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Playamar2 5th Aug 2020 08:59

Business Traveller are reporting that SpiceJet have secured slots at LHR for flights commencing 1st September, Type and frequency not known, although they have an A330 on lease from HiFly. The slots are valid until the end of October, so presumably leased from another airline.

SWBKCB 5th Aug 2020 09:13

Eastern also launching Teesside from 14 September

Trinity 09L 5th Aug 2020 11:46

Got a jump seat ride on a BM DC9 from Teeside to LHR pre 9/11.😎 those were days.

Scottie Dog 5th Aug 2020 14:42

Those were the days! I managed a jump-seat on Qantas when they operated a MAN-LHR-SYD route.


Trinity 09L 5th Aug 2020 17:10

BA 747 into LHR on a cold crisp sunny morning from Chicago, 757 night approach to LGW, the rest en route visits.

compton3bravo 5th Aug 2020 18:39

Several jump seat rides on BA and BM during the 80s and 90s - those were the days. Regarding the Teesside service I wish them the best of luck, I think they will need it.

LGS6753 6th Aug 2020 10:38


Originally Posted by Playamar2 (Post 10853623)
Business Traveller are reporting that SpiceJet have secured slots at LHR for flights commencing 1st September, Type and frequency not known, although they have an A330 on lease from HiFly. The slots are valid until the end of October, so presumably leased from another airline.

Slots are for 1530 arrival, 1730 departure. The airline is currently negotiating for Winter season slots.

LGS6753 25th Sep 2020 14:11

UK Aviation News are reporting that the much-discussed JetBlue London gateway will be Heathrow. Flights to Boston and JFK will start in spring with newly-delivered A321LRs.

MANFAN 29th Sep 2020 12:43

I read on Twitter that there are COVID-19 tests available at 2 terminals within the airport. I’m flying into Heathrow on Saturday connecting onto a UK domestic route, can anyone get tested? I understand there is a fee which I’m willing to pay.
I’m due to travel to a country on Monday that may require a negative test is provided upon arrival so this would be ideal as I can’t get tested by the NHS for travel...

GAXLN 30th Sep 2020 13:23


Originally Posted by MANFAN (Post 10894818)
I read on Twitter that there are COVID-19 tests available at 2 terminals within the airport. I’m flying into Heathrow on Saturday connecting onto a UK domestic route, can anyone get tested? I understand there is a fee which I’m willing to pay.
I’m due to travel to a country on Monday that may require a negative test is provided upon arrival so this would be ideal as I can’t get tested by the NHS for travel...

The NHS tests are not available for travel purposes. You will need to get a private test.

BAladdy 30th Sep 2020 13:25

BA are transferring there flights to BDA from LGW from 28th March 2021. Flights will operate daily.

wowzz 30th Sep 2020 14:01


Originally Posted by Trinity 09L (Post 10853753)
Got a jump seat ride on a BM DC9 from Teeside to LHR pre 9/11.😎 those were days.

Living in Yarm, I used that route quite a lot back in the late 70s. Arrived at the terminal 15 minutes before departure, hot breakfast en route, car and driver waiting at the terminal, and in the office for 9am. Two hours from bed to office !

MANFAN 1st Oct 2020 08:21


Originally Posted by GAXLN (Post 10895568)
The NHS tests are not available for travel purposes. You will need to get a private test.

I wasn’t aware the tests available at Heathrow were NHS tests, I read you had to pay for them so surly their private?
If testing is available in an airport surly the logic would be the tests can be used for travel...

PAXboy 1st Oct 2020 16:31


Airport Covid testing could start within weeks, says heathrow chief Two-test model could cut quarantine period in half, and allow popular London-New York route to reopen next month
The Guardian


Albert Hall 3rd Oct 2020 12:31

Being reported over on Twitter that Loganair have slots this winter at LHR for two daily services to the Isle of Man. They come up if you play about with the Heathrow Airport flight information system and ask for flight information to the Isle of Man on a date in the winter season.

Trinity 09L 3rd Oct 2020 13:07

Quoted in press and rail industry, the Heathrow rail link from Great West rail likely to be delayed, and at past costings of £900m, HAL to subscribe more.
So a rail link to satisfy the HAL ego, when they provide excess space for car parks which provide income for HAL. 🥴

WHBM 3rd Oct 2020 14:19


Originally Posted by wowzz (Post 10895585)
. Arrived at the terminal 15 minutes before departure, hot breakfast en route, car and driver waiting at the terminal, and in the office for 9am.

