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dpsilverba 27th Apr 2019 16:57


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10457120)
Apparently Loganair has made the Saturday Jersey service ‘via Guernsey’ thereby reducing services by one weekly flight. Can’t be doing very well for them to take this action before flights have even started.

Hi!

I've been affected by this...but not to too great an extent. Booked the LM 611 BOH-JER on 11 May (thinking it was an inaugrual
flight - but isn't..) with only one seat already reserved (14A). Received an e-mail yesterday apologising for it being cancelled and offered the alternative LM 609 departing 11.55 instead of 14.00. Didn't initially notice that it was a direct flight with one stop until I read this thread.

Upside is I get double the take off/landing in a Jungle Jet :cool:. downside I have had to book a hotel in Bournemouth for the night to make sure I'm there in time (rail engineering works etc).

Looking forward to it...let's see what happens

Den



rog747 28th Apr 2019 05:43

Den, the trains from Portsmouth Harbour to Bomo on Sat 11 May are OK - the ferry & several trains will get you there in plenty of time for the 11.55 -- last check in is 11.25

There is also National Express coaches from Pompey to Bomo station as well - you do not need to get a hotel - unless you want to have a wild night out in the resort !

rog747 28th Apr 2019 06:19


Originally Posted by Ex EGKK ATCO (Post 10457259)
Cheers. I’ll wait to hear from DAT next week.






I too am up for a ride on a Mad dog - 82, anymore info please?

Guess we have to overnight in BLL then fly home Sat?

Cheers R

Sharklet_321 28th Apr 2019 09:40

I emailed that address that Nakata77 provided and they told me it departs at 21:25 arriving Billund 00:05. €150 but I think it’s worth it for a ride on a mad dog in retro scheme!

dpsilverba 28th Apr 2019 16:13


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10457702)
Den, the trains from Portsmouth Harbour to Bomo on Sat 11 May are OK - the ferry & several trains will get you there in plenty of time for the 11.55 -- last check in is 11.25

There is also National Express coaches from Pompey to Bomo station as well - you do not need to get a hotel - unless you want to have a wild night out in the resort !

rog747 - many thanks.

There's a direct train from Fareham (closer to me than PMH) that weekend which works really nice - but I've gone for the 'bright lights' option and booked into the Durley Dean hotel so I don't miss out on my 1 in 3 saturday long lie in!

Den

Nakata77 29th Apr 2019 14:34

I was one of 4 passengers on todays flight from Jersey. Not much above 10 apparently on the Bournemouth-Jersey sector.

This route ain't gonna last if that performance is anything to go by.

The two Ryanair flights next to us on the ramp at Bournemouth were literally heaving with people.



stewyb 29th Apr 2019 15:13


Originally Posted by Nakata77 (Post 10458894)
I was one of 4 passengers on todays flight from Jersey. Not much above 10 apparently on the Bournemouth-Jersey sector.

This route ain't gonna last if that performance is anything to go by.

The two Ryanair flights next to us on the ramp at Bournemouth were literally heaving with people.

i refer back to post 598

Sharklet_321 29th Apr 2019 15:27

I agree that Bournemouth could do with a more frequent bus but I don’t agree that this is the reason the route is not doing well. If it is because SOU has a train station, then how do islanders deal with airports like Exeter, Newquay, Bristol and Cardiff which have no train station and are further from train stations than BOH is. Bournemouth airport has an infrequent bus but you can catch it on your arrival from Jersey. I didn’t check departure. Bournemouth has so many wealthy retired people that wouldn’t take the bus anyway - apparently this is the group of people that most supports the Channel Islands market. So how can this route not be working?

SWBKCB 29th Apr 2019 15:32


So how can this route not be working?
Who says it isn't? There's been one flight, on a Monday... :rolleyes:

stewyb 29th Apr 2019 15:50

Over 40% of Jerseys economy comes from financial service organisations and hence business travel within those companies will want swift onward connections throughout the uk. This is where SOU does hold the upper hand for once. Wealthy Dorset residents and tourism only play a small part in regular footfall through the islands airport. However judging route viability on first days performance seems slightly premature!

Dropoffcharge 29th Apr 2019 16:03


Originally Posted by Nakata77 (Post 10458894)
The two Ryanair flights next to us on the ramp at Bournemouth were literally heaving with people.

I belive this is generally the case with almost all the RYN flights from BOH, just amazes me why they don't do more routes to other sun destinations, or for other airlines (jet2 etc) to offer sun routes from BOH as well.

shamrock7seal 29th Apr 2019 16:08

Yes pls give the route some time to build up. The airport has been going full belt on pushing this on its social media channels and hopefully todays launch ceremony will be another reason to get some airtime for it.

