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OneBellEnd 20th Dec 2019 20:21

Good news to see reinstatement of Dundee flights from Belfast, especially for students.

Hope the route proves to be a success for Loganair on this occasion.

DUB19 20th Dec 2019 21:35

Anyone know the aircraft operating the route? I see London is being operated by an ATR so I’m guessing BHD will be as well?

goldeneye 20th Dec 2019 21:50


Originally Posted by DUB19 (Post 10644512)
Anyone know the aircraft operating the route? I see London is being operated by an ATR so I’m guessing BHD will be as well?

it’s an ATR42 as well.

mart901 21st Dec 2019 08:33


Originally Posted by goldeneye (Post 10644520)


it’s an ATR42 as well.

And it'll be a new one at that correct me if I'm wrong... 🤔

goldeneye 21st Dec 2019 09:07


Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 10644739)
And it'll be a new one at that correct me if I'm wrong... 🤔

new to LM but I think they are a similar age to some of the Saab 340’s LM already have.

toledoashley 21st Dec 2019 10:03

Are the 42's not coming from Air France/HOP?

mullac30 21st Dec 2019 10:15


Originally Posted by toledoashley (Post 10644799)
Are the 42's not coming from Air France/HOP?

Yes, they are around 24 years old, so 5 years younger than the average 340, but about the same age as the Saab 2000s.

mart901 21st Dec 2019 10:22


Originally Posted by mullac30 (Post 10644814)
Yes, they are around 24 years old, so 5 years younger than the average 340, but about the same age as the Saab 2000s.

I thought they'd put an order in for new 42's?

Fly757X 21st Dec 2019 12:56


Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 10644822)
I thought they'd put an order in for new 42's?

Doesn’t sound like they plan to now. In their press releases about their fleet, they’ve mentioned an “ultimate fleet of ATR42-500s” The first 3 have already been acquired from HOP! with the first one (G-LMRA) already painted. They are to get 2 ATR72-600s leaded from BE, however these will be operated elsewhere (GLA/EDI/ABD). Maybe a few years down the line they will, but in the next year or so it doesn’t sound like there is any plans at present for a new order.

Alteagod 21st Dec 2019 16:41

Would not be surprised if DND becomes an extension of the CAX service operating via BHD

SWBKCB 22nd Dec 2019 07:49


Good news to see reinstatement of Dundee flights from Belfast, especially for students.
Is this a realistic target market for a thin domestic route?


Originally Posted by Alteagod (Post 10645011)
Would not be surprised if DND becomes an extension of the CAX service operating via BHD

Why? Doesn't fit into the schedue of the CAX a/c, but does fit in between LCY for a DND based a/c. Would need quite some re-jigging.

PDXCWL45 22nd Dec 2019 10:23

BHD could be a way of rotating aircraft and crew to and from Dundee meaning they won't have to open a base at Dundee. Eastern do a similar thing with Newcastle for the Anglesey route.

goldeneye 22nd Dec 2019 19:39


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10645449)
BHD could be a way of rotating aircraft and crew to and from Dundee meaning they won't have to open a base at Dundee. Eastern do a similar thing with Newcastle for the Anglesey route.

Dundee has a based aircraft and crew and has done for quite a long time. There is currently a Saab 340 based there for the current twice daily STN. They also have a maintenance hangar at DND as well.

GAZMO 13th Jan 2020 12:43

Looks like stormy weather causing diversions to BFS
EMA, MAN, EXE, LHR and AMS arrivals diverted at moment

Alteagod 14th Jan 2020 16:27

Am I wrong but have several airlines in the past not said that APD was hindering them from launching routes from BHD and BFS. Well it will be extremely interesting to see if APD goes if anyone launches anything new regardless of Flybes temporarily financially embarrassing difficult trading position.

DUB19 19th Jan 2020 20:02

Anyone got an idea on why KLM have sent in a few E190s in the past few weeks? Are these just random a/c changes?

EI-BUD 20th Jan 2020 21:24


Originally Posted by DUB19 (Post 10666951)
Anyone got an idea on why KLM have sent in a few E190s in the past few weeks? Are these just random a/c changes?

What is odd about KLM sending 190s?
They've often used the larger Embraer on the route..
Either there is demand or they need to use it when smaller ones are getting Winter maintenance...

DUB19 20th Jan 2020 22:07


Originally Posted by EI-BUD (Post 10667614)
What is odd about KLM sending 190s?
They've often used the larger Embraer on the route..
Either there is demand or they need to use it when smaller ones are getting Winter maintenance...

Im sorry if I poorly worded my question, I just meant that the week leading up to a flight it would be showing that it’s operated by an E175 and then the night before it changes to an E190.
Anyway, you answered my question in your reply so thank you

True Blue 21st Jan 2020 20:19

So I had my daughter booked on the 19.45 Lcy - Bhd last night. She was waiting in the departure lounge at 7.00pm when the departure board is suddenly changed to flight cancelled. No warning emails or text. She was of the opinion that the load was very good. She believes that about 20 were transferred to the EI flight to Dublin, but that travel expenses from Dublin to Belfast would not be covered. Remaining pax to be put up in hotels. We were still at the hotel, close to Lcy, so she decided to return to our hotel. She has been told the hotel cost will be covered. Before leaving the airport, she was re-booked onto the 8.55am flight this morning and issued with a boarding pass. It was only later that I thought of the fact that the pax on the Bhd-Lcy last night were also left in Belfast or else were re-routed at cost to Flybe.

The first flight this morning left Bhd about 35 minutes late, arriving a few minutes late into Lcy. Departure board is changed to flight delayed, info at 9.30am. She heard ground staff on the phone and it seems the Stobart aircraft developed an engine problem. Now they are discussing transferring pax again that were from the cancelled flight to the 10.20 departure. I think by this stage ground staff were taking a lot of flak. So pax from last night's flight were called forward for re-booking. Now staff were dealing with the pax cancelled from last night, pax from the delayed 8.55 from this morning and pax on the 10.20. She was transferred onto the 10.20, but it left about 50 minutes late.

I have no idea of the exact number cancelled from last night, but this one example will cost Flybe a fortune, probably is a good example of why they are in the position they are in.

Startledgrapefruit 21st Jan 2020 20:29

BHD -LCY diverted in to SEN last night and positioned back to BHD empty


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