I never ran to such heady heights. However, in 1980 our UK office was close to Heathrow. The Chairman, X, got to a Daimler and chauffeur, Y, but was otherwise rather miserly. There was a lot of travel to corporate HQ in the USA. When BA came out with Transatlantic standby fares to combat Skytrain, he wrote around that these should be used. "They are cheaper, and I find I can always get a seat". Much disgruntlement.

One morning my colleague, Z, from the Newcastle office came down on the first BA flight to Heathrow heading for a meeting. Walking out of T1 to get a cab he noticed Chauffeur Y standing in the ticket desk queue. "Oh hello". "Ah, hello there Mr Z. Are you going over to the office ? Hang on a few minutes and I'll give you a lift back. Mr X is going to the USA this afternoon, and I've just been sent over to get his standby ticket". Alright for some.

Asturias56 3rd Oct 2020 14:45

"So a rail link to satisfy the HAL ego, when they provide excess space for car parks which provide income for HAL."

It was also backed by GWR and the local councils - more folk on trains less cars and buses on the M4 towards Reading

If anyone had any sense they could have preserved a west turn chord where the Heathrow Express meets the GWR main line but did they? Of course not ... then they sold the land for building...................................

Trinity 09L 3rd Oct 2020 20:05

Asturias56
I fully agree, it should have gone ahead at the chord you mention. However, building now requires a dive under for a eastbound track to reach the tunnel, and the whole width widened to six tracks, when it has been electrified. Weekend track closures necessary for the construction. Cost overrun from £1bn upwards.
Heathrow recent upgrade of road tunnels at the airport = 400% overspend.

Asturias56 4th Oct 2020 07:38


Originally Posted by Trinity 09L (Post 10897756)
Asturias56
I fully agree, it should have gone ahead at the chord you mention. However, building now requires a dive under for a eastbound track to reach the tunnel, and the whole width widened to six tracks, when it has been electrified. Weekend track closures necessary for the construction. Cost overrun from £1bn upwards.
Heathrow recent upgrade of road tunnels at the airport = 400% overspend.

Well the new junction is in the middle of the Green Belt and open fields so not as potentially troublesome - tho there is a large Travelers permanent encampment very close

To be fair the monster rebuild of Reading Station and the surrounding area did come in under budget and a year ahead of schedule.... one of the few big construction jobs to ever achieve that in the UK. On the other hand GWR electrification... or (whisper it) CrossRail.......................

jfy1999 5th Oct 2020 21:33

Spicejet
 
2 weekly Delhi and 1 weekly Mumbai starting December 4.

https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...ndon-heathrow/

PAXboy 5th Oct 2020 23:23


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10897601)
"... they could have preserved a west turn chord where the Heathrow Express meets the GWR main line but did they? Of course not ...

Money NOW not plan for the future is how I have observed govt for the 45 years I have been watching them. Still happening. The latest foul up on the loss of Covid test results was due to someone using Excel in a format (.XLS) that is now 13 years out of date. Did they pay for people who knew what they were doing and to use the best software for the job?

Always the same elementary mistakes, year after year.

DaveReidUK 6th Oct 2020 06:32


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 10898879)
The latest foul up on the loss of Covid test results was due to someone using Excel in a format (.XLS) that is now 13 years out of date.

In other words, it was caused by somebody who didn't understand the difference between Excel and a database. :O

kcockayne 6th Oct 2020 07:57

There are plenty of us about !

PAXboy 6th Oct 2020 18:31

There might be but NOT those being paid to do the job! A close friend who is a very senior software manager says today (from his grapevine:

In an amusing twist, one team used it as a way to bash management - the developer says it will take a week to write a proper database solution, but the management always insist on cutting that back to two days - so Excel is what you should expect
Mgmt lurv that quick fix and save money. So typical of what I have seen.

Trinity 09L 7th Oct 2020 19:20

Some suggestion that the two last BA 747’s are to leave parallel departures tomorrow morning, with one engaging in a fly past after a circuit. Maybe unsubstantiated gossip.

flyerguy 7th Oct 2020 19:26


Originally Posted by Trinity 09L (Post 10900049)
Some suggestion that the two last BA 747’s are to leave parallel departures tomorrow morning, with one engaging in a fly past after a circuit. Maybe unsubstantiated gossip.

