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PAXboy 19th Sep 2017 12:13

Just wait until a few months have elapsed. They will continue to smooth this, even as the real reason continues to leak out.
Again, compare their PR with BA's.

Andy_S 19th Sep 2017 13:01


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 9896775)
Just wait until a few months have elapsed. They will continue to smooth this......

And Iíve no doubt it will be. And no, this isnít the end for Ryanair. And yes, people will still book with them.

But I do wonder if this is a bit of a watershed moment for them. Theyíve been shown to be vulnerable and to have issues with staff retention and internal processes.

mart901 19th Sep 2017 13:15


Originally Posted by Andy_S (Post 9896833)
And Iíve no doubt it will be. And no, this isnít the end for Ryanair. And yes, people will still book with them.

But I do wonder if this is a bit of a watershed moment for them. Theyíve been shown to be vulnerable and to have issues with staff retention and internal processes.

They've had issues with staff retention for years, especially cabin crew. It's now come to a head, and the pilots are in a stronger position than they were because they are fighting for them

EI-EIDW 19th Sep 2017 13:25

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/201...us-for-pilots/


Ryanair offers Ä12,000 bonus to pilots who give up leave

mik3bravo 19th Sep 2017 13:30


Originally Posted by EI-EIDW (Post 9896863)

Nice money, if you can get it.

squeaker 19th Sep 2017 13:46

Plenty of strings attached if you read the whole article. Too easy for them to worm out of paying it.

LGS6753 19th Sep 2017 13:49

I find it astonishing that they feel able to cancel 25% of their Stansted flights over the six week period. Since they are so dominant there, there's (almost) no-one to fear.

BCALBOY 19th Sep 2017 14:21

FR are cancelling 7-10 departures per day from Stn in the period from 25Sep , this is no where near 25% of operation.

It involves the equivalent of 2 out of 41 STn based a/c though some of the cancelled flights are operated by overseas based aircraft.

It looks more like 7-8% of STN operation.

WHBM 19th Sep 2017 15:35

Not paying someone for 12 months, and then not at all if they have left in the meantime, would appear to breach minimum pay legislation, in the UK at least (possibly also in Ireland and other EU countries).

Saying they will not be paid the amount due if they have more than 4 days sick in the intervening 12 months would act as an incentive to wish to work when unwell, which should surely attract the attention of even such a toothless regulator as the Irish CAA.

Interesting BBC take on the situation, at last now questioning the Ryanair official line

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41319482

BFS BHD 19th Sep 2017 15:40


Originally Posted by 1sky (Post 9896414)
Ryanair press conference in Burgas - Bulgaria this morning.

Did this press conference happen?

mik3bravo 19th Sep 2017 16:04


Originally Posted by WHBM (Post 9897008)
Not paying someone for 12 months, and then not at all if they have left in the meantime, would appear to breach minimum pay legislation, in the UK at least (possibly also in Ireland and other EU countries).

Saying they will not be paid the amount due if they have more than 4 days sick in the intervening 12 months would act as an incentive to wish to work when unwell, which should surely attract the attention of even such a toothless regulator as the Irish CAA.

Interesting BBC take on the situation, at last now questioning the Ryanair official line

Does Ryanair have a pilot shortage? - BBC News

Slow day at the Beeb and amateur so called journalism. If they bothered to rewind yesterday's VT of the MOL press conference they will have fact based data on crew availability per airframe. Stupidity of the BBC. MOL would not be stating the numbers and facts yesterday for the fun of it. It was aimed at aviation regulators attention to detail and the Ryanair institutional investors and it's own employee's.

1sky 19th Sep 2017 16:07


Originally Posted by BFS BHD (Post 9897012)
Did this press conference happen?

Yes, Burgas 1 aircraft base confirmed with 10 routes.

Nothing on the Ryanair website for the moment.

BFS BHD 19th Sep 2017 16:10


Originally Posted by 1sky (Post 9897052)
Yes, Burgas 1 aircraft base confirmed with 10 routes.

Nothing on the Ryanair website for the moment.

Thanks for the info!

Sober Lark 19th Sep 2017 16:10


Interesting BBC take on the situation, at last now questioning the Ryanair official line - We know 140 Ryanair pilots have gone to Norwegian this year
"April to June adjusted operating profit before leasing and depreciation (EBITDAR) fell to 1.19 billion crowns (€125.8 million), down 21 per cent year-on-year and below analysts’ forecast in a Reuters poll of 1.51 billion crowns. Norwegian Air’s operating result swung to a loss of 863 million crowns from a year-ago profit of 1 billion, while analysts had expected a loss of 246 million."

Not everyone you lose is a loss.

Jamie2k9 19th Sep 2017 16:12

Bulgaria New Routes
 

Yes, Burgas 1 aircraft base confirmed with 10 routes.

Nothing on the Ryanair website for the moment.
Burgas:
Bratislava (2)
Dusseldorf Weeze (2)
Frankfurt-Hahn (2)
Krakow (2)
Memmingen (2)
Milan Bergamo (2)
Riga (2)
Rzeszow (1)
Tel Aviv (2)
Warsaw Modlin (2)

Sofia:
Paphas (3)

Plovdiv:
Brussels Charleroi (2)
Frankfurt-Hahn (2)
Milan Bergamo (2)

Vana:
Brussels Charleroi (2)

1sky 19th Sep 2017 16:43

The Bulgarian press release is now here:

RYANAIR ????????? ???????????? 100 ???. ?????? ? ???????? ? ???? ???????? ???? (? 87) 1 ??????? ???????, 10 ???????? ? 250 000 ??????? ??????? ? ???????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?? ???? 2018 | Ryanair's Corporate Website

The big question is what they plan to do with the aircraft in winter.

BigFrank 19th Sep 2017 17:08

EU-free airline company?
 
That would seem to be the case given that the BBC has just reported that Ryanair's offer to rebook passengers on alternative flights is contingent on their being willing to pay the difference when the replacement flight is more expensive in clear contradiction of EU261/2004.

An error by the BBC?
Far from impossible !


A clear indication that Ryanair is an EU-free airline
? Far from....

toledoashley 19th Sep 2017 17:12

Would a Plovdiv base in the winter make sense, to tie in with ski season?

Charlie Roy 19th Sep 2017 20:50


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 9896775)
Just wait until a few months have elapsed. They will continue to smooth this, even as the real reason continues to leak out.
Again, compare their PR with BA's.

At least BA wet leased a bunch of Qatar A320's when BA had staffing issues (strikes). I wonder did Ryanair even explore this option? The 8 Qatar A321's would have worked great, and Qatar still have not resumed the dozens of daily short-haul flights it was forced to suspend earlier this year.

RAT 5 19th Sep 2017 21:00

The underlying thought seems to be that cancelling the published number of flights and the slow winter schedule will somehow, at a stroke, solve their pilot shortage for next year. I am very sceptical about that. Next summer is not far away and the bums on seats that matter are in 1A & 1F.


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