Originally Posted by JW95
(Post 10802234)
what are the major projects underpinning the transformation? At one stage I thought that MAG were planning to completely refurbish satellite 2 and 3 to bring them in line with satellite 1 (well, perhaps not satellite 3 as its FR turf), but satellite 2 could definitely do with an overhaul. The last time I travelled through there, the place looked as if it hadn’t been touched well before the end of the BAA days with very old carpeting, poor lighting, darkened corridors and light fittings not working on several of the jet bridges (of which none appear to have been used in years). It definitely looks very shabby and in poor relation to some of the other areas of the terminal- one does wonder why AA chose SAT 2 to operate their JFK service to and build their business lounge in when they served STN.
Expanding the bussing gates to 10 from 4 gates. Redesign of the bridge linking SAT2 to the Terminal. Updating SAT2 to similar level as SAT1. Adding double airbridges to SAT1. |
Current projects at least before the start of the pandemic include, Sat 3 gates being designed with bus-stop like bench style seating after successful trial on Gate 43. Also installing new FEGP and stand guidance.
Fully automating the new shoreline check in desks to the baggage system. New and improved security system added to Terminal forecourt area which eventually will be rolled out across all security lanes. The Track Transit has had some refreshing works to the interior and better way finding installed. Futurewise, the arrival terminal concept is under review/redesign with probably a more phased approach to opening. Extension to the APV (Gates 90-93) for more bussing gates. There was a potential redesign to the Sat 2 link, I think possibly making some use of the void space above the domestic lounge (Gates 80-88), maybe even removing the intl/domestic split at some point. New MARS stands 81, 82 and 90-93 were completed end of last year. Possible in the future that dual taxilanes will be added to the Delta apron. Of course all this is up in the air at the moment giving the current situation. |
I've had a look through the ACL report for winter 2020/2021, compared the slots granted (not just requested) and looked for route changes that have not been already announced. I must emphasise that this is based on slots granted - airlines can and sometimes do decline to take up routes, so this is only a "what might happen", not a "what wll happen". In a normal year, many of these routes would have been announced by now; I'm guessing a sizeable number of them simply won't happen:
Eurowings: Salzburg cancelled LOT: 1x daily E190 to Budapest Turkish: New routes to Ankara and both Istanbul airports TUS: 1x daily to Larnaca https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...TN-W20-ICR.pdf |
Quite telling, and maybe predictable, that list is quite thin whereas there is some interesting stuff over at LGW (accepting some of it will never start) including routes and airlines that have been rumoured or would fit well at STN. In particular Spicejet and/or Vistara, Wideroe (although of course they had just departed STN for SEN...also bad news for them) and worryingly SAS to Copenhagen - surely they won’t run flights from three London airports?
Edit - Actually it’s not that bad compared to LGW - it’s just that an extensive Wizz allocation makes the list look longer and better. LGW are losing a lot too, possibly more than STN but we’ll see. |
I wouldn’t hold your breath on TUS to Larnaca .
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New from Stansted, not from main passenger terminal though.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/06/14/...arting-july-3/ |
DUS
FR to launch STN-DUS service, taking over the once former Air Berlin/Darwin Airline route. Nice to see DUS back on the STN map again.
Source: https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...uly/?market=en |
Are Ryanair planning on running routes from Stansted to both Düsseldorf and Dortmund in parallel ?
