Only an idiot would put all their collateral in to an airline!

humbersidemotor

I'm not saying gamblers shouldn't take a benefit from their success.

But that doesn't excuse them being fundamentally unpleasant to their employees who are making their money (or not as the case may be).

Manners, politeness and respect cost nothing, but I never saw anything like that from RL or BH.

I did see one staff member reduced to tears as a result of a very loud and aggressive dressing down from BH for wearing boots in their uniform in HUY HQ reception in front of about 10 people... just as they were about to walk out the door into the car park which had nearly a foot of snow in it.

I know that attitude and contempt for staff was not an exception but a norm.

Absolutely. Few would/should argue that those that take the risks should benefit the most. You deserve to have reaped the benefits. However, there has got to be a degree of equality and fairness among all stakeholders with that success.
Also, arguably the "winnings" could have been even greater perhaps had different tactics been employed...

Eastern lose £3.7m with Air Kilroe £9m. Bristows losing money. It not looking good

With all the talk about the problems eastern are in,nothing has been mentioned about the airbus corporate routes they operate. Would they be stopped as well,if they pulled the airbus contract it would be a good one for BMIR to take on again as they lost the contract to eastern.

FlatBroke

Six years ago I invested in commercial real estate, my decision wasn't comparible to playing poker because I did sound research and made a commercial decision based on that research.

These six years later, regardless that my business has a healthy annual turnover, my real estate is valued at around 7 times my initial outlay with the land itself being worth around 15 times what I paid for it with real estate prices here still rocketing.

Only a fool would invest in an airline with a fleet of glorified Airfix kits.

Harry,

That's some glorification!

Good summing up of the problems. If the travelling public with a need to get from A to B is at the mercy of a bunch of gamblers from god knows where only interested in their self aggrandisement, then they will be disappointed.

Is the Bristows Nigerian EMB 145 that has appeared at Humberside going to join the fleet.

Is this the aircraft for the Dublin service et al out of DTV?

The Dublin service was a rumour remember, until there is some form of press release about any new route or routes.....let's leave it there and move on.

Embraer
 

Jethros are reporting Eastern have reg G-CIYX to their fleet. Embraer EMB 145-LR

Maybe as somebody had commented previously as they are getting rid of there Jetstream 41's and SAAB 2000's they will be adding further jet or newer atr aircraft's to there fleet or even embraer 170's and 190's. Time will tell.

You aware that Eastern currently have two 170's in their fleet!

Eastern are dying a death by a thousand cuts. I think they are circa 900 by now. They’ve lost millions and Bristows must be spitting fire at RL.

Anybody care to tell me what a captain earns at Eastern?

2 n sixpence and a good thrashing

Qwerty
 

I think the average year one is about £45k

I note that they operated on behalf of bmi regional on their ldy-stn service tonight

I see that T3 have been using G-CERY instead of G-CDKA to operate the IOM service for nearly a week now.

Was wondering if any knows what the problem is with G-CDKA?.

Ok, Thanks.

T3’s weekday flights from ABZ-NWI are showing as being operated by BMI Regional on behalf of Eastern Airways through until the end of the S18 schedule. Flights are operated by a ER4. From what I can gather the lease began just a day after BM dropped there own service on the route.

Does anyone know why they have just not continued to operate one of there own aircraft on the route?

I see that Eastern are using the Saab 2000 more on the NCL-CWL route. I guessing this is due to crew availability as should be a J41.

BAladdy
 

They've closed NWI as a base.

Talking about ABZ I see they evacuated on the runways yesterday.

BAladdy They've closed NWI as a base
 

BMIR &/or Eastern?

If the latter is the writing in the wall for others? Bristows have facilities at ABZ

Can you expand on that?

Eastern have closed their NWI base.

bmi are now operating the flights on behalf of Eastern, but from ABZ and timings from Bmi’s former schedule.

Eastern are closing NWI as a base and wet leasing BMIR for the NWI-ABZ route.

Given they are a small scale operator will that result in job losses at Norwich?

Now that eastern airways have two atr72-600 do they just operate on the Aberdeen to scatsta to Aberdeen services only.

The ATRs have been through Leeds Bradford a few times recently.

Those days are long gone now, and they won't be back.

The ABZ based ATR72 seems to operate the ABZ-LBA-SOU-LBA-ABZ rotation on a Sunday.

Anyone fancy having a punt on when RL and BH will just give up with their airfix airline.........?

BH has gone. Rumours of a major row in the office in January and the Companies House records list him as having resigned on 31 January.

Pity anyone left. BH was one of the very few who was a calming influence on RL's more outlandish tendencies.

The rumours of the J41 fleet's days being numbered are interesting. Anyone aware of a definitive plan to retire them? Hope Duxford have room for one.

Seems they are being parked depending what they need done when they go in for heavy maintenance, if it's too much they are being parted out for the remainder of the fleet.

There is a ER4 that has come over from Nigeria, in Bristow paint scheme... are we going to start seeing more paintwork like this across the fleet?

I'd imagine the crews would be moved to another base, but depending how long said crew decide to stick it out at a base miles from home is anyone's guess!

Monday to Friday will be pretty much SCS flying, and once that's done for the day they may be used to cover tech/delays on the schedule. With no SCS flying at weekends, perhaps they cover flying on Sunday's for maintenance on the forever tech Saab's!?

"ATR", singular! ;) The second one, G-IACZ, only arrived in Aberdeen yesterday morning, a day late due to Wx.

Presumably depends on what happens with the flyBe deal?