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davidjohnson6 13th May 2019 15:41

Given the current demand for oil/gas related flying at Aberdeen how much is Eastern really worth without the asset that is HUY ? I imagine that Richard Lake would have had to put in a sizeable chunk of equity if he borrowed any money from a bank to finance this acquisition. I am wondering if buying Eastern back from Bristow was driven more by emotion than anything else

virginblue 13th May 2019 15:47


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10470332)
And on a lighter note...



Statement from Eastern Airways

But no prisoners taken as well:


It’s good to see ‘Scotland’s favourite airline’ with the English owners and senior management team, putting to good use its manipulated position on being unencumbered with the debt of its sister company following the planned merger with flybmi by recreating the same operating environment again, curious planning for sure but cause for a celebratory chuckle all the same.

goldeneye 13th May 2019 15:55


Originally Posted by virginblue (Post 10470387)
But no prisoners taken as well:

Odd statement to release, not on their own website and currently only picked up on the link posted above.

fjencl 13th May 2019 17:37

So has Eastern Airways kept the 2 ATR aircraft that were operating for Bristows, now that Eastern has been sold.......

SWBKCB 13th May 2019 19:45


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10470523)

That's the American parent company, of which Eastern are no longer a part.

dboy 14th May 2019 07:46

But who is now the new owner of EA???

SWBKCB 14th May 2019 10:13


But who is now the new owner of EA???
See post #400 - Orient Industrial Holdings Limited, formed in early May and 100% owned by Richard Lake.

RAFAT 14th May 2019 15:28

I have no doubt that this deal will be a win-win for Richard Lake; if he's paid out anything at all it is likely to be a fraction of what he originally sold it to Bristows for. Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me if Bristows are actually subsidising the deal in order to offload Eastern quickly.

Atlantic Explorer - I disagree that Eastern were a "shambles" before Bristows took over, just my opinion.

Atlantic Explorer 14th May 2019 18:45


Originally Posted by RAFAT (Post 10471147)

Atlantic Explorer - I disagree that Eastern were a "shambles" before Bristows took over, just my opinion.

You obviously weren’t on the same Fleet as I was then!

Was as a great place for many years, but started going downhill about 2009, beyond recognition now I’m told.

SealinkBF 14th May 2019 20:10

https://www.energyvoice.com/other-ne...stern-airways/

oapilot 14th May 2019 20:41

RAFAT You’re probably right, organised chaos is probably a better definition.

RAFAT 15th May 2019 03:01

That's a better description oapilot.

There is no doubt that crews were increasingly shafted as time went on, they weren't a cohesive workforce and nobody fought back so their treatment got worse. Eventually, due to sustained recruitment around the World, many just voted with their feet and left. For whatever reason the HUY management chose to try and tough it out, but with their heads in the sand their ass was truly bitten and crew shortages began to affect the operation, only then did it start to get a little shambolic.

SWBKCB 16th May 2019 20:49


Financial terms of the deal were undisclosed, although Mr Lake is believed to have paid substantially less than the £27 million he received for the business in 2017.
P&J - Business as usual for Eastern Airways after sale

Skipness One Foxtrot 17th May 2019 11:36

And flybe? Are they are franchisee or not?
It's not even mentioned!

RAFAT 17th May 2019 12:50


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 10473428)
And flybe? Are they are franchisee or not? It's not even mentioned!

From the article in SWBKCB's link: "Its business employs 350 people and spans scheduled flights as a franchise partner of Flybe, specialist oil and gas contracts, corporate shuttles for blue-chip companies and ad hoc private charter services."

NorthEasterner 11th Jun 2019 19:33

Eastern's Fleet
 
Just had a quick look (apologies for any errors) but out of 29 total aircraft only 15 are operating.

J41 (non-op)
G-MAJC (last flew Apr assumed non-Op)
MAJB
G-MAJE through to MAJK
MAJM

S20 (non-op)
G-CDEB (in ORB)
G-CERY (in ORB)
G-CFLU (in BZG) (27may)
G-CIEC (in ORB) (27may)

Might have been discussed before but what are the S20s doing in ORB/BZG, awaiting to be scrapped?

I can only assume the Jetstreams are at end of life/beyond repair and used as spare parts etc. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

NE

Aberdeen1234 13th Jun 2019 13:38


Originally Posted by NorthEasterner (Post 10491466)
Just had a quick look (apologies for any errors) but out of 29 total aircraft only 15 are operating.

J41 (non-op)
G-MAJC (last flew Apr assumed non-Op)
MAJB
G-MAJE through to MAJK
MAJM

S20 (non-op)
G-CDEB (in ORB)
G-CERY (in ORB)
G-CFLU (in BZG) (27may)
G-CIEC (in ORB) (27may)

Might have been discussed before but what are the S20s doing in ORB/BZG, awaiting to be scrapped?

I can only assume the Jetstreams are at end of life/beyond repair and used as spare parts etc. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

NE

I believe the S20s were over for heavy maintenance. Not sure about the J41's

PintofDoom 25th Jun 2019 16:32

T3 fleet
 
The Saabs are currently being returned to their lessor. Only KA/KB/RZ remain in service. These will be gone by November.

The jetstreams are undergoing C checks which is taking longer than expected .

Currently back to two 145s CISK/CHMR one in Rodez other is used around the network if its not in the hanger.

And the two ATRs IACY/Z just fly to shetland with occasional visits to WIC/NWI.

Current plan is get back to profitability, awaiting information from Connect Airways and thank you Bristows but goodbye lol

fjencl 25th Jun 2019 17:30

Is there something going to be happening with Connect Airways and Eastern Airways ???????

