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If they don't make money they seem to quickly pull loss making routes. Will be interesting to see what happens on the Newquay route.....Bergen I'm sure will work as would Oslo, if it happens.
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Rumour has it that Newquay is selling very well. No surprise as Bristol does c.17k pax per month with not a great schedule. Likewise, Exeter with a schedule that mirrors Bristol does okay. Newquay is another 100 miles away, so it should do well. |
Don't suppose anyone knows why the Ryanair DUB took so long to land after the go-around yesterday??
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Yeh I noticed that.aircraft all over ! Too much traffic? |
Dont know if its been reported on here about TUI flying NCL to Sharm from Nov 20 ?
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Originally Posted by fl dutchman
(Post 10628291)
Dont know if its been reported on here about TUI flying NCL to Sharm from Nov 20 ?
was just about to add tui seems to be adding SSH again from november 2020 from uk airports |
Jet2
will we see Newcastle to Lisbon go on sale next week ?? |
Originally Posted by HH6702
(Post 10628403)
Jet2
will we see Newcastle to Lisbon go on sale next week ?? |
Originally Posted by jensdad
(Post 10628456)
I don't know... will we see Newcastle to Lapeenranta go on sale next week? Or do you have some inside info you can share with us? :)
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Jet2 announcement that it will fly to Lisbon from a number of U.K. AIRPORTS was said by the company to the travel trade paper a few days ago. there will also be another destination going on sale Lisbon was on the Airports wish list |
Ah OK. Fingers crossed :)
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A post on the TUI thread mentions a TUI a/c positioning into NCL from GTW today and then operating a flight to Eindhoven....aircraft involved G-OOBA
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
(Post 10629166)
A post on the TUI thread mentions a TUI a/c positioning into NCL from GTW today and then operating a flight to Eindhoven....aircraft involved G-OOBA
LGW? |
Sorry....LGW...typo
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GTW is the train station !
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
(Post 10629166)
A post on the TUI thread mentions a TUI a/c positioning into NCL from GTW today and then operating a flight to Eindhoven....aircraft involved G-OOBA
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Has anyone noticed Jet2 seem to have dropped a NCL to CFU from their schedule for 2020 - in the 2019 summer season they flew Mondays and Tuesdays (previously Mondays and Fridays) this has been reduced to just Mondays next year.
Thomas Cook provided 3 a week of this route I believe in Summer 2019 - none of which are being replaced - some of the prices for 2020 with the remaining providers (ie TUI) is eyewatering. |
Originally Posted by milhouse999
(Post 10629958)
Has anyone noticed Jet2 seem to have dropped a NCL to CFU from their schedule for 2020 - in the 2019 summer season they flew Mondays and Tuesdays (previously Mondays and Fridays) this has been reduced to just Mondays next year.
Thomas Cook provided 3 a week of this route I believe in Summer 2019 - none of which are being replaced - some of the prices for 2020 with the remaining providers (ie TUI) is eyewatering. in the “old” days Tuesday was never a Corfu day and in fact the airport was very quiet but Jet2 had flights from about 3 bases - perhaps if these are gone too then Tuesday and Corfu don’t go - it may not be a NCL issue. |
Originally Posted by DanAir89
(Post 10630267)
I think the Tuesday flight was dropped in the first release for 2020. I noted because we went on it this summer. Although full both ways in August it appeared to have loads more availability in the weeks leading up to departure than the Monday flight which was often sold out. Perhaps more money to be made on the Turkish flight thtat I think has replaced it. in the “old” days Tuesday was never a Corfu day and in fact the airport was very quiet but Jet2 had flights from about 3 bases - perhaps if these are gone too then Tuesday and Corfu don’t go - it may not be a NCL issue. Good points - we do NCL - CFU several times a year - we were spoilt for choice this year and getting flights for £40-50 each way on some occasions, sadly now we've lost 1x Jet2 and 3x TCX on this route some are as high as £700 return at peak 2020 - cheaper to do NCL>LHR>CFU! Purely for selfish reasons I hope another operator adds capacity. As you say, other routes will probably make more revenue. Surprised Easyjet only has 1 a week to this destination, |
Jet 2 seems to have restored Corfu to 2 weekly from 1 and increased Zante to 3 weekly from 2 for Summer 20.
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
(Post 10631072)
Jet 2 seems to have restored Corfu to 2 weekly from 1 and increased Zante to 3 weekly from 2 for Summer 20.
