then, I don't think so do you. I can just hear the announcement now ''BMI are sorry to announce the delayed departure of the London Stansted flight due to the crew oversleeping we at BMI hope that you understand and it hasn't inconvenienced you in anyway'' just as one person speaks aloud ''yes I understand fully''. |
Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer
(Post 10066081)
Buzz, you’ve clearly no idea about FTL scheduling. It’s a min 12 hour rest for based crew, so the late crew can’t do the early rotation without a significant delay to the service to keep them in legal hours to operate. I believe bmi have a 1 hour report time prior to departure as well.
no i dont, however a previous contributor explained that they can have a min 8 hr rest period, however i will bow down to those with experience so if thats the case of a 12hr turnaround why have they scheduled a flight less then 12hrs after the previous? |
Because a second crew will operate the early flights. I’ve no idea in this case why the early was cancelled, could be anything from crew sickness to crew being on days off with no replacement possible.
A schedule such as this will require 2 crews, one on earlies and one on lates. |
In general this would either require a second crew or (times permitting) a split duty. I don't know which is the case here.
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when i spoke with someone around this they mentioned the split duty as there was a long enough period between am and pm routes. like i say i can only go by what i was told and as has been pointed out by other posters ever so kindly i've no idea :rolleyes:
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All a split duty does, if achievable, is increasse the subseqent rest period ... I don't know the schedule but lets say they commence duty ay 1600, operate an evening rotation, take a split duty remaining on FDP until off duty the next morning at 1100, that's a 19 hour dury period requiring a 19 hour subsequent rest period and in my day they could only work 90 hours in a fortnight ... Would you like to borrow my calculator?
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That's fine, take it easy. They have been operating on this method for close to a year.
Based on what has previously been mentioned. Report 0545 (based on the mention of a 1hr report time) Dep LDY 0645 Arr STN 0805 Dep Stn 0840 Arr LDY 0955 Back to the hotel Report 1635 Dep LDY 1735 Arr STN 1845 Dep STN1925 Arr LDY 2045 |
If they do that day after day then they are operating illegally which I very much doubt!
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canberra97
I stand corrected :) |
Originally Posted by BAladdy
(Post 10027652)
BM are dropping the ABZ-NWI sevice from 11FEB18.
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Maybe slightly different for airlines however based on my calculation and using the times above
On duty 05:45 - Off Duty 21:30 Split start 10:30 - Split end 15:35 05:45 report time (Maximum Flight Duty Period for 4 sectors is 9 hours) 14:45 will be the latest the crew will be able to come off duty. Split of 05:05 and a split credit of 02:32 (Maximum Allowable will now be 11:32) The actual length of the duty day indicated above is well over this. As another obstacle the minimum request required from one duty to the next is either 12 hours or the total length of the preceding duty (whichever is greater). |
And blocks to blocks it wouldn't be 12 hours to allow a rest period, if at home base it would be 13.5 hours or if crew in a hotel 12.5 hours
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buzz_hornet
That's 8 hours horizontal rest a.k.a. sleep, a minimum rest period of 11 or 12 hours is intended as travelling to/from, a meal or two, bathroom necessaries and 8 hours in bed. Either that or 8 hours bottle to throttle :) |
Quoting eight hours bottle to throttle in this day and age is misleading and irresponsible. Crew members' fitness to fly is determined by their blood alcohol limit and you could easily be well above the limit even if your last alcohol intake was more than eight hours before. The sooner that old mantra is erased from anyone's memory, the safer their future career in aviation will be. Thread drift in the extreme, but an important one.
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