Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10877909)
Is it a subsidy, or no APD?
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Originally Posted by allan1987
(Post 10877881)
BFS is in the bidding for the Aer Lingus A321neos for flights to the US
https://belfastmedia.com/exclusive-a...at-in-the-ring If Aer Lingus did chose BFS they would be able to get the £2.3m yearly subsidy for long haul flights to US from BFS Economics / practicalities do not make sense. |
Where does this two hour figure come from - is it peak time, average? and who knows what it will be like while aviation recovers?
If Aer Lingus can get good money to fly a/c which will otherwise be idle, I would imagine they'll look at anything. |
EI reversing some of the recent pay and roster cuts;
From RTÉ, 19th Sept 2020 Aer Lingus is to restore some of the pay cuts imposed on staff due to the Covid-19 pandemic - but the cuts will be restored more slowly for staff based in Shannon. In an update for employees, the airline said that on the assumption that the Government would align with the European Commission's free movement proposal for air travel in October, it was appropriate to give clarity to staff who have had their pay and hours cut by up to 70% in recent months. JAS |
"Aer Lingus UK" has entered high level discussions with senior British Government officials about operating direct services from the UK to the US according to Irish reporting.
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10916423)
"Aer Lingus UK" has entered high level discussions with senior British Government officials about operating direct services from the UK to the US according to Irish reporting.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10916598)
Aer Lingus UK? That would be British Airways surely??:=
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Presumably Aer Lingus would need to be named in any seperate UK-US air agreement post-Brexit?
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Originally Posted by JSCL
(Post 10916614)
On one hand I think it makes so little sense in IAGs strategy. But on the other, having smaller cheaper aircraft flying TATL might be the winner in the near term.
Presumably Aer Lingus would need to be named in any seperate UK-US air agreement post-Brexit? |
Likely to be MAN and/or EDI.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10916621)
Indeed, and on T&Cs probably much less generous than BA. if these services were to operate from LHR, LGW or MAN then BALPA and the cabin crew unions may well have something to say about it.
Good point; and is such a new agreement in place, or is that another post-Brexit disaster waiting in the wings to happen. As for operating UK-US, fair play, but they'll be openinf new routes with zero market share which given where are is brave. I bet the airports will through money at them though, any port in a storm. I suspect United might walk away from GLA, but the US carriers are way more likely to fight it out at EDI. |
They could replace AA out of Edinburgh
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I’m hearing behind the scenes that it is MAN that is the primary focus. One would be forgiven for thinking that IAG turning the screw on VS is a high consideration.
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Originally Posted by The96er
(Post 10916802)
I’m hearing behind the scenes that it is MAN that is the primary focus.
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MAN-SNN-NYC perhaps?.....now, where have I heard that one before?!
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Linking two airports at neither of which you have a hub. Really?
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Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc
(Post 10875840)
Correct, mid 90s an A330 operated MAN-SNN-USA, around the same time the MD-11 operated BFS-SNN-JFK.
Pax ex Man were able to pre clear US immigration during the SNN transit stop. Again this proved very popular. There was no point trying to continue into the summer season as all the seat capacity was taken ex Ireland. At the time SNN were responsible for the costs of that aircraft and were looking for a way to increase utilisation and revenue when the aircraft would otherwise sit idle. At the time Aer Lingus already had a significant 5th freedom operation through Man. |
Why would they need to go via SNN?
lingus have got A321XLR on order - easy to go UK>US direct cheaply from marginal airports. also, why assume mainland UK. Last I checked Belfast is in the union and might make sense for Lingus to have an operation there, especially if the boarder issue means passengers from NI can no longer easily travel south to get a flight from DUB |
I understand that indeed talks have been had with BFS but I would presume in the current climate all airports are talking to everyone about opportunities for new routes.
It should be noted that when EI did operate the MD from BFS by a country mile most passengers only went as far as SNN for weekend breaks etc. The aircraft though was crammed with pallets of freight. Regularly pax bags bulk loaded to accommodate the cargo. |
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