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CCFAIRPORT 3rd Mar 2019 11:36

Barcelona to podgorica
1pw
opens 6 june 2019

racedo 8th Mar 2019 15:53

Ryanair eliminating the Wroclaw / Gdansk / Modin to Belfast routes from October 2019 or earlier.

Friends have used Wroclaw - BFS on occasions and fares low and never been full.

LGS6753 9th Mar 2019 10:54

From Blue Swan :

Ryanair is in preliminary discussions with Airbus over ordering up to 100 A321 aircraft for Laudamotion (Reuters, 06-Mar-2019). Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary said: “I would not see any point in having an order if it is less than 100 aircraft – 50 firm and 50 options… We are committed to being an Airbus customer through Laudamotion because in the future, as there are competition divestments or other M&A opportunities in Europe, some will be on the Airbus side and some will be on the Boeing side and we want to be able to do both”. He added the group is also interested in 737 MAX 10 aircraft for Ryanair’s fleet renewal.

racedo 9th Mar 2019 11:08


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 10411364)
From Blue Swan :

Ryanair is in preliminary discussions with Airbus over ordering up to 100 A321 aircraft for Laudamotion (Reuters, 06-Mar-2019). Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary said: “I would not see any point in having an order if it is less than 100 aircraft – 50 firm and 50 options… We are committed to being an Airbus customer through Laudamotion because in the future, as there are competition divestments or other M&A opportunities in Europe, some will be on the Airbus side and some will be on the Boeing side and we want to be able to do both”. He added the group is also interested in 737 MAX 10 aircraft for Ryanair’s fleet renewal.

Which reads as Mr Boeing when we next come calling, "Do you wish to close a plant or keep it open, 50% discount is so last year."

The competitive divestments means he sees more acquisition opportunities.

davidjohnson6 9th Mar 2019 12:17

When an airline has 400+ aircraft, it is probably in its interest to have aircraft from more than one manufacturer.

Boeing will believe that any order for new aircraft is a competitive bid only if they think FR genuinely would buy from Airbus. If FR somehow always end up buying Boeing, then Boeing may no longer believe the RFP is competitive and Boeing may wish to be less generous on aircraft price. An order for 50+ 737s is most definitely worth having, but unlike 2009, the economy globally is strong enough that it won't cause immeasurable pain to Boeing if they lose it to Airbus

racedo 9th Mar 2019 18:58


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10411429)
, but unlike 2009, the economy globally is strong enough that it won't cause immeasurable pain to Boeing if they lose it to Airbus

Boeing went to bed on September 10th 2001 feeling exactly the same way.

OTOH if they have a look at Sovreign debt levels worldwide they know Govt cuts have got to happen and this will impact cash in pocket of airline passengers.

CCFAIRPORT 10th Mar 2019 18:01

FR cancelling all flights at STUTTGART at the end of June 2019

3 routes in total
Dublin
Manchester (31/03/2019)
Marrakesh

Alsacienne 10th Mar 2019 18:42

Hmmmm ... only FKB and SXB near me for the time being. BSL no longer a base and now not STR. Any particular geographical reason or solely economics?

jdcg 10th Mar 2019 19:11

I thought it was becoming a laudamotion base instead

mik3bravo 11th Mar 2019 06:44

Question - is it the Boeing Max 8, that Ryanair have ordered and intend to operate in the fleet?

Are they operating any now on trial or fully operational, and what are Ryanair's future intentions in relations to ordering this type.

I ask this question in the context of recent crashes at other airlines who have began to use this aircraft type.

daz211 11th Mar 2019 06:55


Originally Posted by mik3bravo (Post 10413231)
Question - is it the Boeing Max 8, that Ryanair have ordered and intend to operate in the fleet?

Are they operating any now on trial or fully operational, and what are Ryanair's future intentions in relations to ordering this type.

I ask this question in the context of recent crashes at other airlines who have began to use this aircraft type.

Ryanair will be watching the world very worryingly as many airlines are today grounding the B737-Max 8.

AirportPlanner1 11th Mar 2019 07:50


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10413235)

Ryanair will be watching the world very worryingly as many airlines are today grounding the B737-Max 8.

The situation isn’t bad for FR compared to others. They can simply delay delivery and hang on to what they’ve got for longer should a worldwide grounding take place. It’s more an issue for those with Max already in operation like Cayman, Air China. If there were to be a full grounding even the likes of Air Canada would struggle to source 25ish spare frames at short notice.

El Bunto 11th Mar 2019 07:53


Originally Posted by mik3bravo (Post 10413231)
Question - is it the Boeing Max 8, that Ryanair have ordered and intend to operate in the fleet?

Yes, with additional emergency exits. Formerly advertised as the MAX 200 but now just called a variant of the 8.


Are they operating any now on trial or fully operational
No, the first one registered EI-HAT is due for delivery in the next couple of weeks.


and what are Ryanair's future intentions in relations to ordering this type.
They'll probably drop the Gamechanger slogan...

Other than that I doubt much will change, Ryanair have an intensive ramp-up planned for the Max through 2019. Might be a delay to the timeline for any remedial work demanded by regulators but frankly when was the last time a big airline declined an aircraft type due to reputation? They have too much invested in the type.

mik3bravo 11th Mar 2019 08:01

Human life not important in this?

Gulf Julliet Papa 11th Mar 2019 08:27


Originally Posted by mik3bravo (Post 10413296)
Human life not important in this?

Unless I've missed something so far there has been absolutely zero reports that a technical fault was the cause of the tragedy yesterday. There are many many many more causes of a crash that it could be. Until an investigation has taken place and found a cause then it is purely peoples opinion and speculation. The last I heard airlines try not to work on opinion and speculation, especially those that are untrained.

DC3 Dave 11th Mar 2019 09:09


Originally Posted by Gulf Julliet Papa (Post 10413314)
Unless I've missed something so far there has been absolutely zero reports that a technical fault was the cause of the tragedy yesterday. There are many many many more causes of a crash that it could be. Until an investigation has taken place and found a cause then it is purely peoples opinion and speculation. The last I heard airlines try not to work on opinion and speculation, especially those that are untrained.

So, there will probably be little or no discussion between senior professionals this morning, no thought given to a plan B.

El Bunto 11th Mar 2019 09:39


Originally Posted by mik3bravo (Post 10413296)
Human life not important in this?

No, that's why airlines have passenger liability insurance. The insurer will indemnify the survivors and relations of the deceased, usually in a two-step process with interim and final payments.

So long as an airline can prove that it wasn't negligent then that's all, folks.

sixchannel 11th Mar 2019 10:02

And if i were the Insurer I'd be reluctant to pay out for the loss of aircraft itself, citing that the airline bought a product that is/was inherently defective.
Unless they can PROVE otherwise.
Big Court Case, methinks.

mik3bravo 11th Mar 2019 10:09

Have you seen the amount of insurers turning their back on aviation insurance. It's massively loss making for insurers. Huge pressure building on aviation insurance rates and the likes of this noise is definitely driving it harder too. Airlines are likely going to face insurance rate issues around these things. Manufacturers need to get their finger out from their ass and address the issues.

CCFAIRPORT 11th Mar 2019 10:55

Ryanair envisage de développer des vols low cost vers l?Arménie - Nouvelles d'Arménie en Ligne



ryanair talks with Armenia for flights next year


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