Here goes..thinking outside the box..and the SE...Would an extra 350 mts plus RESA for Luton,Bristol,Liverpool,Newcastle and Edinburgh/Glasgow not be a whole lot cheaper than the Billions proposed for Heathrow..and actually spread the load around? Or is that toooo simplistic?

Spending a fraction of the HS2 money re-opening Filton would be extremely sensiblevand beneficial and thus discounted.

@Highwideandugly

That would indeed be the logical solution, but unfortunately it's too much of a political hot potato. I'll let everyone make up their own minds on that, but my 'at-a-glance' take on it: It makes sense to add millions of extra seats across the Uk and make better use of these infrastructures rather than concentrate it all on 1 airport. On the other hand, airlines, particularly long haul, won't want to spread demand across more bases/destinations in close proximity, as it dilutes their yields, compared to focus on a couple and being able to charge an arm and leg. THey would prefer the expansion at LHR (and a couple others).

Try telling the politicians all this though and see how far you get...

The existing master plan, prepared in 2005, says this about the runway issue.

Option 1 – do nothing
From the analysis above it is clear that it is likely that a significant proportion of any long haul demand could be handled without the need for a runway extension. However, it is not possible to make precise estimates with any degree of accuracy over such a long time frame. This option carries some risk, but the timescales are such that this risk can be reassessed in subsequent revisions of the Master Plan if necessary.

Option 2 – extend the runway by 140m
This is assessed as the maximum extension that can be accommodated within the existing airport land, without the need for airport control of Felton Common. Nevertheless the A38 would need to be lowered into a tunnel for a length of 150m. The instrument landing system for runway 09 would need to be relocated to just inside airport land at the boundary with the Common. If the existing landing threshold is retained for runway 27 there would be no need to relocate the existing approach light array. There is a possibility that some regrading of the Common may be needed to maintain satisfactory clearances from obstacle limitation surfaces.

Option 3 – extend the runway by 389m
This has been assessed as the maximum extension that can be accommodated within the existing airport land. The end of the runway clear and graded area would then be at the boundary with Felton Common. The ILS localiser and, potentially approach lighting as well, would need to relocated on to the Common and a 240m by 150m area of the Common would need to come into airport control. It may be necessary to regrade parts of the Common.

Option 4 – extend the runway by 239m with a 150m starter strip
A starter strip is a length of aircraft pavement that can be used by aircraft at the start of their take off run, but not for landing purposes. This option would add 389m to the runway 27 take off run, but only about 150m to the runway 09 take off run. This therefore means that runway 09 has performance penalties compared with runway 27. However the need to encroach on to Felton Common is avoided.

Option 5 – extend the runway further, with further encroachment onto the Common.

Our overall conclusion is that the improvement in performance that might be achieved by extending the runway is relatively small in comparison with the costs and the potential environmental impact. Our preferred option at this stage is therefore the 'do nothing' option.

Unfortunately, that now seems an impossibility.

Plans approved for more than 2,500 homes on Filton Airfield - Bristol Post

Incidentally, I’m not aware of any news of a new CEO to replace Robert Sinclair who has moved to London City Airport as CEO. It might be thought by some that it’s not the most propitious time to embark on a major look at BRS’s future with no CEO in place.

Filton
 

To open Filton as an airport you would need to fill in holes that has been dug in runway and chainsaw for apron trees and under growth as was shown on the tv the other week when they showed the hanger they have put the concorde into.No prob with length but every thing else ummm.

Boy - re-open Filton - with all those 16000++ good people in Stoke Gifford right under the approach

Not a hope in hell.

The people who will be living in the 2,500 homes to be built on the Filton site might have something to say about aircraft taking off and landing up and down their streets too.

Pah - they shoudl have known that they risked that when they bought on an old airfield

Send in the bailiffs!

BA CityFlyer- Summer 2018
 

New timings for most of the routes compared with summer 17, with Malaga increased to 2 x weekly which facilitates the E190 positioning in and out at the beginning and end of the Saturday programme.

Saturday
BA7340 AGP 0105 BRS 0245
BA7023 BRS 0615 PMI 0940
BA7022 PMI 1025 BRS 1155
BA7016 FLR 1105 BRS 1225
BA7021 BRS 1245 AGP 1625
BA7017 BRS 1310 FLR 1625
BA7020 AGP 1715 BRS 1900
BA7019 BRS 1945 IBZ 2310
BA7018 IBZ 2355 BRS 0120 (Sun)

Sunday
BA7021 BRS 0625 AGP 1005

As summer 17, all flights on E190 except Florence which remains E170.

Went to the presentation in the week when it was in Weston.4 big drawings of the different plans. 1 involves moving winters lane again as they in talks with the golf club as to buying it and also the row of houses along down side road.none of the plans are set in concrete as they said bits from each plan might be used. Its worth going along and there is a feedback forn to fill out and free post back to them.Also they give you a book with all the details about the plans which makes good reading.

Easyjet add Seville and Genoa

easyJet
 

Genoa and Seville now in the easyJet booking system both 2 x weekly from 2 June, both on Tue and Sat.

I make that 65 easyJet routes from BRS, albeit some are seasonal.

Ryanair operated Seville for three summers between 2009 and 2011 but I can't remember Genoa ever previously being operated as a regular route. Seville and Bristol are Airbus centres so there might be some passenger traffic as a result of that.

The easyJet timetable requires 15 based aircraft next summer (one more than in 2017), with part of August requiring 16 as things stand.

