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GiveMeABreak 19th Feb 2020 14:04

I've lost the plot with all the schedule changes but are you looking at Loganair or Flybe. I believe Flybe are operating the service in May.

Expressflight 19th Feb 2020 14:10

Not really. ABZ-SEN is bookable via NCL on the flybe website but involves an aircraft change so unlikely to attract much business. It looks like Loganair will cease operating ABZ-SEN on 17th April.

GiveMeABreak 19th Feb 2020 14:21

I certainly have lost the plot:rolleyes:

NickBarnes 19th Feb 2020 14:23

Yes correct was the Loganair, as said looks to be gone from mid April

asdf1234 20th Feb 2020 15:02


Originally Posted by NickBarnes (Post 10691336)
Yes correct was the Loganair, as said looks to be gone from mid April

A spokesperson for Loganair, said: "Bookings for Aberdeen to London Southend have been below expectations, and we’ve therefore reluctantly taken the decision to no longer operate the route, with the last flight being on April 17.
“We apologise to customers for the inconvenience caused and will work with them to put alternative travel plans in place, with the alternative of a full refund.“Loganair remains committed to Aberdeen Airport, and will be pressing ahead with the launch of Aberdeen to Haugesund in Norway flights on 24 February.”

asdf1234 22nd Feb 2020 16:16

More noise complaints
 
AIRPORT bosses say they are willing to work with furious residents to reduce the impact of flights upon them - especially if they live in Leigh.

Southend Airport chiefs met with Southend Council and MP Sir David Amess to discuss residents’ concerns about the impact of the terminal’s flight paths.

Glyn Jones, chief executive of Southend Airport, and Alison Griffin, chief executive of Southend Council, attended the meeting.

Sir David said the purpose of the meeting was to share the growing list of complaints from campaigners on air pollution, night flights and other concerns.

The Southend West MP said he left them in no doubt this is an issue which is not going to go away and one which needs action now.

He told the bosses the night flights are “unacceptable”, pollution levels are a worry and some residents living adjacent to the Charlie Taxiway - which is metres from their homes at times - wanted their properties compulsory purchased.

Sir David said the number of night flights - which are agreed as part of a Section 106 planning agreement between Southend Council and the airport - was discussed but any changes would have to be mutually agreed between the airport and the authority.

The Tory MP said he plans to send all members of the airport consultative committee the most recent list of resident complaints.

Ron Woodley, Southend Council deputy council leader, said: “Councillor Carole Mulroney is working hard on this issue with the airport and residents.

“The agreement was the airport can do 120 night flights each month, but it only has 90.”

The indepedent member added: “Any opportunity to change would come if the airport wanted to increase the number of flights.”

A Southend Airport spokesman said: “The councillors are in dialogue with the airport and have expressed the views of residents.

“The airport in turn is listening and engaging. We are together formulating an action plan.

“Though we are not yet at a stage where we can offer definitive steps, we are actively exploring opportunities to reduce the impact of flights over Leigh.

“We will provide an update as soon as we are able.”

SARF 23rd Feb 2020 14:54

Same old whiners .. Southend is still under what the council agreed and no one else in the whole borough cares about westleigh and the marine estate

LTNman 23rd Feb 2020 15:45

Rather dumb and selfish comment from someone that lacks any compassion for other people’s plight. You might find it hard to accept but everyone is entitled to complain when their lives are blighted, something you seem uncomfortable with.

SARF 24th Feb 2020 21:50

im not uncomfortable with their whining,, im just telling you the facts.. The marine estate residents showed little compassion for people parking up there to use Leigh station which has been there for decades.. they get the same compassion in return when the decades old airport gets busy

guv34 27th Feb 2020 19:45

Amazon
 
Heard on the grapevine that Amazon are moving more flight s from EMA to SEN

LTNman 27th Feb 2020 20:14

Can’t move that many if they are night flights. Compared to EMA Southend is not exactly well connected not that it seems to bother Amazon.

Expressflight 28th Feb 2020 08:34

LTNman

[QUOTE Compared to EMA Southend is not exactly well connected not that it seems to bother Amazon.[/QUOTE]

That's funny I always thought that SEN was closer to Amazon's 2 million sq. ft. fulfilment centre at Tilbury than is EMA.

Barling Magna 28th Feb 2020 08:42

Yes, bit of an error there LTNman.......

asdf1234 28th Feb 2020 09:39


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 10697967)
LTNman

[QUOTE Compared to EMA Southend is not exactly well connected not that it seems to bother Amazon.

That's funny I always thought that SEN was closer to Amazon's 2 million sq. ft. fulfilment centre at Tilbury than is EMA.[/QUOTE]

There are approximately 2 dozen fulfilment centres around the country, the majority being with easy reach of EMA (Daventry, Coventry, Rugely and Coalville come to mind but I'm sure Peterborough and Milton Keynes also use EMA).

Back to the original post about Amazon moving flights from EMA to SEN I can't see that happening as SEN is quite remote from all of the aforementioned centres, Yes Tilbury is nearby and SEN most probably caters for Tilbury exclusively. All of which is moot as the night time quota at SEN has already been used up with the current Amazon flights. There can be no more night time movements at SEN and I'm not sure Amazon would want to move to day operations.

Expressflight 28th Feb 2020 09:57

asdf1234

Actually there is scope within the night quota to add a third aircraft to the SEN base for night time operations.

asdf1234 28th Feb 2020 11:14


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 10698061)
asdf1234

Actually there is scope within the night quota to add a third aircraft to the SEN base for night time operations.

Happy to be corrected if my maths is askew. I thought the night time quota was 120 movements and there are currently 4 movements each night (2 arrivals and 2 departures)?

pabely 28th Feb 2020 11:22


Originally Posted by asdf1234 (Post 10698123)
Happy to be corrected if my maths is askew. I thought the night time quota was 120 movements and there are currently 4 movements each night (2 arrivals and 2 departures)?

120 per month.

DC3 Dave 28th Feb 2020 11:34

https://www.southend.gov.uk/download...mary_table.pdf

asdf1234 28th Feb 2020 11:51


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10698132)
120 per month.

Yes, 120 per month. So 4 a night for 30 days a month eats up the whole quota. Am I wrong on the 4 movements per night time period?

Expressflight 28th Feb 2020 11:53


Originally Posted by asdf1234 (Post 10698123)
Happy to be corrected if my maths is askew. I thought the night time quota was 120 movements and there are currently 4 movements each night (2 arrivals and 2 departures)?

There are now only 3 Amazon movements during the night quota period following an adjustment to the schedules, so one additional aircraft could be accommodated.


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