DaveReidUK Yes. I read it that you have to have HAD the test and got the documented Negative BEFORE travel. I'm not sure if the test or certificate is the starting of the 72 hours! If I do have to make an urgent trip to South Africa, always a possibility for me, I'll find out and I may have to go via AMS or FRA. Hopefully nothing will blow up with my family and friends.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10924643)
The media reports are a little confusing.
Do they mean that after you arrive, you must then be tested negative within 72 hours ? Or that you won't be allowed in at all unless you have a negative result that's been obtained in the previous 72 hours ? |
Thanks for clarification TCU. My main port of call is JNB as my sister lives in Pretoria, good to know BA are still operating that. Normally, I then go to CPT to see friends and back direct from there.
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Air2000 was Summer 1992 on a Y170 config B734
Saturday - FAO (with W into BRS) followed by a night MLA Sunday - AGP, FAO and a night ALC Monday - LPA and after a long turn-round a night ADB Tuesday - HER and after a long turn-round a night PMI Wednesday - FUE and after a long turn-round a night AGP Thursday - FAO, AGP and a night MLA Friday - AGP (with a W into EXT) and a night TFS |
Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 10925563)
Thanks for clarification TCU. My main port of call is JNB as my sister lives in Pretoria, good to know BA are still operating that. Normally, I then go to CPT to see friends and back direct from there.
I'm hoping with the SA Govt relaxation, BA may re-boot BA59, although it had began to fade from daily even before the latest UK lockdown |
Cheers TCU, I've made a note. We were fortunate to be out in February and got home before the crisis. We left on the '59' on what turned out to be my last BAA 744 ride.
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Originally Posted by LGWAlan
(Post 10925568)
Air2000 was Summer 1992 on a Y170 config B734
Saturday - FAO (with W into BRS) followed by a night MLA Sunday - AGP, FAO and a night ALC Monday - LPA and after a long turn-round a night ADB Tuesday - HER and after a long turn-round a night PMI Wednesday - FUE and after a long turn-round a night AGP Thursday - FAO, AGP and a night MLA Friday - AGP (with a W into EXT) and a night TFS |
Originally Posted by Musket90
(Post 10925941)
From memory I believe these Air2000 flights from Heathrow were operated by British Midland aircraft.
That was a fairly heroic operation, four consecutive days with three rotations, and not the shortest ones either. Minimal scheduled turnrounds for days on end. |
Originally Posted by Downwind_Left
(Post 10924507)
Air 2000 ran a full based programme out of LHR in 1991-1992. Advertised as the first charter flights from Heathrow for 25 years. If you go back far enough... most things have been done before!
BEA did have a lot of holiday flights too, but tended to sell most of them as scheduled YN night tourist fares which were very good value. Travel Club Upminster did charter Air France Caravelles to Nice, Corsica and Basel. Then not much was happening until Swan Tours as WHBM said, started using Northeast Tridents on a quite large summer programme using 3 or 4 a/c from T1, mostly at Weekends and at nights during the week. We flew those to PMI IBZ MAH ALC AGP GRO PSA VCE RMI MUC ZRH MXP TRN TUN MLA, with also a big weekend winter Ski series to MUC ZRH MXP and TUR using at least 2 Tridents. The seating was 123 pax. Later on BMA started some upmarket charters for CIT/Citalia to sardinia, Palma and Faro for Travel Club Upminster and other small niche Co's. The Air2000 tie-up became quite large and was not just from LHR but from around the UK airports with all Y Airbus's used as well. BA also joined the upmarket weekend charter flights to Greece Greek Islands Sardinia Corsica Turkey and Spain/islands for clients such as Sardatur and Neilson (Both Sun & Ski) Many of these have been now converted to scheduled services such was the popularity (well it was popular until Covid 19 popped along) BA's franchise GB Airways was instrumental in re energizing many of the leisure routes that BA had dumped before. Likewise today, (again pre covid) BA compete head to head with Easy Jet (who bought GB Airways in 2008) on those same leisure routes. When we get back to 'normal' these routes are prime fodder... BA until last year also flew the Cunard Line charter flights from LHR to FCO IST VCE TSF BCN & ATH for the Med Fly-cruises on the liner Queen Victoria. They used the 252Y pax 767-300's which were very popular. As such now there is no 767 replacement but I guess the 787 could be used if such flights ever restart. Previously also Qantas had used their 747's for these cruise ship charters from LHR during their 12 hour downtime spent during the day at LHR before their night time departures back to Oz. Oh, I forgot almost - BOAC flew their new 747-100's to Palma from LHR every summer weekend in 1971 and 1972 on package charters for Enterprise, Flair, Hickie Borman and Martin Rooks holidays - all of these Co's owned by BEA... Quite impressive at Palma to see BOAC, KLM, SAS/Scanair, Sabena and the 2 Condor 747's at Palma all arriving and departing on a Saturday afternoon and nightime. Such was the chaos on the ground that the Condor pax simply walked from the aircraft to the waiting coaches to take them to their resort hotels and their bags came later. |
BA until last year also flew the Cunard Line charter flights from LHR to FCO IST VCE TSF BCN & ATH for the Med Fly-cruises on the liner Queen Victoria. |
Originally Posted by LGS6753
(Post 10926470)
Rog - I thought there was a ban on whole-plane charters at LHR, and had been for some years.
Travel Club Upminster did charter Air France Caravelles to Nice, Corsica and Basel. |
Originally Posted by LGS6753
(Post 10926470)
Rog - I thought there was a ban on whole-plane charters at LHR, and had been for some years.
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AA dropping a combined total of 16 flights a week from both JFK & ORD from next month.
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10927747)
AA dropping a combined total of 16 flights a week from both JFK & ORD from next month.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10927937)
It's only 14 weekly today, once daily JFK-LHR and once daily ORD-LHR, both on the B77W.
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AA cease passenger service to LHR from NYC/ORD & Charlotte thru December.
Will continue the JFK & ORD cargo only service. |
Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10928056)
AA cease passenger service to LHR from NYC/ORD & Charlotte thru December.
Will continue the JFK & ORD cargo only service. DaveReidUK Only AA105 has operated since winter season, 101 was dropped. |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10928142)
Only AA105 has operated since winter season, 101 was dropped.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10928378)
While you are correct about AA101 not operating, there has been a daily JFK B772 (10:05/15:25) in addition to the B77W on the AA105/106 rotation. I make that two. :O
UK-US passenger services are going to be at their minimum for months to come I think. |
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