ZTH showing as Monday Wednesday and Saturday RHO showing as Wednesday and Saturday HER showing as Tuesday and Friday others AYT X4 weekly BJV X2 weekly BOJ x2 weekly DLM X6 weekly ( 2 on Fridays ) |
Bdaily reporting that for winter 2020 in addition to TUI adding SSH, there will be a Friday flight to HRG, Sunday to ACE and Monday to Enfida. Would appear to be second based aircraft Fri - Mon? |
From the 7th November 2020 TUI weekly flights to Sharm El Sheikh will be operating on Saturdays from Newcastle Airport. As well as Sharm El Sheikh for winter 2020, the holiday company will also be introducing new routes to Tunisia (departing weekly on a Monday) and Hurghada (departing weekly on a Friday). TUI have also added 10 and 11 night holidays to Lanzarote with the addition of a weekly flight operating every Sunday from Newcastle airport, giving holidaymakers from the North East more flexibility |
https://onemileatatime.com/united-airlines-a321xlr/
Wonder if a return to Newcastle could be on the cards following expansion of Trans Atlantic services, with the acquisition of 50 new A321XLR aircraft. As stated in the article this number of 50 new A321XLRs exceed requirements only to replace their 757 Transatlantic fleet.. From the attached link article: "What Will United Use A321XLRs For? Many of us expected that United would order the A321XLR, because it’s a one-of-a-kind airplane. United’s 757 fleet is aging (their 757s are an average of 22 years old), and they need to replace them. United notes that they plan to use the A321XLR largely for transatlantic flights out of Washington and Newark, with the possibility of serving additional destinations in Europe. …. If that plan sticks, then it does in fact seem like United plans to significantly expand transatlantic operations with narrow body aircraft. That’s because they don’t need 50 A321XLRs to replace their current transatlantic 757 operations." |
Emirates EK35 has just aborted landing at NCL and is currently making 2nd attempt. Strong wind gust maybe?
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Originally Posted by VentureGo
(Post 10634833)
Emirates EK35 has just aborted landing at NCL and is currently making 2nd attempt. Strong wind gust maybe?
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aborted landing.
Originally Posted by Falcon900LX
(Post 10634846)
Wind 240° at 17kts, Gusting to 28kts, so without being inspector morse, I’d way you’re right. |
Yes, it did.
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Easyjet
new routes to be announced tomorrow let’s hope Newcastle sees something from them 4th aircraft would be nice |
Probably no chance of that, NCL expansion not on their radar.
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Originally Posted by deltahotel9
(Post 10636693)
Probably no chance of that, NCL expansion not on their radar.
well never mind, amazing how EasyJet with 7 aircraft based at Newcastle at one time allowed Jet 2 with 1 737qc to dominate and displace them at Newcastle! |
allowed Jet 2 with 1 737qc to dominate and displace them at Newcastle! |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10636966)
Clearly more money to be made elsewhere!
But look how much jet 2 are making 🤗 |
But accurate - look at how many bases the two airlines have and their repective rate of expansion. EZY tend not to miss open goals - even Jet2 are growing NCL slowly than many of their other bases.
The simple truth is that NCL serves a relatively small, relatively poor market. |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10636986)
But accurate - look at how many bases the two airlines have and their repective rate of expansion. EZY tend not to miss open goals - even Jet2 are growing NCL slowly than many of their other bases.
The simple truth is that NCL serves a relatively small, relatively poor market. perhaps easyJet don’t understand the NCL market - Ssh or a turkish flight may have been a good idea. Hamburg perhaps not... having spoken to a London based agency this week who contacted me about a job in Leeds and suggested it was only a 50min commute it reinforced my view that there is a lot of ignorance about the north east especially In London. jet2 are following airtours to a certain extent doing really well in northern markets that they understand. It eventually started to go all wrong for Airtours as they moved further south.... |
Given the circumstances, I think the team at NCL are doing pretty decently. The new KH Munich service opens up a lot of Germany, and hopefully it and DUS can co-exist. Loganair seem to be doing well, with Brussels now starting to move upwards despite not having an inter line agreement with SN. AF mainline increasing to 2 x daily next summer- more capacity there. EK seem to have settled down again following the start of EDI flights. Plenty of growth could be seen from them again without going double daily. BA, I'm not sure what's going on with them though them seem to be using more A321s nowadays. Then KLM are always consistent. Yes, the capacity to the Canaries will be down, but yields for the airlines will likely increase
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I believe the way Easyjet works is the local base chiefs present proposals for new routes that they think will work, then upper management allocate aircraft to a base depending on the financial forecast they were presented with. So I don't think its really a case of the London office not understanding the Northern market, but more those on the ground being unable to present a plan that compares to those from other bases. Lets not forget Easyjet have bases all across Europe to think about - that's a lot of competition for the aircraft.
Also lets not forget that they both target slightly different market segments - Easyjet is more about city breaks and business travel, while Jet2 are more focused on package holidays and bucket and spade destinations. With the launch of Easyjet holidays recently, we may see a shift in focus in future, which Newcastle may well benefit from. |
Agree with all of the comments above which are within the spirit of my initial comment, easyJet’s loss for not wanting more Geordie passengers! |
easyJet have stayed reasonably stationary over the last few years at NCL.
Ryanair have decreased their presence at NCL over the last few years. Jet2 have not expanded like some believe and have in-fact stayed stationary similar to easyJet. The peak-summer weekly departures by Jet2 over the last few years are as follows: Aug-17 - 96x weekly departures, 7x based aircraft Aug-18 - 99x weekly departures, 7x based aircraft Aug-19 - 100x weekly departures, 7x based aircraft Aug-20 - 100x weekly departures, 7x based aircraft EMA, BFS, GLA and EDI have also seen very little expansion from Jet2 over the last few summers in comparison to LBA, BHX, STN and MAN which have had large and continued expansion. Jet2 are now focused on other markets and seem to be happy to keep their smaller bases the same. TUI however have steadily increased their NCL presence over the last couple of years, and next year will see a significant increase in flights and another based aircraft. |
Any news on the repair on SX-ABQ? 11 weeks almost now. |
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