The fact that this route is seasonal must mean Loganair is going after outbound holidays from Bournemouth. In the past Bournemouth did really well with its channel islands routes in conjunction with Southampton and at one point had 7 return flights on a single Saturday each summer, so one single flight should be fine.

By the way Bournemouth is home to one of the largest financial services centres on the South Coast (JP Morgan, Liverpool Victoria, Barclays and many others are based there). One would think this would be cause enough for the route to be a strong performer.

philip duncan 29th Apr 2019 17:57


Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 10448958)
This is the Ryanair based aircraft , which is fully committed this summer as usual

Mon
BOH RMU BOH GRO BOH ALC BOH

Tue
BOH TFS BOH RMU BOH

Wed
BOH RMU BOH GRO BOH ALC BOH

Thu
BOH MLA BOH AGP BOH

Fri
BOH RMU BOH GRO BOH ALC BOH

Sat
BOH PFO BOH GRO BOH

Sun
BOH MLA BOH ALC BOH DUB BOH

Crystal ski has again taken a large block booking out on the Saturday Easy jet Geneva ski route which has always proved very popular but as already discussed Turin won't be returning this winter season. It's a real shame that Innsbruck isn't tried again with Inghams ski, or Crystal use the TUI based aircraft on a Sunday to CMF or SZG

Doubtful Ryanair will operate the Paphos route in the winter as loads looked below what they would expect although since March its picked up again, i think 1 flight would have been better suited.
Meanwhile, the powerhouse of TUI is operating a near full winter season to PFO this winter

Mark, my first ever post on PPPuNe, I was very interested in your comment about Innsbruck I go 3 or 4 times a year but have to fly from Gatwick It was so good when we could go from Bournemouth, I am sure there is a demand for this route, I have written to both Inghams & Crystal but never get a reply!!! So keep plugging it fingers crossed perhaps EZY could have a try -- very successful on the Geneva route.

LesPretend 29th Apr 2019 21:30

Did I dream that I read something on here about the possibility of a RYR BOH-ABZ service?

Im always surprised more isn’t done to promote just what an amazing destination the area is. With recent summers it’s way better value than going overseas.

TSR2 30th Apr 2019 10:38

Philip Duncan,

How could you possibly know 'Very successful on the Geneva route' unless you have access to financial accounts.

philip duncan 30th Apr 2019 12:01

I have no knowledge of account information, but I based my comments on the fact that the route is well supported passenger wise and the fact that it has been operating for a few years out of Bournemourh and is operating again this winter with two flights on Saturdays must mean it is a profitable route.!!

Interestingly that Southampton also has an EZY flight to Geneva, but Bournemouth still maintains good load factors.
PD

MARKEYD 30th Apr 2019 12:51

Not sure what you mean by " very successful " but i would say its been successful in the fact Easy jet is in its 14th year of operating flights to Geneva from BOH and seem quite happy to continue while now operating from SOU as well so there must be a market for the route from both airports


Sharklet_321 1st May 2019 09:59

Of course it's successful if it wasn't why would they continue to fly into BOH year after year. My only wish is that it would become a year-round service perhaps not at the same level of frequency for the summer but at least twice weekly. For BOH to maintain 6 flights a week in the winter to GVA is a very good indicator of the potential the airport has for other route development.

HOWEVER if further expansion at EXT goes on this will be limited. More than a 3rd runway at LHR, expansion at EXT would take custom away from BOH. For example customers in Weymouth would easily switch between EXT or BOH depending upon air fare - it's about the same travel time given the awful roadworks/gridlock/traffic going on in Poole & Bournemouth.

shamrock7seal 7th May 2019 13:43

The new TUI Kefalonia route seems to have gone today without so much as a celebration! Thought this would have been an ideal opportunity for TUI to do something and possibly announce bigger things for 2020.

Alicante has been dropped from SOU for the W19 season. Not sure it will be back given that Flybe is getting rid of its jets.

Sharklet_321 8th May 2019 07:26

On my flight through BOH yesterday I noticed, the airport has a brand new set of ground equipment on the ramp representing a significant investment by Rigby. They took their ground handling in-house in April. Hopefully this bodes well for further airline development. The inside of the departures terminal is quite large and could easily take 6 A320 sized aircraft simultaneously. There is a new Costa cafe and large restaurant area.

One positive thing about BOH is that due to the majority of its income coming from revenue streams other than airlines, I assume it can offer low fees/charges. I think this is something that SOU will never be able to do as they embark on their terminal and runway improvements. The cost of that development will need to be recouped from their only source of income - airlines.


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