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edistevie 19th Nov 2017 18:42

Edinburgh is Scotland’s economic powerhouse, research shows as off Oct2017.

Www.scotsman.com/business

CabinCrewe 19th Nov 2017 20:37

...anyway back to specifics of GLA aviation

sdh2903 19th Nov 2017 20:53


Originally Posted by Callum Paterson (Post 9962440)
The A380 coming to Glasgow is indeed great news for Scotland as a whole

Really? Why? The average Joe won't care. The spotters will be excited for a few days until the novelty wears off. There'll be a few extra seats to flog and a loss of cargo capacity.

The airport taxi ways are too narrow so ops shut everything down and everyone has to wait. The last time it was in the rest of the world had to stop. If it's the same for regular ops then it's going to be a right pain in the a***.

Oh and it's a fugly looking thing ;)

LFT 19th Nov 2017 21:07

Hence the only 1st Class Cabin to/from Scotland and not hanging onto the coatails of the Scottish executive at Dumbiedykes :ok: A380 looks a goer now, double airbridge and a wee bit of disruption a couple of times a day worth it for such an Iconic aircraft, it was done once they can do it again, day in day out, also the new Stand at Campsie Snacks may well be available in case one goes u/s or diverts in?

sdh2903 19th Nov 2017 21:33

Exactly my point. It will be the best part of 20-25 mins shut down for 1 arrival by the time ops have done a sweep and shut the roads. There are other airlines and people just wanting to get on with it.

If it's the lunchtime flight which switches to the whale first it will be bedlam during all the charter LS/MT/TOM turns as well as all the rest.

LFT 19th Nov 2017 22:09


Originally Posted by TangoAlphad (Post 9962668)
Those of us doing 4-6 sector days through Glasgow may beg to differ. Nothing more irritating not moving for 10 minutes because the Emirates might be going to push.. the rest of us have fare paying pax too so why should they all be delayed so the mighty Emirates A380 isn't inconvenienced? ATC have only recently stopped slowing us all down while still in the Scottish sector as the Emirates is within 20 mins... makes you wonder how hard ball Emirates must negotiate..

I'm sure everything will go pretty slick once they get in the groove.

LFT 19th Nov 2017 22:14


Originally Posted by sdh2903 (Post 9962679)
Exactly my point. It will be the best part of 20-25 mins shut down for 1 arrival by the time ops have done a sweep and shut the roads. There are other airlines and people just wanting to get on with it.

If it's the lunchtime flight which switches to the whale first it will be bedlam during all the charter LS/MT/TOM turns as well as all the rest.


GLA's peaks are early am and pm, the lunchtime flight will be Ideal as it's pretty quiet, let's just appreciate how prestigious this is for Scotland's Powerhouse region and not get petty, I'm sure pax will switch from less prestigious flights from Scotland to the Middle East due this particular aircraft type due its quietness and public perception for comfort and cabin air quality etc.

sdh2903 19th Nov 2017 22:27


Originally Posted by LFT (Post 9962713)
GLA's peaks are early am and pm, the lunchtime flight will be Ideal as it's pretty quiet

Really? You've obviously not been around the West pier from around 12 noon this summer then.

LFT 19th Nov 2017 22:32


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor (Post 9962485)
'Powerhouse city'............. :rolleyes:

Well - for west central Scotland I suppose. :}


You've never visited my loon then, have you :E

LFT 19th Nov 2017 22:33


Originally Posted by sdh2903 (Post 9962722)
Really? You've obviously not been around the West pier from around 12 noon this summer then.

Ever traversed through Newark NJ?

Skipness One Echo 20th Nov 2017 07:09


ATC have only recently stopped slowing us all down while still in the Scottish sector as the Emirates is within 20 mins
This is for Manchester? It’s taxiways were never designed for anything that big on a daily basis, Glasgow even less so. The fact that Emirates put a B777 in the grass due to the limitations of the taxiway at the 23 hold is a clue. Great news for GLA if they can pull it off without the farcical procedures MAN began with, in all honesty 3xB77W might make more sense but they went and ordered a huge fleet of the “iconic” Fugly and now have to fly it somewhere.

However the West Pier wasn’t intended for this either and the chaos when Emirates board a full B77W on 30 at the same time they’re trying to board a TUI 757 on 32 is quite the experience, more so when the EK queue gets in the way of boarding on 29 too.


HMS Sanderling has indeed come a long way!

sdh2903 20th Nov 2017 07:41


Originally Posted by LFT (Post 9962726)
Ever traversed through Newark NJ?

Your point being?

chaps1954 20th Nov 2017 07:46

Better to be safe than sorry, rather have a small delay than a big dent and a further very big delay. Manchester does very well even had 4 on deck at once and Heathrow were very cautious at first.

willy wombat 20th Nov 2017 08:06

I am in no position to comment re the operational aspects of A380 at GLA. However, as a frequent EK pax (from London) I can comment that the pax experience in A380 vs 777 (in current config) really is chalk and cheese and I would expect the impact of EK switching one daily flight to A380 would be such that they will swiftly switch the second flight as well.

LFT 20th Nov 2017 08:40


Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo (Post 9962912)
The fact that Emirates put a B777 in the grass due to the limitations of the taxiway at the 23 hold is a clue.


Yes, that was a 777 backtracking then vacating at B to Hold at A IIRC, shouldn't even have been attempted (check Google Earth) but easily fixable if required with a 'filet' of tarmac.

Skipness One Echo 20th Nov 2017 09:28


Yes, that was a 777 backtracking then vacating at B to Hold at A IIRC, shouldn't even have been attempted (check Google Earth) but easily fixable if required with a 'filet' of tarmac.
Was a lineup that had to clear on B to line up again on A.

Better to be safe than sorry, rather have a small delay than a big dent and a further very big delay
Fair point BUT the issue is that the rest of the airfield shouldn't have to grind to a halt once or twice daily for a scheduled flight, but they'll have all the pain of the MAN/LGW/LHR experience to learn from. There's not much room for wingtips towards Loganair, would it be an enter at E to vacate F and line up at G if they're departing 05?

LFT 20th Nov 2017 09:55


Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo (Post 9963032)
There's not much room for wingtips towards Loganair, would it be an enter at E to vacate F and line up at G if they're departing 05?


Plenty room now as there was then, the Loganair Ops building is now gone -


http://i64.tinypic.com/30s7yhv.jpg

OntimeexceptACARS 20th Nov 2017 12:23

What Willy Wombat said, the difference in cattle class between A380 and B777 is marked, wider seats and just nicer.

But please Emirates, don't go 11 abreast on the whale, it will backfire on you.

Centre cities 20th Nov 2017 13:10


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 9962936)
Better to be safe than sorry, rather have a small delay than a big dent and a further very big delay. Manchester does very well even had 4 on deck at once and Heathrow were very cautious at first.

I would have thought that BHX ops would be more similar to Glasgow. There are two A380 per day and nobody seems to bat an eye lid.

willy wombat 20th Nov 2017 14:49

Tim Clark quoted in "Flight" today as saying he sees little benefit to Emirates in the 11 a-breast seating.


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