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Fairdealfrank 13th Feb 2020 12:43


Originally Posted by mufc4evr (Post 10678764)
By time the 3rd runway is built LHR will need a 4th

Already needs a 4th rwy, needed a 3rd rwy back in 1977 when the government declared Heathrow to be "full".

bcn_boy 13th Feb 2020 13:48


Originally Posted by Fairdealfrank (Post 10686732)
Already needs a 4th rwy, needed a 3rd rwy back in 1977 when the government declared Heathrow to be "full".

So put a second runway at Gatwick and give the capacity the south east needs. You know it makes sense.

RealFish 13th Feb 2020 13:53


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 10660634)

Regarding my parking question:
I held off phoning the expensive LHR enquiry line and investigated the Northern Perimiter Road by G maps.

The answer is that the Business park for T2+3 is immediately adjacent to Long term T5 (NOT Pod parking) and, further, there is no fence between the zones as they share an exit. So I can book and park in the T5 section and take their bus. On the return, take the Biz Park bus from T3. Hopefully that will be 'simples'.

I asked the same question last year, and did so in reverse - departing from T3 and back to T5. In the end I parked on the Long Stay T5 car park (for a quick getaway, on return) and walked through to the T2/3 biz park to get to T3 for my departure. To be on the safe side, I asked one of the bus drivers (nicely) if it was OK and he pointed me in the direction of the non existent fence...and as he was going on his break / ending his shift, we walked through to the Biz park together (where the drivers' facilities must be).

Asturias56 14th Feb 2020 08:03


Originally Posted by bcn_boy (Post 10686783)
So put a second runway at Gatwick and give the capacity the south east needs. You know it makes sense.


and another at Stansted ........................

bcn_boy 14th Feb 2020 08:43


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10687314)
and another at Stansted ........................

Agree totally with that argument. It will bring much needed competition to the south east, make it cheaper for airlines and free up
access to slots. Heathrow wants it all and the only ones who will benefit are the airport shareholders. Airlines, passengers and people under the flight paths over London are the ones who are disadvantaged.

DaveReidUK 14th Feb 2020 09:25

Here we go again ...

Maybe they could set up a study group to look at hub capacity options in SE UK. They could call it - let me think - how about the Airports Commission ?

Oh, hang on ...

Asturias56 14th Feb 2020 10:51


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10687370)
Here we go again ...

Maybe they could set up a study group to look at hub capacity options in SE UK. They could call it - let me think - how about the Airports Commission ?

Oh, hang on ...

But Dave - every time they say build another runway at LHR it never happens

To quote W C Fields "try try again, and then quit - no point in being a damn fool about it"

VickersVicount 16th Feb 2020 17:54

HAL IT issue tonight causing issue with baggage, stand allocation, flight info screens. Bad enough with weather cancellations... doesn't sound great for BA especially

KelvinD 19th Feb 2020 09:36

Is there something amiss at Heathrow today? A few inbound flights from the US have done circuits around the Chippenham area, while another handful are doing something similar in the Worcester/Birmingham area.

DaveReidUK 19th Feb 2020 09:46


Originally Posted by KelvinD (Post 10691130)
Is there something amiss at Heathrow today? A few inbound flights from the US have done circuits around the Chippenham area, while another handful are doing something similar in the Worcester/Birmingham area.

The arrival rate is down, but only slightly - 169 landings by 10:00 compared to 176 yesterday.

Packer27L 19th Feb 2020 13:58

They lost one runway for a while, clearing up a hydraulic leak. Quite a few inbounds holding en-route, with a few diversions too.

Reported on most of the red-tops’ website, plus here: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/19/plane...hrow-12265820/

DaveReidUK 19th Feb 2020 14:21


Originally Posted by Packer27L (Post 10691320)
They lost one runway for a while, clearing up a hydraulic leak. Quite a few inbounds holding en-route, with a few diversions too.

Reported on most of the red-tops’ website, plus here: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/19/plane...hrow-12265820/

Must have been an interesting few minutes for ATC, with 5 consecutive missed approaches.

KelvinD 21st Feb 2020 17:36

The aircraft causing the aggravation was G-XWBD. It seems G-XWBD may be an "unlucky" aircraft. Or maybe poorly built! The aircraft had a hydraulic issue at Toronto on 12th Feb.
Just 4 days after return to Heathrow, yet another hydraulic issue. And weren't there rumours about nose gear mishaps at Toulouse prior to delivery?

wiggy 21st Feb 2020 18:02


Originally Posted by KelvinD (Post 10692981)
The aircraft causing the aggravation was G-XWBD. It seems G-XWBD may be an "unlucky" aircraft. Or maybe poorly built! The aircraft had a hydraulic issue at Toronto on 12th Feb.
Just 4 days after return to Heathrow, yet another hydraulic issue. And weren't there rumours about nose gear mishaps at Toulouse prior to delivery?

The story is it was “hit in the hangar” at Blagnac not long before it was due to be delivered.

I don’t think we ever really found out what did the hitting and where.....

SWBKCB 27th Feb 2020 09:16

BBC - Environment campaigners win Heathrow expansion case

ETOPS 27th Feb 2020 09:35

Wonder if Boris Johnson will see this as a convenient excuse to ditch the idea and push for regional conectivity?

The AvgasDinosaur 27th Feb 2020 09:57


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10697109)

The various legal teams will be leaping for joy at the cash creation ( I won’t call it earning) possibilities of this decision.
David

Trinity 09L 27th Feb 2020 10:11

Cranford agreement
 
So I assume Heathrow will now go ahead with their granted planning permission to amend the taxiways etc to allow departures on the Northern runway. This will relieve residents in the west of the 18 hours of landings whilst on easterly ops.(Westerly ops have a change at 3pm). They ignored their own application to wait for R3 DCO before going ahead as it would cost £'s, significantly less than the PR budget £££'s

CabinCrewe 27th Feb 2020 11:45

Funny how there are never nimby complaints about expansion transport infrastructure projects in places such as Japan …. with excellent airports and high speed rail.

Trinity 09L 27th Feb 2020 12:03

Announced on BBC, Heathrow are to appeal the decision.


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