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Originally Posted by intortola
(Post 10811016)
New from Stansted, not from main passenger terminal though.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/06/14/...arting-july-3/ |
MAG Group - May 2020
Pax
Stansted – 20,607 down 99.2% Manchester – 18,750 down 99.3% East Mids – zero Cargo East Mids – 30,547 down 0.7% Stansted – 21,210 up 14.1% Manchester 1,342 down 85.9% Traffic figures at all MAG airports were severely impacted by the outbreak of Covid-19 in May, as travel restrictions and a dramatic reduction in demand for flights impacted the Group’s passenger numbers. MAG’s reduction was reflective of world trends, with global travel demand reduced by 97% compared to previous year, according to UK Government data. All MAG airports saw passenger figures reduce by at least 99.3% year-on-year in May, with MAG’s three airports serving 39,357 passengers between them, compared with 5.7 million last May. At London Stansted Airport and East Midlands Airports, cargo figures held up well (STN: +14.1%, EMA: -0.7%) as key freight operators used the airports to keep essential goods flowing into the country and providing UK firms with a key route to export. East Midlands Airport was one of the most resilient European airports by flight numbers in May, as its important role as the UK’s biggest airport for cargo aircraft continued. |
Originally Posted by UnderASouthernSky
(Post 10814166)
A tiny bit of digging suggests that a VIP A340 is offered for the flight, with a company called Caledonia Jets involved. However, their website with some mis-matched jet images and not being able to spell "Carribean" [sic] doesn't inspire a huge amount of confidence.
list Caledonia Jets as a member.. |
I like the idea of booking this lot, and finding myself on Tupelov 134, as per their fb cover photo...
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5c38cb94f0.jpg Also, if you are a fool, and easily parted from your money, why not sign up for the "Caledonia Jets Fly For Free programme" - $4million profit over 5 years.... Anyone know who Nick Mundy and Karen Drummond the directors of Caledonia Jets are? |
Caledonia Jet seems to be have been established as far back as....August 2019, according to Companies House records. Nothing to worry about there, then.
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Seems passengers at Stansted can’t social distance when 3 flights depart.
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/06...nsted-airport/ |
Not surprising is it, as Stansted is in the bottom 3 along with Luton & Manchester for queues at security/passport control according to Which.
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I think the point being with STN Pax ops running at <5% pre COVID ops this week you would expect no queues at arrivals.
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Easyjet are pulling its base out of Stansted. Big surprise but I don’t think they were really ever committed to the airport being a legacy of Go.
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I for one am not surprised at all, I expected it some time ago. My guess is the domestics will be retained and little if anything else, although surely at least one of SEN or STN will retain an AMS route.
In the slightly longer term it gives an opportunity for Jet2 to pick up some extra slots and stands if their own circumstances allow. Can’t see who else would be interested |
Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10825500)
I for one am not surprised at all, I expected it some time ago. My guess is the domestics will be retained and little if anything else, although surely at least one of SEN or STN will retain an AMS route.
In the slightly longer term it gives an opportunity for Jet2 to pick up some extra slots and stands if their own circumstances allow. Can’t see who else would be interested I too can see the domestics remaining and Jet2 winning on all other routes. Southend has the most to lose here. |
Is there enough demand in Cambridge to connect in Amsterdam to fly elsewhere, beyond what is served from London City and Norwich ?
Maybe there was in 2018 or 2019, but not sure there's enough demand in the next 12 months |
I suspect STN's future EZY schedule will look a bit like what they have from BHX, with the addition maybe of AMS. Could still give at least a dozen or so daily flights.
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Originally Posted by FRatSTN
(Post 10825612)
I suspect STN's future EZY schedule will look a bit like what they have from BHX, with the addition maybe of AMS. Could still give at least a dozen or so daily flights.
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10825518)
Is there enough demand in Cambridge to connect in Amsterdam to fly elsewhere, beyond what is served from London City and Norwich ?
Maybe there was in 2018 or 2019, but not sure there's enough demand in the next 12 months Southend however has no EZY domestics to my knowledge? That’ll be interesting to see what they do there. |
It would be easy to turn the Amsterdam service into an inside W pattern such as LGW-AMS-STN-AMS-LGW. I think the three most likely "survivors" are the Amsterdam, Glasgow and Edinburgh services. The Glasgow and Edinburgh services already use Scottish based aircraft so no changes are required,
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there were no first wave departure slots available at Stansted so it will be interesting to see who, if anyone, takes the seven first wave slots that Easyjet will vacate.
