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As there is unlikely to be any significant changes from now, here is a summary of long haul from Gatwick this coming winter. Let me know of any errors etc and I'll update the post.

Air Transat

Toronto - 7 weekly 313/332 (4x/3x)
Vancouver - 1 weekly 332 (Part season)

British Airways - 13x 772 based

Antigua - 7 weekly 772
Barbados - 12 weekly 772
Bermuda - 5 weekly 772
Cancun - 3 weekly 772
Cape Town - 3 weekly 772
Fort Lauderdale - 3 weekly
Grenada - 2 weekly 772 (via UVF)
Kingston - 3 weekly 772
Male - 3 weekly 772
Mauritius - 4-5 weekly 772
New York JFK - 7 weekly 772
Orlando - 7 weekly 772
Oakland - 3 weekly
Port of Spain - 5 weekly 772 (via UVF)
Providenciales - 2 weekly 772 (via ANU)
Punta Cana - 2 weekly 772
St Kitts - 2 weekly 772 (via ANU)
St Lucia - 7 weekly 772
San Jose de Costa Rica - 3 weekly 772
Tampa - 6 weekly 772
Tobago - 2 weekly 772 (via ANU)

Cathay Pacific

Hong Kong - 7 weekly 359

China Airlines

Taipei - (New) 4x weekly 359 (from 01/12)

Emirates

Dubai - 21 weekly 388

Iraqi Airways

Baghdad - 1 weekly 738
Sulaymaniyah - 1 weekly 738

Med-View Airline

Lagos - 4 weekly 763/744

Norwegian Long Haul - 8x 789 based (?)

Boston - 5 weekly 789
Buenos Aires - (New) 4 weekly 789 (from 14/02)
Denver - 3 weekly 789
Fort Lauderdale - 4 weekly 789
Las Vegas - 2 weekly 789
Los Angeles - 7 weekly 789
New York JFK - 13 weekly 789
Oakland - 4 weekly 789
Orlando - 2 weekly 789
Seattle - 4 weekly 789
Singapore - 4 weekly 789

Thomas Cook Airlines - 1-2 332 based

Banjul - 3-4 weekly 321/753
Barbados - (New) 1 weekly 332
Cancun - 1-2 weekly 332
Cape Town - 3 weekly 332
Goa - 1-3 weekly 332
Sal - 1 weekly 321/753

Thomson Airways - 2x 789, 1x 788 based (?)

Barbados - 1-2 weekly 787
Boa Vista - 3 weekly 752
Cancun - 4 weekly 787
Colombo - 0.5 weekly 787
Goa - 1 weekly 787
La Romana - (New) 1 weekly 787 (from 22/11)
Liberia - 1 weekly 787
Mauritius - 1 weekly 787
Montego Bay - 3-4 weekly 787
Phuket - 1.5 weekly 787
Phu Quoc - (New) 1 weekly 787 (from 01/11)
Puerto Plata - 1 weekly 787
Puerto Vallarta - 1 weekly 787
Punta Cana - 2 weekly 787
Sal - 4 weekly 752
St Lucia - 0.5 weekly 787
Varadero - 1 weekly 787

Tianjin Airlines

Chongqing - 2 weekly 332
Tianjin - 2 weekly 332 (via CKG)

Virgin Atlantic Airways - 4x 744, 2x 333 based

Antigua - 4 weekly 333
Barbados - 7 weekly 333/744 (4x/3x)
Cancun - 1-2 weekly 744
Grenada - 2 weekly 333 (via UVF)
Havana - 3 weekly 744
Las Vegas - 4-6 weekly 744
Montego Bay - 3 weekly 744
Orlando - 8-11 weekly 744
St Lucia - 5 weekly 333
Tobago - 2 weekly 333 (via UVF)

Westjet

Calgary - 3 weekly 763
Toronto - 7 weekly 763

Summary:

Average weekly departures = 270.5-284.5 (220-236 last winter)
Average daily departures = 39-41 (31-34 last winter)

Busiest Routes:

Barbados - 21-22 weekly
Dubai - 21 weekly
New York JFK - 20 weekly
Orlando - 17-20 weekly
Toronto - 14 weekly
St Lucia - 12.5 weekly
Antigua - 11 weekly
Cancun - 9-11 weekly
Fort Lauderdale - 8 weekly
Las Vegas - 6-8 weekly
Hong Kong - 7 weekly
Los Angeles - 7 weekly
Oakland - 7 weekly

Norwegian are moving from 4/5 to 8 based long haul in the North Atlantic WINTER? That's....interesting timing.

Should be even more once AUS and ORD will start next summer.

Agreed, something is going to have to give with DY, one of BA or DY will blink.

Well IAG has cash of nearly €8bn....

IAG Printer Friendly Version - News Release

Real cash or cash on account for future flights.

New 6 weekly Larnaca route with Cobalt. Starts 30th October

Norwegian is reported to be making ORD daily and increasing frequency on LAX for Summer 2018:

Norwegian plans further London Gatwick - US service increase in S18 :: Routesonline

Poster on another forum claiming Cathy will be moving their HKG flight over to Lhr? Any news/views?

I know that Cathay are adding three new European destinations, and I've heard rumours that one European destination will be scrapped (as well as two in Asia).