PintofDoom 25th Jun 2019 18:26

T3 fleet
 
It's more to do whether Eastern remain a franchise partner and everything else that is included from sales, advertising ect

Wolfgang5150 15th Jul 2019 04:51

Top 10
 
Well at least Eastern have got into the top 10.....of least punctual airlines flying in the UK

Atlantic Explorer 15th Jul 2019 11:06


Originally Posted by Wolfgang5150 (Post 10518783)
Well at least Eastern have got into the top 10.....of least punctual airlines flying in the UK

A sad reflection on what used to be a great Airline where greed and lack of investment are prevalent.

humbersidemotor 22nd Jul 2019 13:18


Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer (Post 10519029)


A sad reflection on what used to be a great Airline where greed and lack of investment are prevalent.

surely that is based on previous owners? Need to give current team a chance to sort? See Leeds Southampton going back to 3 times a day Mon-Thurs

SWBKCB 22nd Jul 2019 13:20

Isn't the current team the previous owners? :confused:

Atlantic Explorer 22nd Jul 2019 14:31


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10525019)
Isn't the current team the previous owners? :confused:

Yes, RL is back in charge now. My comment above was directed at his previous tenure and also Bristow.

fjencl 4th Sep 2019 13:24

Any news of any new routes planned for this airline.
Or any ACMI work for them.

PintofDoom 4th Sep 2019 13:49

No News
 
Currently the airline is full of rumours, but no solid plans.

Talks of MME-BHD
​​​​​​More ATR 72s
More 145s

But its anybody guess as to what will happen.

LBIA 4th Sep 2019 16:53

Aircraft still in service.
7+ Jetstream 41's = G-MAJB/D/L/T/U/Y/Z
2+ Saab 2000's = G-CDKB & G-CERZ
2+ Embraer 145's = G-CHMR, G-CISK
2+ ATR72-600 = G-IACY & G-IACZ

Also lease Embrear 145 from Loganair to operate Norwich-Aberdeen

Scheduled Flybe Franchise Routes
Aberdeen - Humberside
Aberdeen - Newcastle
Aberdeen - Norwich
Aberdeen - Teeside
Aberdeen - Wick
Newcastle - Cardiff
Cardiff - Anglesey
Leeds/Bradford - Southampton
Rodez - Paris Orly
Oil/Gas industry charters
Aberdeen - Scatsta
Aberdeen - Sumburgh
British Aerospace charters
RAF Coningsby - RAF Marham - BAe Warton

BAladdy 4th Sep 2019 18:02

T3 today combined there late afternoon ABZ-HUY-ABZ and ABZ-NCL-ABZ with a ABZ-NCL-HUY-ABZ flight operated by a ER4. I am guessing this is due to a lack of serviceable J41 aircraft. I am sure passengers the NCL-ABZ passengers will be less than happy with the stop over in HUY especially as it will add nearly 90 mins to there flights time.

Rottweiler22 4th Sep 2019 18:15


Originally Posted by BAladdy (Post 10561850)
T3 today combined there late afternoon ABZ-HUY-ABZ and ABZ-NCL-ABZ with a ABZ-NCL-HUY-ABZ flight operated by a ER4. I am guessing this is due to a lack of serviceable J41 aircraft. I am sure passengers the NCL-ABZ passengers will be less than happy with the stop over in HUY especially as it will add nearly 90 mins to there flights time.

I saw the early J41 from ABZ-NCL had a technical issue in ABZ and departed an hour late, which allowed the Loganair jet to get the jump. I’m guessing the plane in question (MAJZ) limped back to NCL and was grounded, thus causing the fiasco. A bit of a difficult day for Eastern where ABZ and NCL are concerned.

PintofDoom 4th Sep 2019 18:47

Today
 
Just want to add there is 3 Saab 2000s, G-CDKA also in the fleet this ac was IOM based for BA cityflyer.

When combining flights the aircraft flies into first affected airport so would route ABZ-NCL-HUY. The exception to this would be when the aircraft needs to end in a specific airport.

Previously operated combined flights were ABZ-MME-NCL to ensure the aircraft was at NCL for the early morning rotation.

fjencl 4th Sep 2019 19:01

I wonder if Eastern put in a bid for the PSO at Dundee airport
Time will tell I guess

AirLCY 4th Sep 2019 23:10

[QUOTE=PintofDoom;10561882]Just want to add there is 3 Saab 2000s, G-CDKA also in the fleet this ac was IOM based for BA cityflyer.

This contract ended over a year ago, did they find a new home for the aircraft ?

Fly757X 4th Sep 2019 23:12

[QUOTE=AirLCY;10562045]

Originally Posted by PintofDoom (Post 10561882)
Just want to add there is 3 Saab 2000s, G-CDKA also in the fleet this ac was IOM based for BA cityflyer.

This contract ended over a year ago, did they find a new home for the aircraft ?

Its flew a bit more for Eastern in the following months but hasn’t flown since 23/08/19.

PintofDoom 5th Sep 2019 10:50

KA
 
Currently in sweden for maintenance checks not sure when it's due back.

fjencl 23rd Sep 2019 19:47

Any new future UK routes in the pipeline..............

NickBarnes 17th Oct 2019 13:17

Eastern service between ABZ - NWI ends next week on the 25th October, as per flybe website and when I contacted Eastern today to ask about the service. Loganair shall be the Sole operator on the route from now on.

FlyingFrl 17th Oct 2019 14:30

Cranfield
 
Anybody knows what multiple 41 aircraft are doing at Cranfield?

rhutch28 17th Oct 2019 23:10


Originally Posted by FlyingFrl (Post 10596779)
Anybody knows what multiple 41 aircraft are doing at Cranfield?

How many of Eastern's Jetstream are in an airworthy condition, can only be about 5 of them

FlyingFrl 18th Oct 2019 08:08

Are they being phased out or just undergoing maintenance?


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