The airport has tweeted out this evening

And sure enough, the departures and arrivals boards are looking messy. ILS down?

ILS on runway 27 is u/s !

Old Terminal Demolition
 

Part of the masterplan - offices being relocated into new terminal / part of new development closer to the new tower.

When?

News on the street is 'early in 2018'.

Arrival of portacabins will be the first we get to hear?

Anyone 'in the know'?

Merry Christmas one and all!

:ok:

As reported over on the bmi thread, BM to start BRS-GOT on their usual slightly esoteric scheduling.

BRS-GOT 13:40 - 16:50 14
GOT-BRS 14:40 - 16:00 2
GOT-BRS 11:40 - 13:00 5

https://www.flybmi.com/press-release...tol-gothenburg

"Fares on the route start from £99 one way." - that'll be for the first ten seats sold.

Bristol closed - jet off runway
 

EGGD currently closed in LVPs. Aircraft off runway. Airport rumour BMI aircraft.

Eggd 221150z auto 25004kt 0200 r27/0400 fg vv/// 10/10 q1035

The Embraer RJ145 belonging to BMI Regional is understood to have left the runway whilst taxiing after landing from Frankfurt at 11:36am.
Bristol Airport said none of the 25 passengers on-board flight BM1822 were injured and they were bussed to the terminal from the aircraft.
The airport warned there may be delays as the aircraft is recovered to a parking area.

Great, one dolt takes a liking to grass over taxiway and 30 flights cancelled.
I'm due to fly into BRS later, any updates much appreciated.

Notam ..... B) FROM: 17/12/22 13:34C) TO: 17/12/22 18:00

E) AD CLOSED DUE INCIDENT

AAIB on their way

NOTAM'ed closed to 1900

Hey Hoss, can you possibly spare a cupful of your own perfection for us mere mortals?

bmi regional incident
 

Looking at the BRS website the current situation re affected flights is thus:

Departures: 34 left prior to the incident; 28 have been cancelled; 22 are showing 'next information'; 2 are showing 'check-in closes'; 1 is showing 'final boarding'; 1 is showing no information.

Arrivals: everything seemed to have arrived normally prior to the incident. After that 20 aircraft are shown as diverted; 26 cancelled; the remainder 'next information' or blank.

A lot of people will have had their Christmas plans ruined.

Shame that the US Navy don't run the flight deck, sorry RW at BRS. Its not much bigger than a large carrier! Perhaps EZY and FR could fund the hull cost of the 145 after it's been pushed over the side.

OK I know that its got to stay where it is now that the AAIB are on the way but you have to feel for the number all those that have been inconvenienced with little chance left to retrieve their Christmas plans.
1066

Latest Notam.... B) FROM: 17/12/22 17:23C) TO: 17/12/22 21:00

E) AD CLOSED DUE INCIDENT

And it continues......latest Notam...... B) FROM: 17/12/22 17:23C) TO: 17/12/22 21:00

E) AD CLOSED DUE INCIDENT

If all this is 'just' a matter of having left the paved bit of a taxiway in LVP conditions, presumably getting the kite grass stuck in the process, surely it'd be possible to throughly record the incident scene by camera, sketch and notes, do a few measurements and get the thing moved within a couple of hours?

"surely it'd be possible to thoroughly record the incident scene by camera, sketch and notes,"

WHAT and not inconvenience several thousand people 2 days before Christmas.....

After all the report will probably run to at least two sides of A4

Runway now closed until 21:00!
 

Waiting patiently in the terminal for the 145 crew to just pop in and explain why are Christmas plans have just been trashed from going off-roading! It’s mayhem here and no idea if flights will occur or cancelled. Still the bars are still open - bless!!

If this was just a nose gear in the mud.....why is the airport still closed till 21:00? I thought they’d removed the aircraft much earlier. You’d think that with it being “frantic Friday” they’d pull out the stops to get things moving ASAP.

A4

Feel sorry for the crew but, come on chaps! 8 hours to shift a commuter jet? Why are the AAIB involved? This is an incident, not an accident. Jobsworth?

Sure if that is what it is. BRS has form though. They had problems with braking efficiency on this runway which resulted in an AAIB report in 2009. Hopefully long since sorted and unrelated to today's events. While it needs
to be reported I can't see why a minor taxiway excursion would require an AAIB field investigation requiring the a/c to be left in situ. Will have to wait and see.

The next possibility is that AAIB will arrive, by car, and say they want it left in position until early morning light, when they can take photographs of the skid marks.
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Just seen Nigel Scott, BRS business development director, (BRS currently has no CEO) on the local tv news. He said they can't move the aircraft until the AAIB investigators arrive to inspect it in situ and this is taking longer than expected.

The tv people said they've been told the earliest the airport will re-open is 9pm this evening.

For me, a low speed issue such as this with no injuries is not a major incident.
AAIB are not required to hold the recover process up. Why? Because 1000's of people are being disrupted unnecessarily. BRS will have competent managers to capture evidence post incident, BMI will have their process for capturing pilot reports and A/C data etc. All this can be reviewed by AAIB.

All the passengers, BRS and the airline are getting caught in the middle of ridiculous over regulation here!

Edit - Looking for a job. I have worked with their counterparts the RAIB. For an incident such as this, there is nothing that won't be covered through analysis of all the above I mentioned plus interviews with the pilots, cabin crew and atc. I appreciate everyone has a role to carry out, but there will be thousands of travel plans at stake here. Get those people moving!

Do we know if the A/C had fully decelerated prior to the excursion?