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Originally Posted by STN Ramp Rat
(Post 10825723)
It would be easy to turn the Amsterdam service into an inside W pattern such as LGW-AMS-STN-AMS-LGW. I think the three most likely "survivors" are the Amsterdam, Glasgow and Edinburgh services. The Glasgow and Edinburgh services already use Scottish based aircraft so no changes are required,
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Why would they need to operate AMS as a W? AMS is an EZY base. I would have thought that several other EZY bases such as Berlin, Geneva and Milan would have enough traffic to sustain a route.
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The best possible outcome for STN would be that EZY build a new network inbound from bases like BCN, BER, GVA, NAP, CDG, NCE while cutting back those routes from LTN to facilitate the previously announced new routes and capacity increases in response to Wizz - but that of course would seem very unlikey.
BFS, EDI, GLA, AMS and on the outside chance possibly CDG, NAP and a winter GVA I think may all be that's left. |
Throw into the Mix, AMS slots are few and far between as well. Expect some juggling of times but basically the same number of rotations but with away crews & aircraft. EZY do not generally do W routes from UK bases, but the idea has gone around the scheduling guys before but the crews would not like it but who knows currently when everyone is trying to keep their job. It would move from EZY UK to EZY Europe to work out.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10825433)
Easyjet are pulling its base out of Stansted. Big surprise but I don’t think they were really ever committed to the airport being a legacy of Go.
Watching for news on Ryanair’s Luton base. |
EZY STN base
As others have said, unsurprising, yet sad news. This has definitely been in the making for some years now, with some of the former EZY routes such as CPH, ALC, CIA and GVA having been taken over by FR or withdrawn completely, and the number of based aircraft declining in favour of LTN/LGW expansion. I can certainly see EZY retaining some presence at STN, at least domestically, since FR appear to have given up on most of those routes. Internationally, it will be interesting to see what happens, especially with long standing routes like AMS. If that goes amongst others, no doubt LS will be keen to swoop in, perhaps even increase the number of based aircraft in place of EZY's withdrawal. Who knows, maybe KLM might be willing to give STN another shot at the AMS route.
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Does EZY own their first wave slots?
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Originally Posted by Harrych
(Post 10826189)
Does EZY own their first wave slots?
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Malta's AirX Charter to launch scheduled leisure charters
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Disappointing, as from the east side of London it's far more straightforward and quicker to get to Stansted than Luton - that's over in Bedfordshire.
The downside of a W pattern is that you can't readily do early morning departures, and thus miss out on the business market for these. I can remember back in Go days the huge check-in queues for the early departures, many in suits. Has that market really all gone ? |
Originally Posted by WHBM
(Post 10826292)
Disappointing, as from the east side of London it's far more straightforward and quicker to get to Stansted than Luton - that's over in Bedfordshire.
The downside of a W pattern is that you can't readily do early morning departures, and thus miss out on the business market for these. I can remember back in Go days the huge check-in queues for the early departures, many in suits. Has that market really all gone ? Jet2 will be the real winners on the sun routes to Palma, Mahon, Ibiza, Malaga, Dubrovnik, Dalaman etc. In fact I think they won that war from day one when they appeared at Stansted. A lot of posters on here were certain they’d fail. Domestics heading inbound from Belfast, Glasgow and Edinburgh with EZY will continue to work as they will always feature an early morning in the direction of Stansted. When you compare the losses at Stansted, it’s still small in comparison to the losses seen at Gatwick for instance. One less loco might pave the way for something more ‘full service’ in the future. Aviation will bounce back in the next few years. |
Jet2 have certainly made a real success of Stansted so far, their customer service as well there really being spot on at check-in etc. I do wonder if however they are now eyeing Gatwick, which they haven't served before but will have slots going, for their next stage of expansion, it will give them a whole new market.
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Originally Posted by SealinkBF
(Post 10825851)
This is all very convenient for Ryanair.
Watching for news on Ryanair’s Luton base. |
Originally Posted by pamann
(Post 10826301)
Totally agree. From the east side of London, Luton is a total ball ache. Heathrow might as well be on the other side of the planet, and Gatwick you have to grapple with the Dartford crossing and the M25.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10826644)
And Stansted is a nightmare to get to for the areas you have listed above as travel is a two way process.
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