It is true

Wycombe 8th Oct 2020 07:06


It is true
Subject to weather (at Kemble as well as EGLL). Looks to be going ahead at the moment.

DaveReidUK 8th Oct 2020 07:11


Originally Posted by Wycombe (Post 10900298)
Subject to weather (at Kemble as well as EGLL). Looks to be going ahead at the moment.

The weather at LHR may mean that the planned simultaneous departures aren't possible.

LessThanSte 8th Oct 2020 08:43

G-CIVB has been in a hold around Fairford now for about 45 minutes - waiting for weather to clear at Kemble? G-CIVY has landed at St Athan!

Jn14:6 8th Oct 2020 09:16

'VB landed Kemble around 0910Z.

Wycombe 8th Oct 2020 09:20


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10900304)
The weather at LHR may mean that the planned simultaneous departures aren't possible.

Well, they weren't, but the double departures off 27R was nice to watch, as was the serene fly through over 27L about 10 minutes later.

G-CIVB has now arrived at Kemble after a quite lengthy hold in the Brize/Fairford area.

Interested Passenger 8th Oct 2020 11:25


Originally Posted by Wycombe (Post 10900393)
Well, they weren't, but the double departures off 27R was nice to watch, as was the serene fly through over 27L about 10 minutes later.

G-CIVB has now arrived at Kemble after a quite lengthy hold in the Brize/Fairford area.

formation flyover would have been better - one runway each

DaveReidUK 9th Oct 2020 06:34


Originally Posted by Interested Passenger (Post 10900480)
formation flyover would have been better - one runway each

Even if that had been planned, it wouldn't have been possible on the day, for the same reason that the simultaneous takeoffs weren't.

SWBKCB 10th Oct 2020 15:22


In addition to the steps HAL has taken to improve its financial position in response to Covid-19, it has also made a request to the Civil Aviation Authority to adjust its RAB and future regulated aeronautical changes to help protect it from such revenue losses.

In this report, we have set out our initial assessment of HAL's request considering our duties to current and future consumers. While HAL has raised important issues that result from the Covid-19 pandemic, we do not currently consider that HAL has demonstrated that its request is a proportionate response. More broadly, we recognise that there are significant issues that we will need to consider and take account of as part of the next price control review during 2021.
An opinion piece in todays Times suggests that maybe the airports collection of multi-billion pound investors should get their hand in their pockets rather than passing on the costs to airlines and passengers.

UK Civil Aviation Authority launches consultation on Heathrow Airport Limited’s request for RAB readjustment

Navpi 27th Oct 2020 22:18

Is LHR facing nationalisation re burden of debt ?

Many observers always questioned LHRs indebtedness despite the view from many with rose tinted glasses that it was the jewel in the crown of UK aviation, especially with bold statements re runway 3,

They always appeared flaky without a massive government injection.

it looks as though its now in trouble with reserves running out in 15 months.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...mpression=true

southside bobby 28th Oct 2020 07:53

LHR loses £1.5b in the first nine months of 2020 & overtaken by CDG in terms of traffic for the first time ever.
Blames lack of Covid testing compared with European airports.

LTNman 28th Oct 2020 08:30

So how many passengers have been airport tested in Europe? I would think it is next to no one. The reason for Heathrow’s woes is Covid.

Playamar2 28th Oct 2020 09:59

CDG has overtaken LHR probably due to more countries being exempt from quarantine (all the EU) and only 7 days isolation. From the French Gov't site

f you are arriving from a country on the list below and have not visited a country not on the list in the month prior to your arrival in metropolitan France, you will not be subject to a seven-day isolation period.

Member States of the European Union, Andorra, Australia, Canada, Georgia, the Holy See, Iceland, Japan, Liechtenstein, Monaco, New Zealand, Norway, Rwanda, San Marino, South Korea, Switzerland, Thailand, Tunisia, the United Kingdom and Uruguay.

If you are arriving from another country or have visited another country in the month prior to your arrival, you will be subject to a seven-day isolation period if:
  • You have symptoms of COVID-19 on arrival; or
  • You cannot present a negative PCR test, carried out less than 72 hours before departure.




SWBKCB 28th Oct 2020 10:56

Does CDG have a bigger domestic market?


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