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EK77WNCL 21st Sep 2017 22:47

I was wondering about Split, I couldn't remember whether it started late May or late June last year. Either way, I know it's a short season. Hope to see it come back!

Completely understand skyman's point and he's exactly right. In any situation, the routes/schedules proposed are almost guaranteed to require a 4th based frame. I still do hope this will happen, because a lot of new routes would then become viable (Either that or operated by "away" frames as opposed to "home" frames)

Fortunately (or unfortunately, as the case may be) it would seem that easyJet has hit a profitable sweet spot at Newcastle. They could probably still make money bringing in a 4th or even 5th A319/20 and bringing back Amsterdam, Venice, Munich, Milan, Copenhagen, Budapest, Ibiza, am Bristol rotations, Gatwick/Stansted and the like... But they make *more* money plying ALC, AGP, FAO, PMI daily, and operating "optimised" BRS/BFS flights... Which is why 50% of EZY's BFS rotations are on Friday and Sunday alone.

On BRS/BFS, EZY cater for the VFR market, and an extremely limited amount of flexible business traffic. It makes sense, but it's still rather frustrating for the regular users. More so for those that used to take advantage of the day returns on offer before the turn of the decade

I live in hope... One day, someone might take a leap of faith and I hope it pays off for them. With TFS, CFU, RHO, SPU, SXF and the new BRS schedule, things are certainly looking up, but it'll be a matter of how far they're willing to go with it

LiamNCL 22nd Sep 2017 05:23


Originally Posted by Beatts (Post 9899811)
Interesting, Thomas Cook operating a W pattern flight using based ac for Leeds to Antalya next summer.

Looks like other bases doing similar W patterns for AYT aswell

NorthEasterner 23rd Sep 2017 21:24

Gdansk timings are changing from beginning of the winter season on the Friday. New timings are 19.15 GDN Dep 20.30 NCL Arr -- 20.55 NCL Dep with a 00.10 GDN Arr

Not sure if any others routes have been changed.

Jamesair 24th Sep 2017 13:48

Easyjet summer schedules from 24th June.....release date is 27th Sept.

EK77WNCL 24th Sep 2017 14:29

Is that earlier than usual? I thought it was always a bit of a wait between March-June and June onwards

Jamesair 24th Sep 2017 16:08

I think you are probably right but that's the release date shown on the EZY website.

skyman771 24th Sep 2017 19:04

Ref EZY, I've done a few SXF trips of late & they appear to have German FA's.
Are these flights also SXF based frames ?
If so, is this type of operation becoming more frequent at NCL & thus assisting expansion given that based frames are fully utilized.
In winter I often use the GVA flights & note that GVA appears a large EZY base. To my knowledge this flight has always run as part of NCL based operations.
Are many EZY flights out of NCL operated by non based aircraft & if so is this seasonal ?

VentureGo 24th Sep 2017 19:15

Last few times I've been to Geneva, Return flight on Saturday has been on a Bristol based a/c & crew, who were the returning to GVA then finishing their day from GVA to BRS

mockingjay 24th Sep 2017 19:18

SXF is, BRS is in Summer but it reverts to NCL crews in winter. I'm 90% sure in previous years the evening GVA on a Saturday was GVA crews.

There was talk of BFS and BRS being crewed by their based aircraft allowing NCL based planes and crews to fly new routes or increase frequencies. I've not had a look to see yet but from what I gather it's just BRS in summers that are operated by BRS based crews. No sign of BFS yet.

It seems BFS has an extra craft based there from next year, so who knows. I'm sure BFS is a nice littler for the NCL base, so long may it continue to be a NCL based route.

GrahamK 24th Sep 2017 19:43

SXF is indeed operated by the SXF base.
GVA is AFAIK a NCL based op which often does a W into BOH

nclops 24th Sep 2017 19:47

The SXF flights are all operated by SXF based A/C. The late evening BRS is operated by BRS based A/C and some of the BFS flights are operated by BFS based A/C. The GVA flights on a Saturday during the winter are operated by a NCL based A/C for the morning flight but the evening flight comes through as a W pattern from another base, not sure which base through.

tigertanaka 24th Sep 2017 20:10


Originally Posted by Jamesair (Post 9902426)
Easyjet summer schedules from 24th June.....release date is 27th Sept.

Good info. If this has date has been brought forwards, I assume this is U2 trying to capitalise on the problems at FR.

Some very good deals on U2 if you can get in early. Last week I snagged flights from NCL to PMI over Easter including seats for £40 each return and NCL-JER over the May bank holiday weekend for £60 each return.

VentureGo 24th Sep 2017 20:10


The GVA flights on a Saturday during the winter are operated by a NCL based A/C for the morning flight but the evening flight comes through as a W pattern from another base, not sure which base through.
I was returning on the Saturday evening GVA flight (March), operated by Bristol a/c & crew which was then returning to Geneva before finishing their day on a last leg GVA to Bristol - The W pattern you mention above.

milhouse999 25th Sep 2017 12:01

Thomas Cook seem to have dropped their extra NCL-CFU flights that were meant to be running throughout next summer on a Thursday evening.

Just tried to book and they're not on their website anymore.

LiamNCL 25th Sep 2017 12:22

Extra ZTH also dropped in favour of extra DLM / AYT & NBE

milhouse999 25th Sep 2017 12:31

Interesting.... advertise a new schedule for 2018 then bin it a week later.

I was about to book one of the Thursday night flights the other day too, as we do NCL-CFU about 5 times a year and it fitted in perfectly with our work schedule! Glad I didn't!

LiamNCL 25th Sep 2017 14:41

Agree there is alot of fiddling going on with schedules at the moment seat maps look out of date still aswell not sure we even have a A320 here next summer

VentureGo 25th Sep 2017 16:12

Danish Air Transport DX961 (ATR42-500 reg. OY-RUO) from CPH landed at 16.14. Leaving NCL for STN at 18:00 as DX5611. Is this an ad hoc charter or to ferry a/c - Listed on FR24 and Newcastle Airport's Departure Board as scheduled.

SWBKCB 25th Sep 2017 16:30

Sunderland AFC to play Ipswich tomorrow.

GrahamK 26th Sep 2017 07:17

Problems with this morning WMI arrival? It's been holding overheat at 10,000ft for the past 20 mins, along with the FR LearJet at 15,000ft.


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