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inOban 22nd Sep 2018 14:26

There are advantages to the passengers of away-based rotations. They avoid either an early departure or a late return, often requiring an overnight stay, and they are likely to be passing through the airports when they are less busy.

Rob Royston 22nd Sep 2018 18:55


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10255535)
There are advantages to the passengers of away-based rotations. They avoid either an early departure or a late return, often requiring an overnight stay, and they are likely to be passing through the airports when they are less busy.

You spend a lot of money on a seven day holiday and discover that you are going to be flying in your paid for hoiday time? Its not an advantage for probably over 95% of those on the flight. The only winner is Ryanair, but most customers will realize they have been conned and go to other companies.

inOban 22nd Sep 2018 19:17

And on the Edinburgh thread, discussing the loss of Norwegian flights to TFS, there is a poster lamenting the fact that the four alternative operators all fly at inhumane times. He doesn't like arriving home in the middle of the night, or I guess having to be at the airport before 5am.
I think there are plenty of people who will prefer civilised flight times.

Rob Royston 22nd Sep 2018 19:51

In Scotland we can pick our airports for suitable flight times to holiday destinations. With regards to my previous point, if a holiday flight fills both legs with passengers from a particular country, then the aircraft should be based in that country, else they will be flying in the passengers holiday time.

brownale342 23rd Sep 2018 20:05


Originally Posted by Rob Royston (Post 10255767)
In Scotland we can pick our airports for suitable flight times to holiday destinations. With regards to my previous point, if a holiday flight fills both legs with passengers from a particular country, then the aircraft should be based in that country, else they will be flying in the passengers holiday time.

Roy Robston, you do know that not everyone on a Ryanair flight will be going on holiday?

Booking a flight the times are clearly shown to the customer, the customer makes the decision if they want that flight.

IMO I'd rather a flight at 10 or 11AM etc any time meaning I can beat the early 6AM charter wave and not getting out of bed at 3AM.

AirportPlanner1 23rd Sep 2018 21:43


Originally Posted by Rob Royston (Post 10255767)
In Scotland we can pick our airports for suitable flight times to holiday destinations. With regards to my previous point, if a holiday flight fills both legs with passengers from a particular country, then the aircraft should be based in that country, else they will be flying in the passengers holiday time.

That’s a flawed arugument. In that scenario the passengers should bare the cost of doing that, and you would then get shouts of “why does it cost us here in XXX hundred more than XXX”. There is a long tradition going back well into pre-LCC days of Air 2000, Britannia, LTU, Air Berlin, Transavia, Scanair etc etc across Europe flying from primary cities and areas of good catchment down to the sun and then back to base. Air Europa, Spanair etc on the other hand would start their day in Spain and head to the likes of Norwich, Humberside, Saarbrucken, Kristiansand. So those communities “lost holiday” as you put it, but as none were of them had the market to support a based aircraft it’s a shortened holiday, a long drive elsewhere, or no holiday at all.

If the times aren’t what you hope for, go elsewhere. The market will determine whether the flights are maintained in future. There’s nothing stopping people taking the outbound of one airline and the inbound of another if it works better for them.

shamrock7seal 24th Sep 2018 09:59

I get that some customers will compare flight times if the prices are similar in order to maximise time on holiday but this is secondary to the price.

If an airline planned flight times in order to allow everyone to maximise time abroad there would be hundreds of planes sitting on the ground doing nothing for large parts of the day.

People who are that concerned with time will most likely flight private!

racedo 24th Sep 2018 10:50


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10256908)
People who are that concerned with time will most likely flight private!

They also don't worry about max 30 days holidays a year.

Rob Royston 25th Sep 2018 15:21


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 10256534)


That’s a flawed arugument. In that scenario the passengers should bare the cost of doing that, and you would then get shouts of “why does it cost us here in XXX hundred more than XXX”. There is a long tradition going back well into pre-LCC days of Air 2000, Britannia, LTU, Air Berlin, Transavia, Scanair etc etc across Europe flying from primary cities and areas of good catchment down to the sun and then back to base. Air Europa, Spanair etc on the other hand would start their day in Spain and head to the likes of Norwich, Humberside, Saarbrucken, Kristiansand. So those communities “lost holiday” as you put it, but as none were of them had the market to support a based aircraft it’s a shortened holiday, a long drive elsewhere, or no holiday at all.

If the times aren’t what you hope for, go elsewhere. The market will determine whether the flights are maintained in future. There’s nothing stopping people taking the outbound of one airline and the inbound of another if it works better for them.

This thread started at #1067/1068 about Ryanair basing all their aircraft serving GLA at away bases. Some of their PIK aircraft are also away based. Anyone from the Glasgow area who has seven nights booked anywhere and is looking for flights will get better value out of their accomodation by avoiding these away based aircraft. Jet2 is providing the required services that Glasgow wants to buy.

shamrock7seal 26th Sep 2018 14:26

Nice to see BOH getting its PRG service back that was last operated by Thomsonfly. More to come for BOH?

MAJP 27th Sep 2018 06:55

Marseille base back
9 new routes announced in press conference held in Marseille. All the routes start with summer 2019 season.

Warsaw
Prague
Naples
Bologne
Manchester
Bordeaux
Alicante
Agadir
Ouarzazate

2th aircraft based from April 2019. Total number of routes will be 40

CCFAIRPORT 27th Sep 2018 07:59

according to the summer scheduled 2019 , BOD is also a new ryanair base

737aviator 27th Sep 2018 11:04

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...aux-marseille/

Seljuk22 30th Sep 2018 18:30

PRG base will be expanded by additional 2 aircraft and 15 new routes next summer
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...r-19-schedule/

Sharklet_321 1st Oct 2018 07:31

Trying to book a flight but all flights are showing as sold out?

Gurnard 1st Oct 2018 08:51

SIX MORE
Six new 737-800s delivered to DUB in 2 days, 4 in one evening being as close in time as you'll get to arriving in formation. Are these replacements or additions? A few of the older ones seem to be departing the fleet, but not many.

lfc84 1st Oct 2018 10:00

DUB-TFS cancelled according to a review of my forthcoming reservation this winter. I then looked at the website and there's nothing at all throughout the winter on this route.

Is this a website mistake ?

Edit to add - 20 minutes later - my flight is now back on the website but saying sold out.

Sharklet_321 1st Oct 2018 10:20

Ryanair website is broken - cant book

Seljuk22 1st Oct 2018 11:24


Ryanair today (1 Oct.) lowered its full year profit guidance (excluding Laudamotion) from a current range of €1.25bn – €1.35bn, to a new range of €1.10bn – €1.20bn

– Our 4 aircraft Eindhoven base will close, but most routes to/from Eindhoven will continue on overseas based aircraft.
– Our 2 aircraft Bremen base will close with most routes continuing on non-German aircraft.
– Our 5 aircraft Niederrhein base will be cut to 3 aircraft with most routes continuing on the remaining 3 aircraft.
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...ecent-strikes/

CCFAIRPORT 1st Oct 2018 12:28

Sofia to Milan BGY
New daily route from April 1st 2019


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