It makes a lot of sense to consolidate operations at LHR - I believe they only started flying to LGW because of slot restrictions at LHR.

Quite the opposite in fact, only change at LGW will be A350 changes to B777 and maybe twice a day :cool:

BA starting Toronto 3x weekly from May 18. Wouldn't you think there are lots more destinations with less competition they could try?

Vegas is also coming back, you go where you have a decent sized market. BA already operate both out of LHR too.

Any ideas what aircraft will be on the Vegas route ?? The lgw-las used to be the 777 til it caught fire. Be nice to do the flight on a newer aircraft than the old 747.
Tho you get the feeling as it can be lively flight they put the older equipment on it.

Yes Vegas is also on sale. Does this mean another B777 based at Lgw?

Do you actually know what your talking about?

Well while it may not have been the reason the lgw-las service stopped, it was around the same time as a fire ended in a hull loss. Having been on the lhr-las flight it was very much a lively flight with excited passengers starting the party where possible. It was also a very tatty interior.
Essentially is there any chance of getting a shiney new 787 next summer on the route ?
Rather than just trying to be smart, maybe contribute ?

Someone smart enough would never have posted in the way you had hence the 'smart' reply.

The aircraft involved in the accident at Las Vegas was not a hull loss as it was repaired and put back into service and was replaced at LGW by a spare from LHR.

No single aircraft is flying any single route so the previous ceasing of LGW to Las Vegas had nothing to do with the accident at Las Vegas.

The LGW British Airways long haul fleet is purely Boeing 777-200 so no chance of seeing a 'shiny new 787' on the route for next summer if ever.

And what do you actually mean by a 'lively flight with excited passengers starting the party where possible'?

What sort of ridiculous comment is that, you are aware it was the outbound flight ex Las Vegas flight!

At the rate that BA and Norwegian are expanding, soon the South Terminal will run out of stands capable of handling wide body aircraft. Only 16 widebody gates at South, with 22-23 DY/BA based aircraft next Summer. Add in TS (up to four a day in the Summer), CX, MT and occasionally TK and UX, it's going to be very crowded on Pier 2/3.

So, wiki has the aircraft listed as a hull loss and repaired. Mea culpa.

Fleets operating different services change, fleets operating out of bases change, hence the question.

And if you where smart enough to read, I've flown LHR-LAS and return. The flight to LAS was lively, the return leg less so ( broke, hungover, both) Your smartness seems to have confused two independent statements. 🤔

Ok then well your first question was,

'any ideas what aircraft will be on the Vegas route'?

I replied in the way I did because the obvious answer to that is a Boeing 777-200 seeing that all British Airways long haul from LGW is based around that aircraft, was I being smart of course I was because everyone knows that so your question wasn't smart.:=

See I don't follow Gatwick or BA so don't know that. So not everyone knows it and if I knew it I wouldn't have asked. Doh.

For someone who doesn't follow Gatwick you seem to be only posting on the Gatwick thread!

British Airways long haul operation out of London Gatwick Airport has been based purely around the Boeing 777-200 since 2003.

May I ask what do you follow?

Leave off mate, take a chill pill. Let people ask questions!

That would surprise me.

Seems some more info on the higher density BA 772 initial routings. Presumably the rest of the 3 class to follow British Airways outlines London Gatwick HD 777-200ER routes in S18 :: Routesonline
BA Y seats seemed bad enough as they were!

BA aren't adding an extra 777 to Gatwick next year, they are using the slack in the existing fleet along with a reduction of 1 flight per week to Orlando, Kingston and Oakland to fund the resumption of Vegas and new Toronto route.

Do you know this for certain? I am not totally convinced. Some of the slack will be needed to enable the 777 refits to continue. Also several new 787s being delivered Heathrow between now and end of 2018.

If need be, they will do so with LHR 777's. Certainly no 'new' aircraft types at Gatwick.

No there will be no new aircraft types but probably more 777s over time.
25 are being refitted so I expect some of those will be based at Heathrow too. That will also make the changes being bases easier to accommodate.

I don't think 'any new aircraft types' at Gatwick was mentioned just that new Boeing 787's being delivered to LHR will displace Boeing 772 to LGW.

Exactly Canberra97. Thank you.

Yes, I work for BA and on Yammer ( internal forum) someone asked if this meant that LGW was getting an extra 777 and someone from the fleet planning team replied back saying no. Just the slack in the existing schedule, Cape Town will have ended when Vegas starts and the reduction in OAK, MCO and KIN will fund the Toronto. Obviously some aircraft will rotate from Heathrow during that time too, but based aircraft will remain the same.

So is Easyjet about to announce a connection service with Norwegian and Westjet at Lgw using Gatwick Connects?

Just did a dummy booking from Bfs to Sin on Easyjet.com.

Not available on the app yet...

Probably why MoL was miffed and no Med flights from LGW with DY next summer

i think it's a promotion of the gatwick connects service that's been going for a few years (specifically on easyjet.com) rather than anything new as such

The big plus is to do two flights on a single EZY booking via their engine.
You can also do this for just EZY fights as well so Jersey to Gatwick to Reykjavik on a single booking, 2 sectors.

Furthermore I understand that they plan to offer a similar service from Milan Malpensa, Geneva, Amsterdam, Paris CdG and Barcelona.
Wonder who would be the partner companies...